User:Chase me ladies, I'm the cavalry, Another member of the military moonlights as an admin and makes a fool Options

[thekohser]

And while we are speaking of the Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea -- is this his blog? http://chasemeladies.blogspot.com/

The top post that came up for me:

SHORT THIS STOCK!
Shares in H&H Imports, which sells handbags, rose 122% percent on Friday, then another 290% on Monday, after 50 Cent tipped the stock on Twitter.

Opportunities as good as this don't come along very often. The share has fallen by more than a third since then, but it's obviously going to fall a lot further.

I don't know if this is just the case with E*trade and TD Ameritrade (both of which I use for stock trading), but you can't short a stock that priced so low.

The "blog" almost looks computer-generated. I doubt it's Admiral Chase's.

[carbuncle]

Since Chase Me deleted previous versions of his userpage, I don't know how long the Royal Navy lieutenant version was up, or if it was there before his RfA.

In order to be open and honest, he has since restored the page's history fully. It's my view that he's been a silly prat, but I do think he's been a harmless prat and he will have learned from this. Compared to some of the villains editing Wikipedia, this is a non-story. He's not the only twit on the Arbcom and he's young enough to benefit from the experience. He's had his knuckles well and truly rapped I don't see the point of going for his blood over a foolish action that's actually only harmed him.

Giacomo

"Had his knuckles well and truly rapped"? "Only harmed him"? So there's been a couple of threads on WR about this, but I have yet to see any evidence that Chase Me has learned anything except that he's not good at fooling people. Has this been discussed on WP at all? Has Chase Me corrected the mistaken impression that he fostered? All I have seen from Chase Me are some self-serving excuses and half-truths.

I see restoring the history of his userpage as a step in the right direction, but I am waiting for the follow-through. It may not be much of an issue on WP, but Chase Me understands -- or really should understand -- how seriously the Royal Navy take things like pretending to be an officer when one isn't. From Chase Me's RfA:

It's my personal opinion, and I am aware other females may feel in a different way, but as a female editor, I take his or her user name annoying. I feel sexually harassed, honestly. Unless he or she changes it, I strongly oppose his or her promotion. --Aphaia 12:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way - the name certainly isn't meant to be sexually harassing in any way, and it's concerned me that it may have come across like that. It's meant as a light-hearted play on the idea of a 'dashing cavalry officer' - as I'm an officer myself, I find the stereotype of a 'dashing cavalry officer' to be rather amusing and (sadly) completely untrue, as women certainly don't swoon at the sight of me! If it would make you feel less threatened, I'll happily change it to 'Chase me, I'm the Cavalry', if you think that'd be better. I'll wait until after this RFA is over to complete the Changing Username process, in order to keep everything neat and tidy. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 14:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not out for blood, but I would like to see Chase Me take some responsibility and own up to his actions.

[Doc glasgow]

I see restoring the history of his userpage as a step in the right direction, but I am waiting for the follow-through. It may not be much of an issue on WP, but Chase Me understands -- or really should understand -- how seriously the Royal Navy take things like pretending to be an officer when one isn't.

Get a grip. You really think Her Majesty's Navy give a shit if a reservist goes on a social working website and calls himself an "officer"?

Carbuncle, you are beginning to look like a ridiculous troll. Having failed to spin a wikipedia crisis out of your obsession with this, you are now trying to turn this into "some serious business" for the individual you are pursuing.

Newsflash: There is no follow-through.

This thread will die when people realised that they are (pardon the pun) flogging a dead horse, and that, as they say, will be that.

Now, to use the proverbial put-down, haven't you got something more important to do?

[radek]

And while we are speaking of the Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea -- is this his blog? http://chasemeladies.blogspot.com/

Obviously, not.

When I first heard of him, and his nick I wondered if there might be a connection and was ready to sock puppet or do whatever it took to get him on ArbCom cuz that's one funny blog, that I used to read a lot more like 6 years ago (don't know if it's still funny). But alas, it ain't him. It's a common pun I believe.

