Learning Without Frontiers, where Wikia is 17% of the formula Options

[thekohser]

Jimbo yammering about Wikipedia and its role in learning...

Surprise -- no real insight into learning, but 17% of the video is dedicated to promoting various Wikia, Inc. wikis!

[EricBarbour]

I wouldn't know, I could only stand about 5 minutes of that crap.

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Response: OK Jimmy Wales – what's next after Wikipedia?
by Donald Clark on January 14, 2011
Wikipedia is a miracle and Jimmy Wales walks on digital water. So it was great to both see him speak, and get to speak to him, at Learning Without Frontiers this week
Response: Evolving the dream
by Dan Stucke on January 11, 2011
Seeing a massive change in the quality and quantity of informal learning. Talk about the dream of free knowledge for everyone. Free access to the sum of all human knowledge.
Response: Jimmy Wales, Founder, Wikipedia
by David Muir on January 11, 2011
What is free access? Wikipedia is the largest encyclopaedia. It is free access - that is free as in free speech rather than free beer. When people contribute to Wikipedia, they are contributing an open source resource that is being re-mixed and reused.

Who the hell are those people? Are they even real, or are they fake comments designed to make Jimbo look "more important"?

[Zoloft]

I wouldn't know, I could only stand about 5 minutes of that crap.

References (3)
References allow you to track sources for this article, as well as articles that were written in response to this article.
Response: OK Jimmy Wales – what's next after Wikipedia?
by Donald Clark on January 14, 2011
Wikipedia is a miracle and Jimmy Wales walks on digital water. So it was great to both see him speak, and get to speak to him, at Learning Without Frontiers this week
Response: Evolving the dream
by Dan Stucke on January 11, 2011
Seeing a massive change in the quality and quantity of informal learning. Talk about the dream of free knowledge for everyone. Free access to the sum of all human knowledge.
Response: Jimmy Wales, Founder, Wikipedia
by David Muir on January 11, 2011
What is free access? Wikipedia is the largest encyclopaedia. It is free access - that is free as in free speech rather than free beer. When people contribute to Wikipedia, they are contributing an open source resource that is being re-mixed and reused.

Who the hell are those people? Are they even real, or are they fake comments designed to make Jimbo look "more important"?

Daniel Stucke is apparently a wookie.
http://www.mrstucke.com/

[thekohser]

'Gregory Kohs' commented on Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia, LWF Talk, London 2011:

Jimmy Wales, as usual, confuses "information" for "knowledge". Knowledge comes with accountability and attribution to those who have built the traditions of thought and inquiry before you. Wikipedia does very little of that, and Jimmy Wales in particular undermines knowledge by spreading various falsehoods (such as that he was "sole founder" of Wikipedia, or that Wikia, Inc. is "completely separate" from the Wikimedia Foundation, or that he "didn't really have a problem" with an employee of his falsifying their credentials to a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist). I, for one, am tired of this watered-down version of "knowledge" and what that means.

[thekohser]

We have a true believer in the house:

'Graham Brown-Martin' commented on Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia, LWF Talk, London 2011:

Gregory, thank you for your comments.

I had the pleasure of chairing the session with Jimmy and spent some time with him afterwards. I must say that I don't think that he is at all confused about the differences between information and knowledge nor wisdom for that matter.

I don't understand the latter half of your post which seem to be more of a personal attack rather than constructive comment about his talk. Did he forget to send you a birthday card or something?

If you have a personal beef then please take it elsewhere. This conversation is about how platforms like Wikipedia can positively disrupt and improve learning and equality of access as indeed they are.

Don't you think for a second that what Jimmy and the contributors to Wikipedia have established isn't somewhat of an incredible achievement?

Is there something intrinsically bad about enabling thousands of contributors to collectively collaborate to provide such a valuable resource of information and knowledge that is accessible freely to so many people?

I would suggest that Wikipedia and its ilk have proven the exact opposite of your canard. That the tradition which says there shalt be the keeper of the book and thou shalt be the reader is now over and what is important is that information and knowledge is no longer the preserve of an elite or those who would manipulate information for their own ends.

There are a few others of you who are more eloquent and on point than I am with guys like him. Think I could get some assistance there?