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Posted by: EricBarbour

In case you haven't noticed, Sarah Palin http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/palin-i-didnt-mess-up-about-paul-revere/2011/06/05/AGL71aJH_blog.html in her mouth yesterday (again).

Result: it seems that today, the Paul Revere article has been the target of an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Revere#Edit_request_from_Dajames.2C_5_June_2011, intended to
rewrite history. To make Palin http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=432688587&oldid=432686122 to be accurate......

Mentioned on http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/hs9ai/not_that_im_trying_to_ring_any_bells_at_the/, on http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38678_Palin_Fans_Trying_to_Edit_Wikipedia_Paul_Revere_Page, on http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/05/236930/palin-fans-attempting-to-edit-paul-reveres-wikipedia-page/, and spreading to other political blogs.

(Go ahead. Try asking Amadscientist and Tomwsulcer what they hell they are doing. I'm still confused.)

Posted by: Collect

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 5th June 2011, 5:19pm) *

In case you haven't noticed, Sarah Palin http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/palin-i-didnt-mess-up-about-paul-revere/2011/06/05/AGL71aJH_blog.html in her mouth yesterday (again).

Result: it seems that today, the Paul Revere article has been the target of an http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Paul_Revere#Edit_request_from_Dajames.2C_5_June_2011, intended to
rewrite history. To make Palin http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=432688587&oldid=432686122 to be accurate......

Mentioned on http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/hs9ai/not_that_im_trying_to_ring_any_bells_at_the/, on http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/38678_Palin_Fans_Trying_to_Edit_Wikipedia_Paul_Revere_Page, on http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/05/236930/palin-fans-attempting-to-edit-paul-reveres-wikipedia-page/, and spreading to other political blogs.

(Go ahead. Try asking Amadscientist and Tomwsulcer what they hell they are doing. I'm still confused.)



Interestingly enough, the Lexington church bell rang between 2 and 3 a.m. that day - according to the "History of the Town of Lexington, Middlesex County, Massachusetts."

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 5th June 2011, 2:19pm) *

In case you haven't noticed, Sarah Palin http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/palin-i-didnt-mess-up-about-paul-revere/2011/06/05/AGL71aJH_blog.html in her mouth yesterday (again).

Nevermind. It appears the poor woman has bought a house in Arizona and is thinking of being a politician from there.

If you know anything at all about the climate of Arizona and Alaska, and have experienced both for yourself first-hand, during just a few sample times in the year, you will know that Palin has set herself up for physical Hell.

And that's not even counting the political hell that is the natural result of quitting her job in Alaska and then wanting to do anything anywhere else political, ever again.

No use wasting venom on the already-damned. wink.gif`

Posted by: The Joy

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 5th June 2011, 9:04pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sun 5th June 2011, 2:19pm) *

In case you haven't noticed, Sarah Palin http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/palin-i-didnt-mess-up-about-paul-revere/2011/06/05/AGL71aJH_blog.html in her mouth yesterday (again).

Nevermind. It appears the poor woman has bought a house in Arizona and is thinking of being a politician from there.

If you know anything at all about the climate of Arizona and Alaska, and have experienced both for yourself first-hand, during just a few sample times in the year, you will know that Palin has set herself up for physical Hell.

And that's not even counting the political hell that is the natural result of quitting her job in Alaska and then wanting to do anything anywhere else political, ever again.

No use wasting venom on the already-damned. wink.gif`


Yes and Arizona Republican Senator Jon Kyl (T-H-L-K-D) is retiring and his Senate seat will be up for grabs on November 2012. Curious...

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

Sarah Palin • She'll Make You Believe In The 2nd Amendment

Jon tongue.gif

Posted by: Silver seren

Apparently, she was partially right, in a small amount. Revere did tell the British that "500 troops were massing against them", but that was after his ride was over, which was when he got "caught" by the British. But that's all that happened, so she was partially correct, but overall wrong.

Not that this is surprising.

But the article has the correct part of the information now reliable sourced and worded properly and, hopefully, the stupid edit war is over.

A rather pathetic edit was it was.

Posted by: lilburne

So (sic) he was just another colonial gobshite?

Posted by: MookieZ



(Is this how it works? We take a topic we don't really care about and post pseudo-related videos of songs we like at the bottom?)

