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The Joy
post Mon 27th June 2011, 8:00pm
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I posted this in another thread, but that post got lost.

Anything about Poetlister/Quillercouch during:

September 5-15, 2008?

October 24, 2010?
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post Mon 27th June 2011, 8:32pm
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Malice,

Thank you muchly for the dish on Ottava the Odious. Greatly appreciated.
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post Mon 27th June 2011, 9:15pm
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A new question for Malice: is this bounty the result of your hard work, or did someone else pass these goodies to you with the request that you share it on Wikipedia Review?

Oh, and another request: anything to share on the blow-up that resulted in Tanthalas39 leaving Wikipedia? The site is not the same without him. rolleyes.gif

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post Mon 27th June 2011, 10:09pm
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Mon 27th June 2011, 9:00pm) *

I posted this in another thread, but that post got lost.

Anything about Poetlister/Quillercouch during:

September 5-15, 2008?

October 24, 2010?


I second that. This is crucial to understanding the other two threads I have been banging on about. Possibly before that, as FT2 issued a report in August 2008.

The people involved (not all of them Arbcom) were Sam Korn (=Smoddy), James Forrester, Jpgordon, Kirill Lokshin (overview), Sam Blacketer at enwiki arbcom or ex-arbs. Checkusers/crats Thatcher, Jayvdb, Rlevse and WJBscribe.

Checkuser Aphaia. Stewards Spacebirdy to the extent needed to justify a cross wiki checkuser, Lar to the extent needed to endorse that we must handled it privately if it comes up on-wiki, Dungodung to the point of agreement to review, and Cary, Jimmy Wales and Jay Walsh at Office.

Oh yes and Coren http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...4&oldid=1173766 naturally.

Goodness and our friend Lar as well http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...t&oldid=1181370 who mentions the famous email (presumably that one, anyway).

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:I meant to add that I think FT2 has done a fairly reasonable job in not rushing to judgment and presenting the facts in a manner that doesn't pillory anyone, and allows the individual to just go away.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?titl...5&oldid=1168873


Like approaching the HR department of the sockpuppet's firm? Does this just allow the individual to go away? (Cary Bass, unlike Jimbo, did acknowledge seeing the 13 Sep email).


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post Tue 28th June 2011, 4:31am
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QUOTE(Jack Merridew @ Mon 27th June 2011, 8:19am) *

damn; I thought this was going to go in the ask the leaker thread; mebbe someone wil move it --Jack


→ thanks for the move… Jack
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post Tue 28th June 2011, 4:44am
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 27th June 2011, 10:15pm) *

Oh, and another request: anything to share on the blow-up that resulted in Tanthalas39 leaving Wikipedia? The site is not the same without him. rolleyes.gif

Wasn't the Tanthalus39 thing rather straightforward? He got blocked, unblocked himself, then blocked his blocker. There's no way out from that.
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post Tue 28th June 2011, 12:55pm
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 28th June 2011, 12:44am) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 27th June 2011, 10:15pm) *

Oh, and another request: anything to share on the blow-up that resulted in Tanthalas39 leaving Wikipedia? The site is not the same without him. rolleyes.gif

Wasn't the Tanthalus39 thing rather straightforward? He got blocked, unblocked himself, then blocked his blocker. There's no way out from that.


I didn't know if there were any juicy/funny/hostile e-mails from Tan in the Arbcom files. smile.gif
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post Tue 28th June 2011, 2:26pm
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April/May 2008 was the original CAMERA lobbying group campaign. Only a handful of the participants were banned, the rest of the few dozen editors granted amnesty. In 2011 it came to light that some of the original group members were still actively canvassing and pushing pro-Israeli/anti-Arab puff pieces. Any information on the original scandal is most welcome, in particular the names of the editors who escaped banning. Gilead Ini and Dajudem are good search terms.
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post Tue 28th June 2011, 2:43pm
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I doubt it, but if there is anything in there about the following individuals, I'd be interested in seeing:
  • Danny Wool
  • Carolyn Doran
  • Brad Patrick
  • Rand Montoya
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post Tue 28th June 2011, 3:46pm
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How about some more Ottava fun? Any ArbCom-l information regarding the Big O circa June 22, 2010? evilgrin.gif
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post Tue 28th June 2011, 8:20pm
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Anything useful in functionaries-en to avoid CU? Always wondered if CU reveals account creation IP. Some of my socks with 0 edits were catched.

