Oversight by HU12 for Durova Barnstars, They really do want them, and she still really *is *popular Options

Is this what it has come to? Please

I want to hand a barnstar to everyone who played a significant role in this major undertaking. Excellent work! Please list the usernames of people who deserve that thanks. DurovaCharge! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Kohs first commented on the lack of responses at 8 Dec UMT. So did JCache, and me (who made cricket noises). Suddenly there was a pre-dated post from HU12, giving names for candidates for the barnstar.

Off hand, Jeffpw and Save_Us did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, MER-C A. B. Mr.Z-man.. "mee toos", im sure are welcome. --Hu12 (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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It really has come down to such small things for them (or her).

I'm convinced HU12 is either Durova or Virgin Griffiths, who she was doing some joint wikiscanner (or perhaps other counter-cyber-whatever) work with.

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Is this what it has come to? Please

I want to hand a barnstar to everyone who played a significant role in this major undertaking. Excellent work! Please list the usernames of people who deserve that thanks. DurovaCharge! 22:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Kohs first commented on the lack of responses at 8 Dec UMT. So did JCache, and me (who made cricket noises). Suddenly there was a pre-dated post from HU12, giving names for candidates for the barnstar.

Off hand, Jeffpw and Save_Us did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, MER-C A. B. Mr.Z-man.. "mee toos", im sure are welcome. --Hu12 (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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It really has come down to such small things for them (or her).

I'm convinced HU12 is either Durova or Virgin Griffiths, who she was doing some joint wikiscanner (or perhaps other counter-cyber-whatever) work with.

Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?


Sorry, that is FT2 !!! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

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Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?

Then its either Virgil Griffiths, or Durova trying to toss her scent off the account. Or, maybe they share it.

Normally, Durova wouldn't take a person who likes to edit sex stuff on as a protogee. She usually wants to kill these people.

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Is Hu12 the one that started out editing nothing but sex stuff? That was pointed out to me just recently. I thought maybe that would have been a sock of some sexy girl; maybe someone that worked with Jimmy Wales at his former site?

Then its either Virgil Griffiths, or Durova trying to toss her scent off the account. Or, maybe they share it.

Normally, Durova wouldn't take a person who likes to edit sex stuff on as a protogee. She usually wants to kill these people.

Sorry...I was just told that I was thinking of FT2. Maybe a former Jimmy associate?

Sorry...I was just told that I was thinking of FT2. Maybe a former Jimmy associate?

Why does someone have to have been related to Bomis to edit sex articles? Why would a former associate of Jimmy be so vested in Durova's fragile ego that they's make three complex edits" to borrow her terminology to a simple proposal for barnstars (three careful edits, with links to names). NO WAY.

The only person who'd bother to refactor history to cover up her lagging popularity is Durova. If I'm correct here, and this ever is dicovered (and she is bound to out herself in a bigger way eventually) there will be hell to pay. Not from us. Who cares about us. But most of Wikipedia is pissed off at her. Not to mention that the mainstream press has been following this tory. They haven't reported about this, but they know who she is. And when she comes out as being Durova, it will be a major dirtstorm the likes of which you've never seen. No wonder Angela resigned from this playground. She's serious. (and no wonder she didn't speak directly to Durova).

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward.--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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:Off hand, [[User:Jeffpw|Jeffpw]] and [[User:Save Us 229|<font color="007FFF">Save_Us</font>]] did an excellent job doing a large chunk of the cleanup, couldn't have been easy. I'm sure many more were involved in the cleanup portion of this, as there were ton of links. Hope they come forward. Others, of course, [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] [[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User:Mr.Z-man|<font color="#056366">Mr.</font>]]''[[User talk:Mr.Z-man|<font color="#056625">'''Z-'''</font><font color="#054F66">man</font>]]</font>''.. --[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] ([[User talk:Hu12|talk]]) 22:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

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And when she comes out as being Durova, it will be a major dirtstorm the likes of which you've never seen.

When I compared the contribution histories of Durova and HU12, I came across at least a few occasions when they were editing at the very same times. That doesn't really disprove anything, but it's not typical.

