Slim ownership of WP:V Options

[papaya]

After a loooong, drawn out compromise session, Blueboar comes up with a new formula to blunt the "not truth" dumb line, so when the discussion dies down and someone moves to close the discussion a few days early, SV seizes the opportunity to turn the whole thing on its head and attempt to force the whole process to start over.

[Abd]

OMG, Hipocrite (T-C-L-K-R-D) showed up in the AfD for Energy Catalyzer, full of radical misinformation:

Delete and banhammer a bunch of SPAs I have reviewed the sourcing. Aside from Ny Teknik, which appears to be a mouthpiece for the "inventors," and "New Energy Times," a pseudo-blog published by a frequently blocked/banned/whatever wikipedian, and a bunch of other blogs, SEO aggregates and credulous sources that repeat the blogs, there's also one reliable source - a blog by a Forbes contributor. There's a lot of text, and a lot of sources, due to the pressure by actual paid advocates who are engaging in what appears to be challenged as fraud by many. This is an entity attempting to sell units to the general public - and we're basically complicit. Hipocrite (talk) 19:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Ny Teknik is an established technology journal. Most Ny Teknik editors think the device is bogus, but they have done investigative reporting. New Energy Times is published by StevenBKrivit (T-C-L-K-R-D) who is not banned, and has never been blocked, AFAIK, and who is probably (marginally) notable, he's been covered in reliable sources.. He's very negative on the E-Cat, though positive on "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions." "paid advocates" is highly unlikely. And nothing is being sold to the general public. Those who have negotiated with Rossi are consenting adults who are quite aware of the risks. And that's a huge story all of its own; in any case, anyone who depends on a Wikipedia article for information on which to base an investment decision deserves to lose his shirt for terminal idiocy.

I haven't reviewed that article recently, but the sourcing was reasonably solid when I did, about six months ago. I'd taken out the stuff that wasn't solid, as did others who are far, far from being shills for Rossi. But there are many poorly-informed but highly motivated -- read "excited" -- newcomers to the field. In any case, Hipocrite is demonstrating (his? her?) famous disregard for truth. And verifiability as well.