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Piperdown	Post #21
Fat Cat Group: Regulars Posts: 1,613 Joined: Member No.: 2,995	most peculiar, Jimbo, most peculiar. # 03:14, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) m User talk:Jayjgâ€Ž (remove) # 03:14, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Congregation Beth Elohimâ€Ž (more detail) (top) # 03:14, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Jewish Actionâ€Ž (Orphan no longer) (top) # 03:14, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Brit milahâ€Ž (â†’Metzizah b'peh - dab, fmt) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Jonathan Rosenblumâ€Ž (â†’Career - cleanup, remove various unsourced BLP concerns) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Mayer Twerskyâ€Ž (fix links to internal articles) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Å½irmÅ«naiâ€Ž (â†’20th century) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Partnership minyanâ€Ž (â†’External links - fix links) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Role of women in Judaismâ€Ž (â†’External links - fix refs, remove youtube) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Benjamin Yudinâ€Ž (â†’References: - dab) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Brit milahâ€Ž (â†’Metzitzah (metzizah bi peh) - dab) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Wimpelâ€Ž (dab, fmt) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Mamzerâ€Ž (â†’Laws of Mamzerim - dab) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Jewish feminismâ€Ž (â†’Further reading - dabs, cleanup) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Leo Jungâ€Ž (â†’Bibliography - dab) (top) # 03:13, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) Jewish reactions to intelligent designâ€Ž (â†’The anthropic principle - dabs) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Canadian Paulâ€Ž (â†’Locked article - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Phyesalisâ€Ž (â†’FGC article - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Amcajaâ€Ž (â†’Privacy concerns - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Wkerneyâ€Ž (â†’Drive by reversions - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Jrefereeâ€Ž (â†’Pyroterrorism article - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Shalomâ€Ž (â†’Your apology - new section) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Threeafterthreeâ€Ž (â†’Your note - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Emmanuelmâ€Ž (â†’Thanks for your note - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Hu12â€Ž (â†’Italiavivi RFC - new section) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:John Zâ€Ž (â†’Your thoughtful note - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Nandesukaâ€Ž (â†’COI at Pubic hair article - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Mirandaâ€Ž (â†’Your thoughtful words - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Ghirlandajoâ€Ž (â†’Your kind note - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Balloonmanâ€Ž (â†’Belated thanks - new section) (top) # 03:12, 13 December 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Ovadyahâ€Ž (â†’Sorry for the delay - new section) (top) # 00:07, 4 August 2007 (hist) (diff) m Nizkor Projectâ€Ž (Reverted edits by Anima Vera (talk) to last version by DeadEyeArrow) Born-again Wikivirgin Edit: Sorry for the delay in responding, I've been busy elsewhere. Do you still need assistance at the Ebionites article? 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LamontStormstar	Post #22
Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,360 Joined: Member No.: 342	Jayjg's comeback edits indicate that he pre-wrote them, saved them as text, and then submitted them all at once.

Disillusioned Lackey	Post #23
Unregistered	That's a hell of a lot of was-formerly-constipated personal expression backup to release at one time to the planet earth. Wow.

Saltimbanco	Post #24
Who watches the watchmen? Group: Regulars Posts: 590 Joined: Member No.: 228	It doesn't look like there is much to his encyclopedia edits; I would even go so far as to say that they are not POV-pushing. The few I looked at are mostly correcting links. Still, having removed the "wikibreak" tag from his talk page, it may be that the arch-propagandist is back. I had taken his departure as a sign that his handlers had decided that no one took Wikipedia seriously anymore, so there was no further need to manipulate it. It may be that Jayjg's "return" is only to serve the purpose of laying out some data according to which that interpretation might be denied. I'd kind of like to see Jayjg back at it full time, partly because his interference with Wikipedia has been mostly defensive in nature, and as long as he's occupied with it he won't be doing even more wicked things. And partly because I'm pretty sure that it makes him miserable! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

jorge	Post #25
Postmaster Group: On Vacation Posts: 1,910 Joined: Member No.: 29	QUOTE(Saltimbanco @ Thu 13th December 2007, 3:51pm) Still, having removed the "wikibreak" tag from his talk page, it may be that the arch-propagandist is back. I had taken his departure as a sign that his handlers had decided that no one took Wikipedia seriously anymore.. The Israeli Foreign Ministry take it very seriously....

