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tarantino
post Tue 27th July 2010, 9:27pm
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 27th July 2010, 7:21pm) *


OK. Network 1.0.0.0/8 evidently does belong to IANA (The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) which administers the Internet.


It was recently allocated to APNIC.

A few IPs have edited WP from that range over the years, for example 1.1.1.227.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=118261241
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=126207619

It's odd that Special:Contributions/1.1.1.227 only shows one of those edits.

This edit by 1.2.3.4 looks like Kate playing around.
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post Fri 30th July 2010, 3:18pm
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Per NPR this morning: The Obama administration has request that WL forgoes posting the remaining 15,000 documents claiming that they present serious risk to US personal and allies. They also claim this harm has already been done by the 90,000 documents already posted. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The Obama administration is not inclined to act to censor and is infatuated with social media. But protecting lives of people who fight a war for you is pretty basic. WL has shown more restraint than Free Kulture fanatics might like but not posting material at all must go against their grain, especially when they have tried to play nice. It is a something we don't see often...a confrontation between moderates who have important interests at stake.
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post Wed 4th August 2010, 2:36pm
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The Wikileaks war dump has now spurred discussion about the extraterritorial nature of internet and the need for nation states to be able to respond to threats rather than just shrug their shoulders and say "its the internet so there is nothing we can do about it." Former Bush speech writer Marc Thiessen has suggested that the US respond with the special rendition (kidnapping and detention) of Wikileaks founder Assange. Of course this is over the top cowboy stuff. But it arises from very real frustrations over security concerns. More sensible approaches would like take the form of high stakes diplomatic pressure and ultimately treaty provision among nation states facilitating appropriate intervention. But doing nothing is not an option when an internet source releases information that threaten the lives of assets, allies and civilians.
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post Fri 6th August 2010, 1:41pm
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Per NPR this morning: The administration is asking WL to "do the right thing" and not post the remaining 15,000 documents. They go on to indicate that failing that some sort action would be forthcoming. WL has posted a large encrypted document entitle "insurance." The journalist didn't know what to make of this. Maybe WL is distributing this now and will provide a key later if any action is taken against them?

Add: Googled "Wiki Leaks insurance" it looks like the insurance file has been posted since at least July 30.
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post Fri 6th August 2010, 2:43pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 6th August 2010, 1:41pm) *

Per NPR this morning: The administration is asking WL to "do the right thing" and not post the remaining 15,000 documents. They go on to indicate that failing that some sort action would be forthcoming. WL has posted a large encrypted document entitle "insurance." The journalist didn't know what to make of this. Maybe WL is distributing this now and will provide a key later if any action is taken against them?

Add: Googled "Wiki Leaks insurance" it looks like the insurance file has been posted since at least July 30.


Cyrptome explains a bit more. It seems to be insurance in case the site is taken down, either by court order or physical seizure. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptome or even a lawyer unconnected thus far to Wikileaks had access to the decryption key.
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post Fri 6th August 2010, 3:08pm
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A state document that was made available to me, which I uploaded to Wikileaks about 10 days ago, has still not been published on that site.
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post Fri 6th August 2010, 4:11pm
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QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Fri 6th August 2010, 8:43am) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 6th August 2010, 1:41pm) *

Per NPR this morning: The administration is asking WL to "do the right thing" and not post the remaining 15,000 documents. They go on to indicate that failing that some sort action would be forthcoming. WL has posted a large encrypted document entitle "insurance." The journalist didn't know what to make of this. Maybe WL is distributing this now and will provide a key later if any action is taken against them?

Add: Googled "Wiki Leaks insurance" it looks like the insurance file has been posted since at least July 30.


Cyrptome explains a bit more. It seems to be insurance in case the site is taken down, either by court order or physical seizure. I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptome or even a lawyer unconnected thus far to Wikileaks had access to the decryption key.


I might be giving WL too much credit but my take on them is that they are not completely in the camp of internet libertarian extremists. I base this on their pre-releasing the war dump to select mainstream outlets and holding back some material for further vetting. They seem like Indy-Media...one foot in a more socially responsible and truly progressive camp. Cyrptome seems peopled by folks who live inside a Neal Stephenson novel. Hopefully they just downloaded the files so they can later join in the fray and aren't a real part of WLs camp. The problem is that Assange is getting a lot of adulation from the libertarian extremists right now.
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post Sat 7th August 2010, 3:36am
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 6th August 2010, 4:11pm) *
I might be giving WL too much credit but my take on them is that they are not completely in the camp of internet libertarian extremists. I base this on their pre-releasing the war dump to select mainstream outlets and holding back some material for further vetting. They seem like Indy-Media...one foot in a more socially responsible and truly progressive camp.


I would tend to agree with that analysis as well. However, something that one should remember is the relative newness of Wikileaks. They have had major leaks before 2010, but their first one to affect US military operations was about the July 12, 2007 Baghdad airstrike (T-H-L-K-D), where they simply posted the video on a sister site and let the mainstream media start from there. I wouldn't be surprised if they are still experimenting and trying to figure out the best way to reveal secrets without doing too much damage to individuals. The next release of materials will probably be distributed in another method entirely.

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A state document that was made available to me, which I uploaded to Wikileaks about 10 days ago, has still not been published on that site.

What was this state document? Wikileaks does have some standards for what it publishes, and your document might not have met them.

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post Sat 7th August 2010, 4:22am
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Out of all the hoopla and the rest, am I the only one who's only impression over this whole matter is that the WikiLeaks guy looks really, really creepy?

Just the image of him shuts off my brain's ability to really think about the rest. His look is almost horror movie kinda weird.
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post Sat 7th August 2010, 4:45am
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 6th August 2010, 11:22pm) *
Just the image of him shuts off my brain's ability to really think about the rest. His look is almost horror movie kinda weird.

You're probably thinking he looks like Angus Scrimm, aka "The Tall Man" from the Phantasm movies.

Which he does, sort of... blink.gif

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post Sat 7th August 2010, 4:58am
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 7th August 2010, 12:45am) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 6th August 2010, 11:22pm) *

Just the image of him shuts off my brain's ability to really think about the rest. His look is almost horror movie kinda weird.


You're probably thinking he looks like Angus Scrimm, aka "The Tall Man" from the Phantasm movies.

Which he does, sort of … blink.gif

Image

BOOOYYY!!!
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post Sat 7th August 2010, 5:17am
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QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Sat 7th August 2010, 3:36am) *

What was this state document? Wikileaks does have some standards for what it publishes, and your document might not have met them.

Probably Jimbo's marriage license or something similar. dry.gif
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post Sat 7th August 2010, 10:14pm
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Sat 7th August 2010, 1:17am) *

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Sat 7th August 2010, 3:36am) *

What was this state document? Wikileaks does have some standards for what it publishes, and your document might not have met them.

Probably Jimbo's marriage license or something similar. dry.gif


Sort of the opposite.
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