The TimidGuy case, aye, there's the rub Options

[Herschelkrustofsky]

TimidGuy is appealing his ban, which was executed by Jimbo in a GodKingly fashion at the request of Will Beback, who sent Jimbo a private email in which he alleged that TG was a paid advocate for the Transcendental Meditators. This situation raises numerous questions.

1. TG and WB have been going at if for a while as WP:ADVOCATES on opposing sides of the Transcendental Meditation issue. For argument's sake, let's assume that Will's allegations are correct, and TG is a paid advocate for TM. Does that make his editing more disruptive than that of Will, acting as an unpaid advocate against TM? Will's fanaticism on the topic is well known, and that fact that he is presumably doing it without compensation makes him possibly the more disruptive of the two, because he is so consumed with zeal to expose and discredit the meditators (misusing Wikipedia as a soapbox for that purpose), that he does it for free.

2. If Will has in fact acquired private information about TG's pay stubs and what not, is that not WP:WIKIHOUNDING?

3. How does WP:COI come into play when allegations are made based on evidence that is not in the public domain? Doesn't such an allegation axiomatically violate WP:OUTING?

The Arbs are already neck-deep in conundra over this. It should be interesting to see how it plays out. My personal take on it causes me to ask this: why is Will Beback still allowed to be editor, let alone an admin?

[Daniel Brandt]

No one should forget his smiling face. He'll Be Back, somehow, someday. You can change your socks, but not your face.

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[Vigilant]

No one should forget his smiling face. He'll Be Back, somehow, someday. You can change your socks, but not your face.

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What is it with gay people and wikipedia and the whole victim culture?
Outing committee? Really?

Do these gay people on wikipedia have no other subjects in their lives but that they are gay?
The gay people I know are people with rich lives who happen to be gay, not gays who are gay and gay and omg gay and omg homophobia with no other aspects to their lives...

So weird.

[Tarc]

What is it with gay people and wikipedia and the whole victim culture?

Seeing how homosexuality was still technically a criminal offense as recently as 2003 in some US states, feeling like victims isn't such a far-fetched concept. The problem is those that take it way way to far and demand prominence of everything and anything LGBT-related. The gay bathhouse regulars atricle, the small-s santorum bullshit,and the attempts to add a gratuitous sex act description to "Crisco" of all things for example.

[DanMurphy]

Uhm, If I'm reading that thing right, he's deeply involved in the Sierra Club. I think "outing" in that context is a noun, meaning "a camping trip." (Or maybe I'm dumber than usual today).

[Vigilant]

Uhm, If I'm reading that thing right, he's deeply involved in the Sierra Club. I think "outing" in that context is a noun, meaning "a camping trip." (Or maybe I'm dumber than usual today).

Nope. That's me being an idiot. Sorry, folks.

The broader point is still strange to me. Why do the most visible gay people on wikipedia have such a fixation on just how gay they are?

I do get the discrimination angle and I am ashamed that California voted for the spiteful Proposition 8. A true civil rights debacle, stripping away rights from a disfavored class. This piece of shit amendment is headed towards the trash heap of history.

Things are getting better for gays, generally, in this particular decade(no more Don't Ask, Don't tell, gay marriage has much higher acceptance than before and will likely be approved in many states soon, etc)

I don't think it's all that healthy for people to be so fixated on who they have sex with to the exclusion of all else. I'm looking at you, Ashley van Haefton...

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[TungstenCarbide]

The broader point is still strange to me. Why do the most visible gay people on wikipedia have such a fixation on just how gay they are?

I don't think it's strange at all. Gay people still get fired, rejected, beaten up and killed for who they are. If you lived your life under that how do you think it would affect your actions?