Somey	Post #26
Can't actually moderate (or even post) Group: Moderators Posts: 11,816 Joined: From: Dreamland Member No.: 275	I meant to point this out, actually - thanks for reminding me, Jorge: QUOTE Explaining the rationale for bringing Shankbone to Israel, David Saranga, the spokesman at the consulate in New York, said: "More than once we have faced editors connected to Israel that appear on Wikipedia in English that do not represent the reality in Israel. We decided to initiate a visit by Shankbone to describe Israeli reality as it is." "We have faced editors"? I don't see how they could have "faced editors" in any venue but Wikipedia itself... right? So who is "we," exactly? I have nothing against people representing various governments editing WP as a general rule, but that's not to say it wouldn't be interesting to know who they are, and what exactly they're doing.

Saltimbanco	Post #27
Who watches the watchmen? Group: Regulars Posts: 590 Joined: Member No.: 228	QUOTE(jorge @ Thu 13th December 2007, 12:38pm) The Israeli Foreign Ministry take it very seriously.... Eh, public announcements are more about the publicity they generate than about anything real going on in the world. Probably this is a phony "Oh gosh we just realized people are getting information from Wikipedia and there is no control over it!" moment. Heck, the Israel promoters have made their way into "The Complete Idiot's Guide" series; it defies credulity to believe they've just discovered Wikipedia.

guy	Post #28
Postmaster General Group: Inactive Posts: 4,294 Joined: From: London Member No.: 23	QUOTE(Saltimbanco @ Thu 13th December 2007, 7:09pm) it defies credulity to believe they've just discovered Wikipedia. Lots of things about Wikipedia defy credulity.

tarantino	Post #29
the Dude abides Group: Regulars Posts: 1,441 Joined: Member No.: 2,143	Jayjg continues his strange editing pattern, perhaps as a distraction to pattern watchers. 13 December 2007 31 edits 03:12 to 03:14 14 December 2007 18 edits 03:15 to 03:16 17 December 2007 12 edits 03:17

anthony	Post #30
Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,034 Joined: Member No.: 2,132	QUOTE(tarantino @ Mon 17th December 2007, 9:51pm) Jayjg continues his strange editing pattern, perhaps as a distraction to pattern watchers. 13 December 2007 31 edits 03:12 to 03:14 14 December 2007 18 edits 03:15 to 03:16 17 December 2007 12 edits 03:17 Really weird stuff. I can't think of a rational explanation for it other than to mess with us.

tarantino	Post #31
the Dude abides Group: Regulars Posts: 1,441 Joined: Member No.: 2,143	QUOTE(anthony @ Mon 17th December 2007, 10:44pm) QUOTE(tarantino @ Mon 17th December 2007, 9:51pm) Jayjg continues his strange editing pattern, perhaps as a distraction to pattern watchers. 13 December 2007 31 edits 03:12 to 03:14 14 December 2007 18 edits 03:15 to 03:16 17 December 2007 12 edits 03:17 Really weird stuff. I can't think of a rational explanation for it other than to mess with us. When good-naturedly questioned about his bot-like edits, Jjayg responds with a quote from Roy Batty, the leader of the Nexus Six androids in the Blade Runner screenplay. "Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shores... burning with the fires of Orc." I wonder if his account will expire after four years? So much could be read in to his choice of words, but I suspect he's just trying to appear deep and yes, mess with us.

Moulton	Post #32
Anthropologist from Mars Group: Contributors Posts: 10,222 Joined: From: Greater Boston Member No.: 3,670	It's standard psy-ops in a fantasy role-playing war game. Which, evidently, is what WP has morphed into.