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

Does Palin know that Paul Revere's picture is used on the label of Samuel Adams Beer? blink.gif

QUOTE(MookieZ @ Mon 6th June 2011, 9:30am) *

(Is this how it works? We take a topic we don't really care about and post pseudo-related videos of songs we like at the bottom?)


Works for me! smile.gif

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(MookieZ @ Mon 6th June 2011, 8:30am) *
(Is this how it works? We take a topic we don't really care about and post pseudo-related videos of songs we like at the bottom?)

Sure, but we also do that for topics we do care about, so you sort of have to play it by ear.

Besides, you have to figure that most of what Sarah Palin herself knows about American history probably comes from watching Youtube videos and reading Wikipedia articles, so...



...can you really blame her for having the facts mixed up a little bit?

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 6th June 2011, 10:28am) *

QUOTE(MookieZ @ Mon 6th June 2011, 9:30am) *

(Is this how it works? We take a topic we don't really care about and post pseudo-related videos of songs we like at the bottom?)


Works for me! smile.gif

All righty, then!


Posted by: EricBarbour

http://www.stinque.com/2011/06/06/the-midnight-edits-of-paul-revere/ of this was especially snappy.

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I’m truly shocked at the professionalism of the WP editors – I would have set up a “Some people say that Tomwsulcer is a horse fucker” page after the first time around… wink.gif

And they brought up the Conservapedia page about Revere. It's difficult to complain about Wikipedia's coverage of Revere, after seeing crap http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=875824&oldid=636603 and http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=next&oldid=875826.
I'd call Conservapedia the "Bizarro Wikipedia", if Wikipedia weren't already run by Bizarros.

And now, Slate http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/06/06/editing-wikipedia-to-make-palin-right-about-paul-revere.aspx.
Mr. Sulcer, you really blew it......

Posted by: Tarc

Not connected to ol Paul, but this is still my favorite Palin video;


Posted by: Michaeldsuarez

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 6th June 2011, 4:22pm) *

And they brought up the Conservapedia page about Revere. It's difficult to complain about Wikipedia's coverage of Revere, after seeing crap http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=875824&oldid=636603 and http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=next&oldid=875826.
I'd call Conservapedia the "Bizarro Wikipedia", if Wikipedia weren't already run by Bizarros.

And now, Slate http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/06/06/editing-wikipedia-to-make-palin-right-about-paul-revere.aspx.
Mr. Sulcer, you really blew it......


Interestingly, the majority of http://www.conservapedia.com/Osama_Bin_Laden is devoted to criticizing Obama.

Posted by: Sxeptomaniac

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 6th June 2011, 1:22pm) *

And they brought up the Conservapedia page about Revere. It's difficult to complain about Wikipedia's coverage of Revere, after seeing crap http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=875824&oldid=636603 and http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Paul_Revere&diff=next&oldid=875826.
I'd call Conservapedia the "Bizarro Wikipedia", if Wikipedia weren't already run by Bizarros.

That last one blows my mind: "Part of the purpose of Revere's ride was to warn the British already present in the colonies that colonists would be exercising their 2nd Amendment rights."

I guess it says a lot about hardcore Palin fans, though. I just wish the press would start ignoring her, as airtime/print spent on her is an utter waste. Follow some real politicians, even the ones I don't particularly care for. At least they do something. She's a reality star these days, on par with the Jersey Shore dimwits. She does nothing and gets tons of press for it.

Posted by: A Horse With No Name

QUOTE(Sxeptomaniac @ Tue 7th June 2011, 11:13am) *
She's a reality star these days, on par with the Jersey Shore dimwits.


Oh, I don't know -- I think Snooki is more interesting. boing.gif

Posted by: EricBarbour

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/56186.html

QUOTE
The reporters who are speeding, tailgating, cutting off other cars, blasting through roundabouts and passing on the right in an effort to keep up, say they have no other choice since they never know what Palin’s up to or where she’s headed — and aides typically won’t tell them anything. Once they’re on the road, they’re filing urgent updates by phone and figuring out unorthodox bathroom breaks, like the reporter who pulled over to relieve himself on the side of the highway going from Gettysburg, Pa., to Philadelphia — drawing notice from both Palin aides and the rest of the trailing press.