[Heat]

I don't think Chase has done anything ro merit deadminning but I think if this had come out during the election he would have lost. The other thing is he acts generally in a pompous, arrogant way which some may have been willing to tolerate from an "officer" but not from some kid. I just think he's too immature to be on Arbcomm and that his displays of very bad jufgment underscore that.

[Kelly Martin]

I just think he's too immature to be on Arbcomm

How is that possible? It's fairly obvious that maturity is neither expected of, nor particularly desirable in, an arbcommer.

[SB_Johnny]

I expected content related mattes in this thread instead of just personal life bashing, but I see none.

Welcome to WR.

The whole deleting revisions of his userpage seems to me just a panic reaction. Apparently he didn't get the memo about not letting the bastards carbonate his rum?

I wonder if the BBC has seen this thread.

[Heat]

The guy is a self-important berk. He used to inflate his ego by pretending to be an officer, now he does it by boasting about being on ArbComm, all "top end" and hush-hush don't ya know. Only goes to show you that the last people who should be on ArbComm are those who want to be on it.

This post has been edited by Heat: Wed 19th January 2011, 10:38pm

[SB_Johnny]

The guy is a self-important berk. He used to inflate his ego by pretending to be an officer, now he does it by boasting about being on ArbComm, all "top end" and hush-hush don't ya know.

And as a bonus, ArbCom has much sexier uniforms. Look out ladies!

Only goes to show you that the last people who should be on ArbComm are those who want to be on it.

Yeah, arbcommies shouldn't be in control of nuclear submarines.

Oh, wait...

[carbuncle]

I see restoring the history of his userpage as a step in the right direction, but I am waiting for the follow-through. It may not be much of an issue on WP, but Chase Me understands -- or really should understand -- how seriously the Royal Navy take things like pretending to be an officer when one isn't.

Get a grip. You really think Her Majesty's Navy give a shit if a reservist goes on a social working website and calls himself an "officer"?

Actually, yes, that is exactly what I think.

Carbuncle, you are beginning to look like a ridiculous troll. Having failed to spin a wikipedia crisis out of your obsession with this, you are now trying to turn this into "some serious business" for the individual you are pursuing.

Newsflash: There is no follow-through.

This thread will die when people realised that they are (pardon the pun) flogging a dead horse, and that, as they say, will be that.

Now, to use the proverbial put-down, haven't you got something more important to do?

Doc, you and I disagree on the off-wiki seriousness of this, but that is outside of this discussion and only matters to Chase Me, anyway. I think you have enough experience with to know that I'm not a troll. If you think I'm trying to spin this into a WP crisis, why haven't I posted anything on WP? (I might, actually, since Chase Me is open to recall, but I will wait to see what actions he takes on his own.) I have no "obsession with this - my efforts have been to replace the speculation, prevaricating, and misconceptions with facts.

Chase Me's charade is hardly a capital crime, but it, his attempted cover-up, and his further half-truths in that message to theKohser all show a terrible lack of judgment. Is this really someone who should be one of the handful of admins who rule on the ethical failings of others? I really do not understand why you are so willing to accept the sorry state of ArbCom. Is it asking so much to expect that Chase Me owns up to his actions and asks the community if they were influenced by his assertion that he was an officer in the Royal Navy?

[Doc glasgow]

I think there should be much more important criteria for choosing or removing arbs than, did you once put some exaggerations on your userpage, and then think better of it?

Seriously, you've got nothing and none but the small-minder should care.

This post has been edited by Doc glasgow: Thu 20th January 2011, 12:03am

[RMHED]

I think there should be much more important criteria for choosing or removing arbs than, did you once put some exaggerations on your userpage, and then think better of it?

Seriously, you've got nothing and none but the small-minder should care.

I agree. I think Mr. Symonds has been naive, but that is hardly a serious matter.

[dogbiscuit]

I think the main point is that this shows that Chase Me, like many others, quite simply is not coping very well in the real world and is using success on Wikipedia as a substitute.

If he spent a few days away from Wikipedia he could paint up his flat and make it more comfortable - no more sneaky face-palm panning from the BBC cameras after that.

