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Sue Gardner is kicking her fanaticism into high gear.
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Dear Ms. Gardner,

Like many people who write about Wikipedia from remote observation platforms, you appear to have very little acquaintance with the realities in the trenches. A very large number of people who criticize Wikipedia — voices you dismiss as “detractors” — do at least have the experience of those realities to inform their criticisms. They will neither be impressed by the devices of glowing rhetoric nor induced by yet another call to “circle the wagons” to ignore what they know of the atrocities in those trenches.

Now, I doubt if there’s any way you can go from Wiki-Princess to Wiki-Pauper and slum about incognito on the streets of your realm without very quickly being recognized — nor can I ethically wish that experience on anyone — but you might be able to bring your level of empirical information up to par by participating in The Wikipedia Review. Because it samples the same population as Wikipedia itself it can be a wild and woolly arena at times, but there are at least a few moderators of moderate good sense who try to maintain isolated pockets of decorum. So I leave that invitation open to you.

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Dear Ms. Gardner,

Like many people who write about Wikipedia from remote observation platforms, you appear to have very little acquaintance with the realities in the trenches. A very large number of people who criticize Wikipedia — voices you dismiss as “detractors” — do at least have the experience of those realities to inform their criticisms. They will neither be impressed by the devices of glowing rhetoric nor induced by yet another call to “circle the wagons” to ignore what they know of the atrocities in those trenches.

Now, I doubt if there’s any way you can go from Wiki-Princess to Wiki-Pauper and slum about incognito on the streets of your realm without very quickly being recognized — nor can I ethically wish that experience on anyone — but you might be able to bring your level of empirical information up to par by participating in The Wikipedia Review. Because it samples the same population as Wikipedia itself it can be a wild and woolly arena at times, but there are at least a few moderators of moderate good sense who try to maintain isolated pockets of decorum. So I leave that invitation open to you.

Sincerely,

Jon Awbrey



“Open” is just another word for take a number and go to hell …

My comment was tagged as № 21. It's been 24 hours and I see that the comment tagged № 22 has already been posted — doing the math, that's 6 comments posted out of 22 or more — you have to suspect that the other 16 or more were either all ads for \/|/-\⅁℞/-\ or regarded by Ms. Gardner as equally valuable to “Da Cause”.

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thekohser   Everybody’s reaction to Wikipedia has gotten warmer over time  
Jon Awbrey   Sue Gardner is kicking her fanaticism into high g...  
The Joy   MSN7vZZZa44  
WikiWatch   *"Work will make you free" ... :lol...  
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='The Joy' post='246601' date='Wed 4th...  
thekohser   [youtube]MSN7vZZZa44 Your post was very inspir...  
Larry Sanger   I just noticed this. My response to Sue (we'l...  
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thekohser   I just noticed this. My response to Sue (we...  
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Moulton   Sue has released from moderation my post (reproduc...  
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Moulton   Dripping With Hot Wax Sincerely, I call B.S.  
Jon Awbrey   [b]Dripping With Hot Wax Sincerely, I call B....  
Moulton   [i]“Open” is just another word for tak...  
Somey   ...you have to suspect that the other 16 or more w...  
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='246997' date='Fri ...  
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Milton Roe   It's 22 O'Block — Do You Know Wher...  
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='247103' date='Fri ...  
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Moulton   Now you can do a Post-Mortem / Post-Partum Analysi...  
Jon Awbrey   Now you can do a Post-Mortem / Post-Partum Analys...  
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thekohser   "Bodnotbod" left a comment: Has the g...  
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