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post Wed 29th June 2011, 1:38am
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QUOTE(Wikipeek @ Tue 28th June 2011, 8:20pm) *

Anything useful in functionaries-en to avoid CU? Always wondered if CU reveals account creation IP. Some of my socks with 0 edits were catched.


It does. Just make an account when on vacation or a friend's computer or just a different browser and operating system, and wait three months before using it at home.

Also, I'd like to see some leaks regarding how they handle pedophiles. One that comes to mind is Thesevenseas - how exactly does ArbCom figure these things out, and how fast does it take for the block?

Edit: Oops, I just saw this was leaked earlier. Anything else on dealing with pedos?

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post Wed 29th June 2011, 1:59am
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QUOTE(melloden @ Wed 29th June 2011, 1:38am) *

QUOTE(Wikipeek @ Tue 28th June 2011, 8:20pm) *

Anything useful in functionaries-en to avoid CU? Always wondered if CU reveals account creation IP. Some of my socks with 0 edits were catched.


It does. Just make an account when on vacation or a friend's computer or just a different browser and operating system, and wait three months before using it at home.

Also, I'd like to see some leaks regarding how they handle pedophiles. One that comes to mind is Thesevenseas - how exactly does ArbCom figure these things out, and how fast does it take for the block?

Edit: Oops, I just saw this was leaked earlier. Anything else on dealing with pedos?


Also, anything about Cirt or Mattisse?
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post Wed 29th June 2011, 3:27am
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Haiduc.


Edit - strike that. I think I will vomit if I read anything about it. I pretty much wanted to vomit over Thesevenseas and I can only assume the worst.

I'm gone again.

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post Wed 29th June 2011, 4:09am
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QUOTE(Wikipeek @ Tue 28th June 2011, 1:20pm) *
Always wondered if CU reveals account creation IP. Some of my socks with 0 edits were catched.

Well-known for ages. The answer is "yes", though the word you are looking for is "caught". Also, CU Wiki retains records on actual or suspected sockpuppets indefinitely, so if you're a sock, never re-use an IP. If someone else re-uses the IP and tickles a checkuser's interest, they are likely to be banned, regardless of guilt. I've now collected a list of at least 20 "sockpuppets" that I had nothing to do with. Wikipedia doesn't care, they want to be seen as fighting the enemies of the Wiki.
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post Wed 29th June 2011, 4:10am
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There are aspect to Casliber's resignation and John Vandenberg's
resignation that were not made public. There were aspects to Kirill's
resignation last year, and also Coren's resignation, that were not
made public.


If these "aspects" are along the lines of BlackmailedArb's, say no more. If, on the other hand, there is a pattern of the Committee whitewashing the incompetence or misconduct of fellow arbs, that is by far the information I'm most interested in seeing leaked.
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QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 28th June 2011, 9:38pm) *

Edit: Oops, I just saw this was leaked earlier. Anything else on dealing with pedos?

...offer them jobs at WMF? hmmm.gif
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post Wed 29th June 2011, 5:01am
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QUOTE(SpiderAndWeb @ Wed 29th June 2011, 4:10am) *

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There are aspect to Casliber's resignation and John Vandenberg's
resignation that were not made public. There were aspects to Kirill's
resignation last year, and also Coren's resignation, that were not
made public.


If these "aspects" are along the lines of BlackmailedArb's, say no more. If, on the other hand, there is a pattern of the Committee whitewashing the incompetence or misconduct of fellow arbs, that is by far the information I'm most interested in seeing leaked.


Not sure if these were already leaked, but can someone either point me to the relevant leak thread or give me a tl;dr summary on this?
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post Wed 29th June 2011, 7:15am
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I would be interested in seeing anything involving David Shankbone...
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post Wed 29th June 2011, 7:17am
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 29th June 2011, 3:15am) *

I would be interested in seeing anything involving David Shankbone...


As long as it's not visual. sick.gif sick.gif sick.gif
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