Officer? One of my daughters passed the officer's entrance exam for the Navy at 18, having been in the Sea Scouts for a few years, but decided to go to university first. It's not an exclusive club of the gentry, it just requires common sense.

It seems Mr Chase Me has some esteem issues which, as with so many admin types, Wikipedia seems to fulfil in a virtual world. However, the trouble with resolving your esteem issues in Wikipedia is that in the real world, you can't cash in (and I think we established before that a surprising number of Wikipedia editors don't admit to their involvement, and certainly not to the amount of time - why is that?).

So Chase Me has climbed the greasy pole to ArbCom. He has felt the need to enhance his image on Wikipedia - presumably embarrassed about his lack of success in the real world. When found out, he is embarrassed enough to want to cover up - and in true FT2 style has not only removed information but sought to hide that he removed it - nice to know that ArbCom continues to be populated by people who don't like the rules to apply to themselves.

I'd suggest to Chase Me that he looks at what he has really got out of Wikipedia - a bad back, stress, and a wasted life. If he put that amount of effort in in the real world he could have been doing something useful. If you start of stacking shelves at Tesco, put the amount of effort in that you've put into Wikipedia, you'd easily be senior and getting a sense of getting somewhere in life.

[RMHED]

It seems Mr Chase Me has some esteem issues which, as with so many admin types, Wikipedia seems to fulfil in a virtual world. However, the trouble with resolving your esteem issues in Wikipedia is that in the real world, you can't cash in (and I think we established before that a surprising number of Wikipedia editors don't admit to their involvement, and certainly not to the amount of time - why is that?).

If he really had esteem issues why would he give an interview to the BBC and admit he was unemployed and spending 8 hours a day working on Jimmy's pension fund'Opedia?

[lilburne]

It seems Mr Chase Me has some esteem issues which, as with so many admin types, Wikipedia seems to fulfil in a virtual world. However, the trouble with resolving your esteem issues in Wikipedia is that in the real world, you can't cash in (and I think we established before that a surprising number of Wikipedia editors don't admit to their involvement, and certainly not to the amount of time - why is that?).

If he really had esteem issues why would he give an interview to the BBC and admit he was unemployed and spending 8 hours a day working on Jimmy's pension fund'Opedia?

But armchair psychologists need an outlet too.

[RMHED]

It seems Mr Chase Me has some esteem issues which, as with so many admin types, Wikipedia seems to fulfil in a virtual world. However, the trouble with resolving your esteem issues in Wikipedia is that in the real world, you can't cash in (and I think we established before that a surprising number of Wikipedia editors don't admit to their involvement, and certainly not to the amount of time - why is that?).

If he really had esteem issues why would he give an interview to the BBC and admit he was unemployed and spending 8 hours a day working on Jimmy's pension fund'Opedia?

But armchair psychologists need an outlet too.

I am the Magnificent Masturbator!

Now where's me pouffe.

[carbuncle]

I think there should be much more important criteria for choosing or removing arbs than, did you once put some exaggerations on your userpage, and then think better of it?

Seriously, you've got nothing and none but the small-minder should care.

I agree that there are better reasons, but it is ridiculous that the WMF does not even do the most basic vetting of people's claimed qualifications when they put themselves up for election to ArbCom. I don't think this is another Essjay, but it shows that nothing has changed or been learned from that experience.

I haven't changed my opinion, but I'm not going to pursue it. Chase Me has enough to worry about already. I hope his recent media exposure helps him to land a decent job.

[RMHED]

I think there should be much more important criteria for choosing or removing arbs than, did you once put some exaggerations on your userpage, and then think better of it?

Seriously, you've got nothing and none but the small-minder should care.

I agree that there are better reasons, but it is ridiculous that the WMF does not even do the most basic vetting of people's claimed qualifications when they put themselves up for election to ArbCom. I don't think this is another Essjay, but it shows that nothing has changed or been learned from that experience.

Yeah right on!

Because 'da Arbcom are so important and powerful unlike the feeble WMF, now who vets those fuckers?