“It’s like paparazzi,” said one reporter who followed Palin to the Thursday evening clambake. “It’s like following Princess Diana.”

Isn't that nice. We get to watch the death of "journalism".
That's what Palin really is.

And Wikipedia is, apparently, the death of scholarship. Her BLP is one of the most
vandalized and closely hyper-watched of all. It's also one of the longest.....currently
at 166,000 bytes. The only BLPs that are longer: George W. Bush,
Ernst Nolte(?), Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton,
Tiger Woods, Aussie cricket player Ricky Ponting(???)
and ha ha, Lyndon LaRouche.

And that brings up Wikipedia's longest biography of all.
Which I'm going to discuss (with disgust) elsewhere.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 7th June 2011, 7:17pm) *

And that brings up Wikipedia's longest biography of all. Which I'm going to discuss (with disgust) elsewhere.

Has to be Michael Jackson. Wikipedia itself is, after all, the king of pop.

Posted by: NuclearWarfare

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 7th June 2011, 7:17pm) *

And that brings up Wikipedia's longest biography of all. Which I'm going to discuss (with disgust) elsewhere.

Ordering by number of bytes in the page (not number of letters or words):

Fanny Crosby (T-H-L-K-D)
Jiddu Krishnamurti (T-H-L-K-D)


I don't get it.

Posted by: gomi

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:30am) *
Fanny Crosby (T-H-L-K-D) ... I don't get it.

Wow. 825 citations for an article that, most likely, no one has ever read all the way through. What a monument to wasted effort.

Posted by: Zoloft

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:35am) *

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:30am) *
Fanny Crosby (T-H-L-K-D) ... I don't get it.

Wow. 825 citations for an article that, most likely, no one has ever read all the way through. What a monument to wasted effort.

Back when I gave a rat's ass about fixing Wikipedia's problems in their entirety, I read this all the way through.

If you sliced the other contemporary biographies out of the article, reduced the number of photos of the subject, and tossed a good amount of glurge out of the narrative, you would still have a massive hagiography.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Zoloft @ Wed 8th June 2011, 12:36pm) *

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:35am) *

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:30am) *
Fanny Crosby (T-H-L-K-D) ... I don't get it.

Wow. 825 citations for an article that, most likely, no one has ever read all the way through. What a monument to wasted effort.

Back when I gave a rat's ass about fixing Wikipedia's problems in their entirety, I read this all the way through.

If you sliced the other contemporary biographies out of the article, reduced the number of photos of the subject, and tossed a good amount of glurge out of the narrative, you would still have a massive hagiography.

Indeed. Pronounced with a hard "g." ermm.gif

Posted by: Zoloft

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Wed 8th June 2011, 12:42pm) *

QUOTE(Zoloft @ Wed 8th June 2011, 12:36pm) *

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:35am) *

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Wed 8th June 2011, 11:30am) *
Fanny Crosby (T-H-L-K-D) ... I don't get it.

Wow. 825 citations for an article that, most likely, no one has ever read all the way through. What a monument to wasted effort.

Back when I gave a rat's ass about fixing Wikipedia's problems in their entirety, I read this all the way through.

If you sliced the other contemporary biographies out of the article, reduced the number of photos of the subject, and tossed a good amount of glurge out of the narrative, you would still have a massive hagiography.

Indeed. Pronounced with a hard "g." ermm.gif

" 11:00, 14 November 2005 Mr Tan (talk | contribs) m (3,281 bytes) (reduce image size; black glasses could haunt readers at night (from my view)) "
laugh.gif

The article was a lot easier to read before smjwalsh took it from 10k in February to 284k now.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Mon 6th June 2011, 1:04am) *

Nevermind. It appears the poor woman has bought a house in Arizona and is thinking of being a politician from there.

On the ocean-front, in fact.

Posted by: KD Tries Again

An encyclopedia or a laughing stock?

QUOTE
Jill Lepore, a historian and a professor at Harvard who wrote an article in the New Yorker about the “Hyperlore” surrounding Revere’s ride, sent along the Revere entry from the American National Biography Online. This entry, she said, was “a scholarly dictionary, and authored, and, therefore, exactly the opposite of Wikipedia.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/13/business/media/13link.html?ref=technology