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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Fri 15th April 2011, 12:07am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 15th April 2011, 3:18am) Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....
It's not a reformatted ED. Oh Internet was constructed from scratch. Why did Ed close? Was there some lawsuit we don't know about? Seems strange it just vanished like that.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 1:51am) QUOTE [Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much [Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD [Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing [Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK [Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it [Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground [Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while [Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni [Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe [Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it [Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds [Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc [Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah. [Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made [Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away [Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE [Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine [Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over [Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want [Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded [Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship" [Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit" [Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah [Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work [Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE [Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned [Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles [Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol
The log proves the cream of wikipedia's intelligentsia edited there.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Thu 14th April 2011, 10:51pm) [Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it [Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds [Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc [Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah. [Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made [Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away [Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
Is THAT who she blames? Ha ha ha. Mebbe I should sell HER the swampland. Mr. Brandt, did you finally get thru to them, and that's why ED is "gone for good"? If so, a) good fer you and have a drink, and b) where am I gonna go to look up crazy people from Livejournal and Deviant Art? That was practically the only legitimate use ED had--it listed some of the worst net-trolls. In a maybe-not-deserved shit-on-their-heads format, granted. But at least there was something. How else can you find out that wackos like Snapesnogger and Jessica Elwood aren't who they say they are? This post has been edited by EricBarbour:
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 15th April 2011, 2:46am) But isn't this always how these things end up? I mean, you put together a perfectly good shock site, dedicated to racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, and advocacy of a wide variety of sexual perversions, only to have it ruined by 12-year-old btard fgz. I mean, what's the point of even trying anymore? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) lousy kids.
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QUOTE(Theanima @ Fri 15th April 2011, 5:27pm) This new "ohinternet" is down for me...
One or two btards (see /b/ subheading in this article) were DDoSing ohinternet.com with their Low Orbit Internet Cannon. This resulted in massive packet losses on the last hop, and your connection timed out. But it's past their bedtime now, and everything seems okay. The btard reaction to the ohinternet.com "sell-out" surprises me. They're throwing tantrums, thereby confirming Sherrod's low opinion of them. But the larger issue is that ED should have purged these losers in 2006. ED waited too long, and now there are a lot of them, and they are all mad as hell at Sherrod. Most of ED's high traffic was fueled by the btard affinity for vulgarity and kinkiness. It will be difficult for ohinternet.com to succeed without that sort of magnetism, it seems to me.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Fri 15th April 2011, 8:02pm) But the larger issue is that ED should have purged these losers in 2006. ED waited too long, and now there are a lot of them, and they are all mad as hell at Sherrod. Most of ED's high traffic was fueled by the btard affinity for vulgarity and kinkiness. It will be difficult for ohinternet.com to succeed without that sort of magnetism, it seems to me. Nothing succeeds on the net like douchebaggery. Even more popular than porn, I suspect. Do you know how many 4chan-type imageboards there are now? Hundreds, easily. Most of them started by, and dominated by, the kind of 14-year-old bigots that helped make /b/ world-famous. ED used to have a good list of _chans, but that's gone now. This is pathetic by comparison.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 15th April 2011, 8:06pm) Kinda reminds me of uncensored Bevis+Butthead meets blue stoner standup. You have to smoke a lot of weed to even read it. (I imagine)
I also... imagine. Good job, whoever killed it.
