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Subtle Bee
post Sat 22nd May 2010, 1:41am
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Quick update: the Pakistani government has banned FaceBook over the "Draw Mohammed" dust-up, by court order.
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In compliance with the orders of Honourable Lahore High Court, Lahore, on the Writ Petition No.10392/10, dated the 19th May, 2010, the Ministry of Information Technology has issued a directive to Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) to block the ‘Face Book’ and all other internet links displaying sacrilegious caricatures of the Holy Prophet.

Ministry of IT has also directed the PTA to remain alert and watchful and block all such links displaying the profane caricatures immediately.

Ministry of IT has requested public at large to contact a dedicated Telephone No.0800-5505 and e-mail address: complaint@pta.gov.pk , to transmit necessary information, should anything to the effect of objectionable caricature get displayed/propagated at any website.

"Pakistan Makes Information Technology Breakthrough: phone-operated internet "ignore" list a world's first!" - you'd swear it was from the Onion.

So how come they can do that for Muhammed (PBUH), but we can't get one of those for Wikimedia Commons? hmmm.gif
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post Sat 22nd May 2010, 3:57am
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Fri 21st May 2010, 9:41pm) *

So how come they can do that for Muhammed (PBUH), but we can't get one of those for Wikimedia Commons? hmmm.gif


Because the countries most of us live in aren't as repressive as that one?
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post Sat 22nd May 2010, 4:05am
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 21st May 2010, 8:57pm) *

QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Fri 21st May 2010, 9:41pm) *

So how come they can do that for Muhammed (PBUH), but we can't get one of those for Wikimedia Commons? hmmm.gif


Because the countries most of us live in aren't as repressive as that one?
Dan, sometimes I think you may be suffering from irony-poor blood.
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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 4:19pm
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Who's next? The Wikimedia Foundation headquarters?
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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 5:20pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 4:19pm) *

Who's next? The Wikimedia Foundation headquarters?

No worries they will not touch The Wikimedia Foundation headquarters, at least not while administrator rama is tagging the Holocaust related images with {{di-replaceable fair use}} and not while administrator Gatoclass states something like that:
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Thirdly, even if one took seriously the evidence presented by the Russians at Nuremberg that the Danzig Anatomic Institute conducted such experiments, AFAIK no evidence has ever been presented that the raw materials came specifically from the fat of Jews being slaughtered in Nazi extermination camps.

and not while wikipedia will host such antisemitic garbage

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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 6:07pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 4:19pm) *

Who's next? The Wikimedia Foundation headquarters?


The lengths these backwards knuckle-draggers will go to enforce their warped fundamentalism is nauseating. There's nbeen a slow-burning shitstorm at the Muhammed article regarding images over the last few weeks, too.

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and not while wikipedia will host such antisemitic garbage


Whether it is antisemitic or not (I find it to be more of a criticism of Dershowitz for being a hypocritical asshole rather than for being a Jew) is largely irrelevant. Just because the Wikipedia hosts an antisemitic poster doesn't mean that their are abetting or perpetuating the antisemitism.

They have the Jyllands-Posten poster too. Do you decry the Wikipedia for hosting "anti-Muslim garbage" ?
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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 6:23pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 6:07pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 4:19pm) *

Who's next? The Wikimedia Foundation headquarters?


The lengths these backwards knuckle-draggers will go to enforce their warped fundamentalism is nauseating. There's nbeen a slow-burning shitstorm at the Muhammed article regarding images over the last few weeks, too.

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and not while wikipedia will host such antisemitic garbage


Whether it is antisemitic or not (I find it to be more of a criticism of Dershowitz for being a hypocritical asshole rather than for being a Jew) is largely irrelevant. Just because the Wikipedia hosts an antisemitic poster doesn't mean that their are abetting or perpetuating the antisemitism.

They have the Jyllands-Posten poster too. Do you decry the Wikipedia for hosting "anti-Muslim garbage" ?


I do not believe that because the Wikipedia hosts an antisemitic poster it means that they are abetting or perpetuating the antisemitism. Not at all, but antisemitic pictures should be added to the right category:Category:Antisemitic pictures , which this is not, and it makes all the difference.

On the other hand this poster is added to the category "Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy" with the key word here being "controversy", but honestly I do not believe wikipedia should host any images concerning Muhammed at all. If it is so important for Muslims not to have the images of their Prophet, if it is prohibited by their believes why to make people suffer?

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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 6:31pm
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 6:07pm) *


QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 1:20pm) *
and not while wikipedia will host such antisemitic garbage


Whether it is antisemitic or not (I find it to be more of a criticism of Dershowitz for being a hypocritical asshole rather than for being a Jew) is largely irrelevant.
It's not antisemitic. Stupid, but not antisemitic. And by "stupid," I mean unfunny, not that Dershowitz shouldn't be attacked for being a hypocritical asshole.
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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 9:22pm
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I live in America. More than 99% of the users of this site and en.WP are from the the English speaking world and Europe. Muslims are a small and hard pressed minority in our society. They are easy to pick on and vilify. Almost no one will speak up if you do. I'm speaking up for my neighbors and countrymen who are Muslims.


I will speak up for Muslims, and for Arabs and for everybody who is discriminated against. I would have gladly gone to Iran or Syria to help people there to overcome murderous dictators, and
as I said above I do not believe there should be any images of the Prophet at all, if it hurts the feelings of Muslims, but I'd also say that Muslims should realize that the biggest enemies of Muslims are... well, Muslims themselves.

Muslims are murdering Muslims in schools, in mosques, at markets, in buses over and over and over again. People so used to this that they believe it is a norm, when a car bomb or a few are exploded in Iraq, or a suicide bomber strikes at a mosque in Pakistan. Why Muslim Egyptians are murdering Coptic Egyptians? They all are Arabs, a proud, ancient people with a great history, living in a beautiful country. Why they cannot live in peace with each others? If one day, they'll be able to do it, they will be able to live in peace with the rest of the world.
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post Wed 2nd November 2011, 9:44pm
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 2nd November 2011, 5:22pm) *

Muslims should realize that the biggest enemies of Muslims are... well, Muslims themselves.

Pretty much the only enemy of human beings worth mentioning is human beings themselves.

(Of course there are plenty of virus and bacteria that make for perfectly good enemies, but for some reason our collective priorities tend to somehow rank bombs over antibiotics).
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