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Yet another example of the profound idiocy of "crowdsourcing" encyclopedia articles.

You have the WP bio of Hans Bethe, legendary atomic scientist, Nobel winner.
8 notes, 3 references, total length 27034 bytes.

And you have the WP bio of a fictional scientist on a sitcom, Sheldon Cooper of The Big Bang Theory.
75 references, total length 43670 bytes.

And no doubt, many of the Wiki-assholes reading this will go "that's perfectly acceptable".
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 12th May 2010, 3:54am) *

Yet another example of the profound idiocy of "crowdsourcing" encyclopedia articles.

You have the WP bio of Hans Bethe, legendary atomic scientist, Nobel winner.
8 notes, 3 references, total length 27034 bytes.

And you have the WP bio of a fictional scientist on a sitcom, Sheldon Cooper of The Big Bang Theory.
75 references, total length 43670 bytes.

And no doubt, many of the Wiki-assholes reading this will go "that's perfectly acceptable".


Wait, so you mean that on the internet, people gravitate more to throwaway pop culture than actual science?

What amazing insight, Professor Barbour.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 12th May 2010, 3:32pm) *

Wait, so you mean that on the internet, people gravitate more to throwaway pop culture than actual science?

What amazing insight, Professor Barbour.


What you say about the internet is true. But this is, or is meant to be an internet encyclopedia. You will object that an internet encyclopedia by its nature will gravitate to the pop culture and the throwaway. I reply: that is not what an encyclopedia by its nature should be (whether it is on the internet or not).

There is this great confusion among Wikipediots between 'is' and 'should'. I hear that argument about pop culture all the time. Yes, Wikipedia is this or that. But should it be this or that? That is the question.

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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 12th May 2010, 9:44am) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 12th May 2010, 3:32pm) *

Wait, so you mean that on the internet, people gravitate more to throwaway pop culture than actual science?

What amazing insight, Professor Barbour.


What you say about the internet is true. But this is, or is meant to be an internet encyclopedia. You will object that an internet encyclopedia by its nature will gravitate to the pop culture and the throwaway. I reply: that is not what an encyclopedia by its nature should be (whether it is on the internet or not).

There is this great confusion among Wikipediots between 'is' and 'should'. I hear that argument about pop culture all the time. Yes, Wikipedia is this or that. But should it be this or that? That is the question.

I would question what things that should be can realistically be addressed? The internet is the internet, and there's little that can be done at this time to change that.

I am willing to accept that WP will always be best used as a pop culture reference, and some light information on other items. Why worry about things that can not be changed? Accept what WP is, and use it in that vein, or don't, and avoid it as best you can. When it comes to this particular issue, that's really your two most sane choices.
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Milton Roe   Wait, so you mean that on the internet, people g...  
dogbiscuit   I would question what things that should be can r...  
Sxeptomaniac   [quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='236288' date='We...  
Peter Damian   There are issues on WP that concern me, particul...  
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Peter Damian   The readers would tend to be those more ignorant ...  
everyking   When the culture and environment is inimical to s...  
Sxeptomaniac   [quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='236439' date='Th...  
ulsterman   After all, a big part of being an expert is knowi...  
everyking   After all, a big part of being an expert is know...  
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anthony   Personally, I don't think there's any rea...  
Moulton   Accept what WP is, and use it in that vein, or don...  
Peter Damian   I am willing to accept that WP will always be bes...  
Moulton   And do we have to accept that it can't be chan...  
EricBarbour   Wikipedia's problems are not much different fr...  
Encyclopedist   Wikipedia's problems are not much different f...  
Vigilant   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='236303' date='Wed...  
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CharlotteWebb   When I saw the thread title I expected to read the...  
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gomi   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='236232' date='Wed ...  
everyking   No one would think that's "acceptable...  
taiwopanfob   All right: "Oh, that's no good; that arti...  
Moulton   It's just another demonstration of the thesis ...  
Moulton   If Newton were alive today, he would not be allowe...  
Moulton   There really isn't any good reason for a resea...  
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Maunus   [wparticle]Sheldon Cooper is now 80k bytes, 110 r...  
thekohser   The problem is not that stupidity exists, but tha...  
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Ottava   Sheldon has 275,658 while Hans has only 6,611. Th...  
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