I reckon shared idiosyncrasies of usage to be the most reliable guide of identity. Blind partisanship is a good reason to investigate the possibility, but isn't particularly rare or information-heavy, is consciously motivated and can appear for a number of reasons.

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D[b]urova and HU12, I came across at least a few occasions when they were editing at the very same times. That doesn't really disprove anything, but it's not typical.

I reckon shared idiosyncrasies of usage to be the most reliable guide of identity. Blind partisanship is a good reason to investigate the possibility, but isn't particularly rare or information-heavy, is consciously motivated and can appear for a number of reasons.

Can you clarify if you mean that this would prove similtude, or asimilitude. Sorry, I didn't "get" it.

AND I think I was wrong here. I looked at Koh's diff, which was a "diff", not the "current" so maybe I "jumped the gun", on the "time change" thing. If this was a red-herring, I apologize to all I've concerned with this.

On the other hand, maybe I wasn't wrong. (?)

Can you clarify if you mean that this would prove similtude, or asimilitude. Sorry, I didn't "get" it.

Overlapping series of edits by both accounts, to the point where they're coming in with the same time stamp,would generally indicate two different people, unless someone is deliberately logging bogus counterevidence. For example, if we have a desktop and a laptop, the first on a cable or DSL and the latter connected to a neighbor by wireless, we might wait to save the edits until both are ready, then fire them off at the same time, just so that potential investigators will see the shared time stamp.

I haven't seen enough text from Hu12 to say whether or not he/she writes like Durova.

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Ok, I wasn't sure whether you were pointing out that the shared time stamps meant the person(s) were online at the same time (same) or online at the same time (not).

Hu12 doesn't seem to have much of an online personality, as opposed to Durova's which is very notable.

Ok, I wasn't sure whether you were pointing out that the shared time stamps meant the person(s) were online at the same time (same) or online at the same time (not).

Hu12 doesn't seem to have much of an online personality, as opposed to Durova's which is very notable.

Hu12 edits quite a few articles about stock market issues, financial instruments and SEO issues and it has been suggested in this thread that there was some connection to him/her and the Chicago Stock exchange, where Jimbo started his illustrious career.

So, even if Hu12 keeps a low profile, there's probably something there...I don't think that this is a Durova sock, but they do work together....

Hu12 edits quite a few articles about stock market issues, financial instruments and SEO issues and it has been suggested in this thread

*I* could make many intelligent and insightful edits to articles addressing stock market issues, financial instruments and SEO issues.

That wouldn't make me part of the Chicago exchange.

That wouldn't mean I knew Jimbo when he was there.

The CBOT is a huge world exchange, comprising thousands of people. It's not a small elite team. And this person never necessarily worked there.

It could be anyone editing as Hu12.

I think it might be Jehochman, wanting an admin without his name. Still could be Durova too.

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I see lots of edits on futures and forwards. You don't even need to have been working with these to know about them. I don't and I do.

You might be talking about this accusation that Hu12 worked for the futures industry.

Well, I don't disagree with you, but that page is only supposed to be used within our site. It is a paid resource that we have an agreement with them. Its obvious from what you say above that you are part of the futures industry and have your OWN AGENDA for these pages.

Hu12 was simply doing "the old 1-2" auto-revert and taunting some poor newbie with it.

Still doesn't mean that he/she/it works in futures or forwards.

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HU12 is a postal code in the UK for Hull, a city which is a shipping and trading hub in the U.K.. I can see that there are many big banks and shipping companies with establishments there. This doesn't even mean that Wikipedia's "Hu12" is in the UK. Probably Hu12 worked in London (or maybe around Hull HU12), for some financial institution, just like people from the other possible 190 different nationalities. HU12 is a postal code for the "The City" part of London, where all the banking and financial stuff goes. The name use is nostaligic. Probably he moved back to his home country (probably the U.S.) is using the old post code. A Brit wouldn't use a British post code for an ID (well, one U.K. government official did that, and it was foolish, as he got desysopped and accused of sockpuppetry, but don't get me started). Anyways, Hu12 is American.