Piperdown	Post #33
Fat Cat Group: Regulars Posts: 1,613 Joined: Member No.: 2,995	QUOTE(tarantino @ Tue 18th December 2007, 3:43am) When good-naturedly questioned about his bot-like edits, Jjayg responds with a quote from Roy Batty, the leader of the Nexus Six androids in the Blade Runner screenplay. "Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shores... burning with the fires of Orc." I wonder if his account will expire after four years? So much could be read in to his choice of words, but I suspect he's just trying to appear deep and yes, mess with us. that's about right. Jajyg should, like Batty, have his account recalled. He ran amok and WP:PHILIPDICK policy calls for accountability.

LamontStormstar	Post #34
Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,360 Joined: Member No.: 342	When Jayjg was gone, some of his allies got banned. Jayjg, despite all his power and influence over wikipedia and Jimbo, hasn't done a thing to get them unbanned. One guy was this guy who was making all the middle-eastern articles biased like jayjg wanted them. The other was always attacking jayjg's enemies. Both had weird middle-eastern usernames I can't remember at all.

Moulton	Post #35
Anthropologist from Mars Group: Contributors Posts: 10,222 Joined: From: Greater Boston Member No.: 3,670	Noah's offspring never did get along, did they?

jorge	Post #36
Postmaster Group: On Vacation Posts: 1,910 Joined: Member No.: 29	It suggests he has has a sockpuppet account and fears that comparison of edits with that account will reveal it as his sock, thus he taking these defensive measures in pre writing edits copying them into notepad and then posting them on WP en mass.

dogbiscuit	Post #37
Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more? Group: Members Posts: 2,972 Joined: From: The Midlands Member No.: 4,015	QUOTE(jorge @ Tue 18th December 2007, 7:48pm) It suggests he has has a sockpuppet account and fears that comparison of edits with that account will reveal it as his sock, thus he taking these defensive measures in pre writing edits copying them into notepad and then posting them on WP en mass. Didn't realise jorge was an anagram of Durova... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

Derktar	Post #38
WR Black Ops Group: Moderators Posts: 1,029 Joined: From: Torrance, California, USA Member No.: 2,381	QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 18th December 2007, 12:19pm) QUOTE(jorge @ Tue 18th December 2007, 7:48pm) It suggests he has has a sockpuppet account and fears that comparison of edits with that account will reveal it as his sock, thus he taking these defensive measures in pre writing edits copying them into notepad and then posting them on WP en mass. Didn't realise jorge was an anagram of Durova... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Well could you think of any other reason why someone would make 31 edits within two minutes? I certainly can't.

Disillusioned Lackey	Post #39
Unregistered	QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 13th December 2007, 11:57am) I meant to point this out, actually - thanks for reminding me, Jorge: QUOTE Explaining the rationale for bringing Shankbone to Israel, David Saranga, the spokesman at the consulate in New York, said: "More than once we have faced editors connected to Israel that appear on Wikipedia in English that do not represent the reality in Israel. We decided to initiate a visit by Shankbone to describe Israeli reality as it is." "We have faced editors"? I don't see how they could have "faced editors" in any venue but Wikipedia itself... right? So who is "we," exactly? What is it to "face" but to challenge. Does this indicate the cabal orientation towards ultra-pro-Israel stance? Curious. (ps. Before I get accused of being anti-Israel, I am not that. I'm Israel pro-to-neutral. But I am anti-anyone-WP:POINT-ing via WP:BULLYing - for anything, Israel or not). This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:

jorge	Post #40
Postmaster Group: On Vacation Posts: 1,910 Joined: Member No.: 29	I'm afraid it is pretty impossible for something that has open editing to be neutral on Palestinian and Israeli issues. As an example of the ridiculous paranoia that some of the Israeli POV pushers have, pictures of Palestinian children were censored from the Palestinian article because they were supposedly trying to "gain sympathy".

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