[EricBarbour]

I just think he's too immature to be on Arbcomm

How is that possible? It's fairly obvious that maturity is neither expected of, nor particularly desirable in, an arbcommer.

Yes. Depressing, but accurate.

As for his claim of being in the Royal Navy as an "officer":
First, read this.
Then: Here's the Arbcom election page. Note:

Finally, I think in addition to being a part of OTRS (which has its own internal mailing queue), let alone the hundreds of emails we answer, being the mailing list administrator for my branch of the Royal Navy, encompassing between 500 and 1,000 people worldwide, gives me a wealth of experience in co-ordinating internal email traffic!
# Stress: How will you be able to cope with the stress of being an arbitrator, potentially including on- and off-wiki threats and abuse, and attempts to embarrass you by the public "outing" of personal information?
A: I've already been outed and dealt with off-wiki threats and abuse through my OTRS and admin work. Both WR and Encyclopeadia Dramatica have discovered my 'real identity', which hasn't led to too many ill effects. I have had people ring up my employer and try to glean information from them (to no avail, I might add). When dealing with 'internet threats', I know that the real winner is the person who keeps his cool - and when dealing with real life threats, I'm in the armed forces, so I've had the training to deal with that rationally and appropriately.

Here's his RFA, Nov 2007.

10. I like your username. You mentioned past accounts. [3] Did you switch for branding, or was there some other reason, or no reason at all? - Jehochman Talk 21:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
A: Thankyou! To everyone who has commented on it - good and bad! My old username is my hotmail address, plus my username on practically everything else - myspace and the like. I didn't want the two worlds to collide, for privacy reasons and reasons of possible vandalism! There was no specific reason for the new one, but I felt a new name was required. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk • contribs) 23:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Lots of admins talk like that.
But very damn few of them purposely lead people to think they are military officers:

# Strong Support and don't listen to the people complaining about your name, as I rather like it. Incidentally, as a member of the Officers Training Corps myself, I have the highest respect and appreciation for the British Armed Forces and everything you're doing to keep this great country safe. Plus, you're a well-regarded editor who will make a good admin, as per everyone's comments above. WaltonOne 17:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Nobody's complaining (hence the smileys). I think the candidate knows me well enough to know that, too Hence this comment last August - Alison ❤ 19:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Oppose It's my personal opinion, and I am aware other females may feel in a different way, but as a female editor, I take his or her user name annoying. I feel sexually harassed, honestly. Unless he or she changes it, I strongly oppose his or her promotion. --Aphaia 12:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel that way - the name certainly isn't meant to be sexually harassing in any way, and it's concerned me that it may have come across like that. It's meant as a light-hearted play on the idea of a 'dashing cavalry officer' - as I'm an officer myself, I find the stereotype of a 'dashing cavalry officer' to be rather amusing and (sadly) completely untrue, as women certainly don't swoon at the sight of me! If it would make you feel less threatened, I'll happily change it to 'Chase me, I'm the Cavalry', if you think that'd be better. I'll wait until after this RFA is over to complete the Changing Username process, in order to keep everything neat and tidy. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 14:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Did anyone examine the Feb 2010 SPA in which he was accused of socking with the Panyd account?

Chase Me claims to be in the British Royal Navy; Panyd claims to be a college student in America. A checkuser should quickly make it very, very clear whether or not they are one and the same person. Keepscases (talk) 23:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

More of that in Panyd's RFA.

I don't know, but I've seen plenty of behavior on Wikipedia that I can't explain. Their story just doesn't seem to stay straight. Chase Me first said he mentored her "by phone and email", but then a more recent comment seemed to suggest that they were traveling the world together or something. If she's at Sarah Lawrence, and he's in the Royal Navy, there should be plenty of days during which they were editing thousands of miles away from each other. If that's shown to be the case, I'd be satisfied. Keepscases (talk) 23:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Also note, as of March 2006, he claimed to have edited under other account names for "well over a year".

You be the judges.