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 16th April 2011, 6:34pm) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclop...ca#New_ED_is_upWhat gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work? Evidently, ED filled a real need. A need for shitheads to abuse each other, and everyone else.The new one is kinda pathetic, like an homage assembled by bored teenagers (which it probably was). The server keeps crashing out too. Oh, btw..... here's Gawker's take on all this ED crap. Please note this statement: QUOTE If DeGrippo sounds suspiciously like someone hoping to sell a hot property—meme-documentation rival Know Your Meme was recently sold to The Cheezburger Network for a "low seven-figure payday"—she's not letting on. This post has been edited by EricBarbour:
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I asked Queen Sherrod to delete my bio on ED, after being informed by an ED insider that she was the final arbiter of all disputed content on ED. I was informed by this insider that the Queen got my email, didn't recognize my name, and then informed this insider that she (the Queen) had decided not to reply to me. I lobbied further with the help of this insider to get my bio deleted. But this sympathetic insider felt that he/she did not have the power to do this unilaterally, even though he/she was an administrator on ED. When Sheneequa was doxed a few weeks later (thanks to efforts by my research partner who later started josephevers.blogspot.com), this ED insider (a different person from my research partner) suddenly obtained permission to delete my bio. But by then my thinking was that there are a lot of real-life names on ED, and to put it simply, the entire site did not deserve to exist. Anyone who asked for deletion of their name from ED was treated with the utmost contempt, conveniently disguised as "lulz." Already there are a lot of real-life names showing up on OhInternet.com. Queen Sherrod should be a lot more cautious about this; she needs to establish a policy. QUOTE To: Sherrod DeGrippo, Encyclopedia Dramatica sherrod@girlvinyl.com cc: [redacted] From: Daniel Brandt, Public Information Research Date: August 30, 2010 Dear Ms. DeGrippo: Do you have an email address for Long Dong Silver? Or if you prefer, can you forward this email to him? Earlier this month, he wrote this: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/cz9q...sop_ama/c0wfrm3 "As a note to any other people with a similar issue. When requesting a removal or edit to a page, a nicely worded email will often suffice. Cursing, ranting, and frivolous legal threats result in it being featured on the front page as the Article Of The Now." I wish to request the removal of the article about me on ED: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Daniel_Brandt It shows up as number 1 in both Google and Yahoo in a search for "daniel brandt" without the quotation marks. Bing.com apparently has the good taste to not index this page at all. I am president of a tax-exempt public charity, and our board of directors feels that this article has a negative impact on our ability to obtain foundation funding to support our projects. They have asked me to request that it be deleted. Thank you, Daniel Brandt --------------------------------------------------------------------- Public Information Research, PO Box 680635, San Antonio TX 78268-0635 www.namebase.org [redacted]@sbcglobal.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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QUOTE(radek @ Mon 18th April 2011, 12:58am) QUOTE Bing.com apparently has the good taste to not index this page at all. I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days. The top search result for Daniel Brandt on Bing is www.danielbrandt.com. An out-of-date, barely maintained site about some (german I think) DJ or other... The top search result on google is www.wikipedia-watch.org. That site isn't even on the first page in Bing. Or the second. Though the 2nd page has two uncyclopedia entries for Daniel Brandt. Bing not being evil would be nice. If they only had a search algorithm that was even somewhat competent, it might even be useful.
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QUOTE(radek @ Sun 17th April 2011, 3:58pm) I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.
The expected fact that people turn out to be the very thing they strenuously and unexpectedly deny, is so hackneyed that it almost doesn't qualify as irony. "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons," says Emerson.
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:47am) QUOTE(melloden @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:00am) Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?
Yes. You can see and judge for yourself. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me. Wait, so ED is officially permanently gone? Damn, shoulda saved that nude pic of McBride when I had the chance (wait, I think Alison deleted it, anyway ...)
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QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 19th April 2011, 12:52am) QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:47am) QUOTE(melloden @ Mon 18th April 2011, 4:00am) Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?
Yes. You can see and judge for yourself. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me. Wait, so ED is officially permanently gone? Damn, shoulda saved that nude pic of McBride when I had the chance (wait, I think Alison deleted it, anyway ...) Fear not, the lulz has been preserved; http://encyclopediadramatica.ch
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 5:57pm) The /b/tards can't seem to comprehend what the word copyright means. ED had a far stronger copyright policy than the weak CC by SA thing that Wikipedia has and this .ch fork would have to, at the very least, give attribution to ED for their copied information.
But they haven't and can't seem to understand why they have to.
I'm so hoping that Sherrod will get their service provider to shut them down.
The .ch version looks like a lot more fun, though. I did contribute here and there to the old ED, but I may sign up for the other one now. I mean, c'mon... Juggalo, the oh internet intro; QUOTE A 'juggalo' is an individual with an unhealthy obsession with the musical workings of rap group Insane Clown Posse. Juggalos are known for wearing clan make-up in public, bumming around trailer parks, showing devotion to the 'family', going to juggalo gatherings, and having children out of wedlock. Juggalos may be found online on Youtube, Myspace, and occasionally in Furry communities. vs. ED Classic; QUOTE A Juggalo is a member of the Insane Clown Posse's cult of personality(Its a well known fact that all Juggalos are Lolcows). They are easy to spot, as they proudly wear their clown makeup in public, dress in dark clothing and behave without any class or dignity. They are not to be confused with goths, as goths have better taste in music. Typically hailing from trailer parks, these individuals are often fat, ugly, toothless, use an amount of profanity in conversation that even EDiots would find excessive, have no taste, smoke meth, so helplessly retarded if they killed themselves their Parents would be proud, and opt out of their educations in the 8th grade. Strangely enough, despite claiming to enjoy ICP for their musical merits (Insinuating they enjoy rap in general), you will never hear them listening to any music groups outside of the Psychopathic Records label. They are utterly oblivious and often hostile to the reality that the band and it's "music" is a parody, much like the more popular and successful joke of a white rapper, Eminem.
tl;dr: Take the worst of rap, the worst of rock, white trash, wiggerhood, MTV, mix generously with steaming shit, then throw clown face paint on top of the whole mess, and you get a Juggalo. I'll choose lulz over milquetoast, thanks.