Banks and trading companies
BP Power Trading Ltd, Saltend, Hull, HU12 8DS
ETA Transport and Trading Group Ltd - Hull. HU12 8EE
Barclays Bank PLC Market Place Patrington Hull North Humberside HU12 0RB United Kingdom
Ehlp Holdings Ltd. HU12 0TY, 6219539,
HSBC Bank plc, 9 Market Place, Hedon, Hull, East Yorkshire, HU12 8JA

Also non-banks have HU12 as an addressing indicator
Association of Drainage Authorities - 18 Market Place, Patrington, HULL, East Yorkshire, HU12 ORB.
Hedon Library, St Augustine Gate, Hedon, Hull, HU12 8EX,
Communication Services 22 New Road, Hedon, Hull, North Humberside, HU12 8EN.

Hmmm, someone who worked in trading, ifinance, in the UK... hmmmmmmm.... not English......Ok - know who I think it is? Pardon my Durova-like theorizing. Our own lovely self-absorbed, TMI, media-chasing Durova clone DAVID SHANKBONE.

Who is David Shankbone? The first thing you should know about me is I’m like nobody else you’ve ever met. My blood is the only connection between George Bernard Shaw and Jane Bowles. I'm a silly bastard, true of heart and I want the best for those in my life. I do not compete with friends or family. I've driven a motorcycle across Cuba, been a paparazzo in New York, worked at Enron in London, skydived over Italy and camped in the Amazon basin for a week to get over an intense fear of insects; it didn't work. I saw death on that trip. It's not the first time: I found a suicide in the woods on New Year's when I was 13 (a boy my age named Mike Drinkwater). By serendipity I found out why he did it. I live in the East Village y hablo Español. I have a scar on my face and a tattoo on my shoulder. David Bowie and The Libertines are all-time faves (I'm always rooting for Pete Doherty to pull through). In the fourth grade the nuns at my Catholic school told my mother in a parent-teacher conference I wanted them dead. I did not. I'm a big guy (6'3), athletic (185#), slim (32W x 34L) and pale (25% Irish/25% Dutch/50% German). I'm glad I'm getting older (wiser) and I disdain youth. I wear a suit to the office where I manage the assets of two of the founding families of New York City. I've moved 33 times amongst 3 countries (US, GB and ES), 6 states (NJ, GA, CO, TX, PA, NY) and 17 cities. Airline family, not military. Then it was me. Everything before NYC is forgotten. I like to travel off the beaten path. Happy endings never bore me.

Currently in jpost.com, being called by the Israeli press "our editor in Wikipedia" (grimace). He is writing for Wikinews, and who proudly brags for having worked for Enron, which any sane ethical person would never do. Enron had an establishment in Hull Hu12, before it tanked from all that CORRUPTION (cough, cough). Shankbone worked for Enron U.K.

That's my guess. Because most people don't give a hoot about Durova this week. Hu12 is too much like her to let her drop. So would be David Shankbone - and how wise of him not to be an asshat-ty administrator in his own name. That's one better than Durova. I'll give him that.

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HU12 is a postal code for the "The City" part of London, where all the banking and financial stuff goes.

No, postal codes for the City all start EC. HU12 is in Hull, a city hundreds of miles away from London. There may be a few financial institutions in HU12, but nothing major. So there are branches of Barclay's and HSBC banks there. Big deal - they have hundreds of branches each, all over the country.

HU12 is a postal code for the "The City" part of London, where all the banking and financial stuff goes.

No, postal codes for the City all start EC. HU12 is in Hull, a city hundreds of miles away from London. There may be a few financial institutions in HU12, but nothing major. So there are branches of Barclay's and HSBC banks there. Big deal - they have hundreds of branches each, all over the country.

Lackey seems to be a bit overzealous in geographical correlations, hull-london, IBM Global Services-DC, etc.

To borrow from the Housemartins, "London 4, Hull 0". WR 2, Lackey 0 on geography.

Don't depend on WP for your geographical sleuthing, DL !!

Has Hu12's hivemind activity against the Byrne thing been shanked on Brandt's truth-in-admintizing page yet?