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Thu 20th January 2011, 2:26am

[RMHED]

I just think he's too immature to be on Arbcomm

How is that possible? It's fairly obvious that maturity is neither expected of, nor particularly desirable in, an arbcommer.

Yes. Depressing, but accurate.

As for his claim of being in the Royal Navy as an "officer":
First, read this.
Then: Here's the Arbcom election page. Note:

Finally, I think in addition to being a part of OTRS (which has its own internal mailing queue), let alone the hundreds of emails we answer, being the mailing list administrator for my branch of the Royal Navy, encompassing between 500 and 1,000 people worldwide, gives me a wealth of experience in co-ordinating internal email traffic!
# Stress: How will you be able to cope with the stress of being an arbitrator, potentially including on- and off-wiki threats and abuse, and attempts to embarrass you by the public "outing" of personal information?
A: I've already been outed and dealt with off-wiki threats and abuse through my OTRS and admin work. Both WR and Encyclopeadia Dramatica have discovered my 'real identity', which hasn't led to too many ill effects. I have had people ring up my employer and try to glean information from them (to no avail, I might add). When dealing with 'internet threats', I know that the real winner is the person who keeps his cool - and when dealing with real life threats, I'm in the armed forces, so I've had the training to deal with that rationally and appropriately.

Here's his RFA, Nov 2007.

10. I like your username. You mentioned past accounts. [3] Did you switch for branding, or was there some other reason, or no reason at all? - Jehochman Talk 21:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
A: Thankyou! To everyone who has commented on it - good and bad! My old username is my hotmail address, plus my username on practically everything else - myspace and the like. I didn't want the two worlds to collide, for privacy reasons and reasons of possible vandalism! There was no specific reason for the new one, but I felt a new name was required. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk • contribs) 23:09, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Lots of admins talk like that.
But very damn few of them purposely lead people to think they are military officers:

# Strong Support and don't listen to the people complaining about your name, as I rather like it. Incidentally, as a member of the Officers Training Corps myself, I have the highest respect and appreciation for the British Armed Forces and everything you're doing to keep this great country safe. Plus, you're a well-regarded editor who will make a good admin, as per everyone's comments above. WaltonOne 17:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Nobody's complaining (hence the smileys). I think the candidate knows me well enough to know that, too Hence this comment last August - Alison ❤ 19:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Oppose It's my personal opinion, and I am aware other females may feel in a different way, but as a female editor, I take his or her user name annoying. I feel sexually harassed, honestly. Unless he or she changes it, I strongly oppose his or her promotion. --Aphaia 12:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry you feel that way - the name certainly isn't meant to be sexually harassing in any way, and it's concerned me that it may have come across like that. It's meant as a light-hearted play on the idea of a 'dashing cavalry officer' - as I'm an officer myself, I find the stereotype of a 'dashing cavalry officer' to be rather amusing and (sadly) completely untrue, as women certainly don't swoon at the sight of me! If it would make you feel less threatened, I'll happily change it to 'Chase me, I'm the Cavalry', if you think that'd be better. I'll wait until after this RFA is over to complete the Changing Username process, in order to keep everything neat and tidy. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 14:02, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Did anyone examine the Feb 2010 SPA in which he was accused of socking with the Panyd account?

Chase Me claims to be in the British Royal Navy; Panyd claims to be a college student in America. A checkuser should quickly make it very, very clear whether or not they are one and the same person. Keepscases (talk) 23:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

More of that in Panyd's RFA.

I don't know, but I've seen plenty of behavior on Wikipedia that I can't explain. Their story just doesn't seem to stay straight. Chase Me first said he mentored her "by phone and email", but then a more recent comment seemed to suggest that they were traveling the world together or something. If she's at Sarah Lawrence, and he's in the Royal Navy, there should be plenty of days during which they were editing thousands of miles away from each other. If that's shown to be the case, I'd be satisfied. Keepscases (talk) 23:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Also note, as of March 2006, he claimed to have edited under other account names for "well over a year".

You be the judges.

You're looking like a stalker Eric.

Who really cares if he lied on his RfA, it's par for the course on Wikipedia.