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According to the *.ch domain registry terms of service, it might be possible to make a case for revocation of the encyclopediadramatica.ch domain name. For example, look at number 7 below. I suspect the Australian government would, if pressed, send the registry a letter requesting revocation of the domain name due to the Aboriginal article, which the Australian Civil Rights Commission claims is a criminal violation under Australian law. Other countries might also have objections to various articles if they have "hate speech" laws. QUOTE 3.3.2
Deletion by revocation
SWITCH revokes the registration of a domain name if SWITCH is presented with a decision of a court or of a court of arbitration enforceable in Switzerland, or a decision by a Swiss criminal prosecution, administrative or regulatory authority enforceable in Switzerland, an expert decision of the dispute resolution service for ".ch" and ".li" domain names, or if a settlement concluded in or out of court by both parties is presented, according to which SWITCH is directly instructed to revoke the domain name, without SWITCH being a party to the corresponding proceedings, or which contains the required holder's consent to revocation or by which that consent is replaced. The third party must submit a certificate of the enforceability of the decision.
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7. other important reasons such as international recommendations, standards or harmonisation require it. In that case the revocation takes place in consultation with OFCOM or the Office of Communications respectively.
With revocation, the domain name is deleted from the Whois service, the database and the zonefile. With the deletion, the domain name becomes available for re-registration after a transition period as defined in para. 3.3.3.
If the revocation took place on the basis of para. 1 above, the domain name is made available for re-registration at the time designated in the decision or in the settlement between the parties or, if such a time is not specified, as quickly as possible.
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Wed 20th April 2011, 9:32pm) I think Jessi Slaughter would disagree, along with most of the Deviant Art people that had ED articles about them. QUOTE Tarc, you need to be careful with who you associate yourself with.
Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters. ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face? Two sides of the same coin.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 20th April 2011, 11:57pm) I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?
Two sides of the same coin.
I don't think even Awbrey reads them with a straight face (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) μὴ μοῦ τοὺς κÏκλους τάÏαττε.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 3:57am)
Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.
ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?
Two sides of the same coin.
With the occasional exception though, the people who this site "outs" generally deserve it. These are innocent kids that some creepy weirdo is messing with. I just read the page and I'm disgusted such "people" exist in the world. This post has been edited by Theanima:
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 3:57am)
Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.
ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?
Two sides of the same coin.
Very astute of you. For example, I know that Awbrey often poses as Justin Beiber to 13 year-old girls on Facebook, then threatens to post their private info on the net when he has it, unless they write in their Facebook accounts "I like ****** **** up my ***." Yes, he does it all in ancient Greek, for sure, but that doesn't change the essential nature of it. It's just slightly more challenging for the reader to follow (not to mention the girls). It makes WR a more highbrow site, but actually we're still just as evil. You know we are.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 21st April 2011, 4:22pm) Very astute of you. For example, I know that Awbrey often poses as Justin Beiber to 13 year-old girls on Facebook, then threatens to post their private info on the net when he has it, unless they write in their Facebook accounts "I like ****** **** up my ***."
My real-life nickname is also that is also that of a famous musician, and I used to use this name as my handle on various Unix machines back in the early/mid 90's. Somehow my accounts were visible to the outside world and I was flooded...and I mean flooded...with e-mails from 15 year-old girls professing their undying love, providing their home addresses and phone numbers, thinking they they were privileged enough to have found the secret e-mail address of Mr. Celebrity. Being an immature 19 yr old at the time, I called a few of them to fuck around. Some I pretended to be Mr. Celebrity and messed with them a bit, but that got tiring quickly so I then berated them for being gullible. If their parents answered, I told them to keep a better eye on their retarded kids. So, would my grizzled, 40-ish self pull this fake Bieber shtick? No. But I find I have little sympathy for the gullibility/stupidity of teens who think a famous person is actually taking a personal interest in them. I've been there, and teaching gullible people a lesson isn't always a bad thing, as harsh as the tactics may be. Apart from the Bieber Fever junk though, overall ED was simply a very amusing website that was quite handy to link to from time to time. Whether it is mbz's fanboys trying to get into her panties or the general whining of the "omg don't delete my article, it has a million google hits!" brigade, something has been lost. "Oh Internet" is the kind of site my grandmother would find funny. I mean, Broccoli dog? Seriously?
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