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After a loooong, drawn out compromise session, Blueboar comes up with a new formula to blunt the "not truth" dumb line, so when the discussion dies down and someone moves to close the discussion a few days early, SV seizes the opportunity to turn the whole thing on its head and attempt to force the whole process to start over.
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I might go a step further and say that it's a license to lie. If it were a real encyclopedia, anything that was the slightest bit questionable would simply be excluded. A real encyclopedia is expected to be authoritative. What Slim and her crew want is to simply be able to slough off the blame for irresponsible crap on to some purported "source."

Allow me to put in a plug for my blog post on this topic.
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 1st November 2011, 5:53pm) *

I might go a step further and say that it's a license to lie. If it were a real encyclopedia, anything that was the slightest bit questionable would simply be excluded. A real encyclopedia is expected to be authoritative. What Slim and her crew want is to simply be able to slough off the blame for irresponsible crap on to some purported "source."


Well, yeah. And in some ways even worse, it's an endorsement of amplifying the mistakes and carelessness of others. It should not be a big deal that, when the NYT makes a boneheaded mistake, we ignore them. Right now we're having a big battle over a cheap energy scam because we can't clamp down on it by saying, "look, I don't care about their documentation, the science is all wrong, and besides this looks like every other such scam device that ever came along." Brittanica just yawns and says "call us back when you have a working power plant," and we should too. Instead, we have some fool at Forbes who is too dim (or whatever) to figure it out, and nobody can say, "look, this guy is an idiot; ignore him."

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