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Zeraeph
post Tue 6th January 2009, 11:13am
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Mattisse seems to be doing very, very well.

Perhaps it is my focus, but it seems to me that she has managed to find ways show plenty of evidence of SG allowing, and even encouraging, her to behave in ways that are significantly worse than anything they are condemning in the RFC - as long as her behaviour was of use to SG.

I also find this interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...Cyborg_Ninja.3F

See I could never understand why Mattisse suddenly hit on myself, and an article I created with such irrational ferocity (which, as my later observations have shown me, was also uncharacteristic), a few weeks later (9 December 2007 - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=182498619 ). It felt personal, but I had never come across Mattisse before...made no sense.

However, about halfway through the arbcom process, I finally saw, and got to submit privately to the arbcom, some examples of the poison pen emails "TRCourage"/"A Kiwi"/"A.Spotted.Owl" had been posting around admins and others, including SandyGeorgia, to make any trouble she could for me, since at least 2006. (After this, arbcom conceeded, publicly that I had been seriously stalked.)

One of these poison pen emails (dated October 2006) alleged that three editors I have never even heard of before were my sockpuppets. One of those thus named was Cyborg Ninja (it goes without saying that, after 14 months, everybody involved was totally aware that this was a baseless allegation).

If Mattisse can show that SG's first approach to her, in late 2007, involved planting the suggestion that I was Cyborg Ninja...

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post Tue 6th January 2009, 8:10pm
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QUOTE(Zeraeph @ Tue 6th January 2009, 6:13am) *

Mattisse seems to be doing very, very well.

If you say so. My read is that she's been given some very good advice to dial back the invective/conspiracy theories/disparagement a notch or 13. There isn't anyone on that RfC saying that isn't an issue. Whether she can take it or not is a different matter, I found the exchange on Risker's talk instructive.

You really ought to dial down your own invective/conspiracy theories/disparagement for that matter.
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post Tue 6th January 2009, 8:41pm
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Title: You're So Mean
Artist: Matisse
Composer: Carly Simon and Barsoom Tork Associates
MIDI: You're So Vain

You waltzed into the Wiki
Like you were walking onto a yacht
Your words pretending to be so kind
Your background was LightGreySnot
You had one eye on the watchlist
As you watched yourself get caught
And you dreamed you'd be everyone's partner
They'd be your partner, and...

You're so mean
You probably think this thread is about you
You're so mean
I'll bet you think this snark is about you
Don't you? Don't you?

You rebuked me several months ago
When I was still quite naive
Well, you said that we made such a nasty pair
And that you would never leave
But you threw away the things they loved
And one of them was me

I had some dreams there were clods in the Café
Clouds in the Wiki, and...

You're so mean
You probably think this rant is about you
You're so mean
I'll bet you think this snark is about you
Don't you? Don't you?

I had some dreams there were clods in the Café
Clouds in the Wiki, and...

You're so mean
You probably think this song is about you
You're so mean
I'll bet you think this snark is about you
Don't you? Don't you?

Well, I hear you went up to RfC
And your clique naturally won
Then you sent snotmail in confidence
To see what total harm could be done
Well, you're down here, playing childish games
And when you're not, you're with
Some WikiClique spy or the strife of a close friend
Strife of a close friend, and

You're so mean
You probably think this song is about you
You're so mean
I'll bet you think this snark is about you
Don't you? Don't you?


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post Tue 6th January 2009, 9:02pm
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And all the admins think they'll get to sh*g you, they'll get to sh*g you (not mattisse, I'm just getting in the spirit of this creativity lark)

lol that's more like it moulton, thanks biggrin.gif

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Title: Toxic
Artist: Nawlin Wiki
Composer: Bloodshy & Avant, Cathy Dennis, Henrik Jonback, and Barsoom Tork Associates
Midi: Toxic
YouTube: Toxic (Britney Spears Music Video)
[indent]
Jeremy, can't you see, I'm Nawlin
A troll like you should wear a warnin'
It's dangerous, I'm failin'


Rofl, these are excellent. I think you should make a book of them, at the very least on lulu.com smile.gif

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post Tue 6th January 2009, 10:19pm
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QUOTE(Lar @ Tue 6th January 2009, 8:10pm) *


You really ought to dial down your own invective/conspiracy theories/disparagement for that matter.


Yeah, but to do that I would have to tell lies...and I don't "do" lies...


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And all the admins think they'll get to sh*g you, they'll get to sh*g you


Only if they come up to my very high standards...which are heavily invested in concepts such as "under 25" and "works out"...

Moulton...

"Toxic" was ok but so obvious it was kinda already half done for you...

"You're so mean" is however, utterly, riotously, wicked...and truer than truth itself...
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post Tue 6th January 2009, 10:40pm
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I love the other little bit of Britney he did lol. I think our attempts need their own thread. Those who don't appreciate them are free to ignore it smile.gif
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post Tue 6th January 2009, 10:47pm
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QUOTE(wikiwhistle @ Tue 6th January 2009, 10:40pm) *

I love the other little bit of Britney he did lol. I think our attempts need their own thread. Those who don't appreciate them are free to ignore it smile.gif


I think everybody appreciates them really...some are just more secretive about it than others is all. biggrin.gif





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post Fri 9th January 2009, 4:41pm
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Here is how I choose to end my involvement in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=262966824

May I quote that famous line from "William Wallace" (as portrayed by Mel Gibson in the movie "Braveheart"):

FREEDOM!!!!!!!!

Now guys...I have SUCH a lot of living to do...

But...

...as long as you all go on being such quirky fun and stimulation...I guess it will include you guys...

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post Fri 9th January 2009, 5:00pm
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You mean quit until someone mentions your name again? You were gone over a year before this.
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post Fri 9th January 2009, 5:17pm
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Zeraeph, would you like the case blanked? That's easy to do. I'm asking because you might be upset that it breaks your links to Jimbo.

Edit: Actually, you've got the diffs. Blanking it.
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post Fri 9th January 2009, 6:45pm
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See if I had only known that all along...

I just have to post to Jimbo (in public, cos you can't expect people to be psychic, that is not reasonable)

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if I don't get myself indefinately banned, the on and off-Wiki, attempts to get me to engage so that [[User:SandyGeorgia]] and her peculiar little friends can reinforce their "reign of terror" with yet another public lynching will NEVER end
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...and somebody pops up to demonstrate that, in real time...

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QUOTE(One @ Fri 9th January 2009, 5:00pm) *

You mean quit until someone mentions your name again? You were gone over a year before this.


For future reference, the fact that people remain prepared to defend themselves from lies, libel and unprovoked attacks, does not mean they are not sick and tired of somebody, or something, it just means they aren't a doormat...

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PS Does your username "One" come from an obscure movie, that nobody but me ever remembers, about a guy with no face or limbs in WWI?

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post Fri 9th January 2009, 7:41pm
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For anyone who wants out of the Devil's Snare of WMF-sponsored projects, I have perfected a tried and true method to get Jimbo Wales to personally intervene with a site-wide ban.

I offer free consultation and direct personal assistance for anyone who, like Zeraeph, wants to follow in my footsteps.
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post Fri 9th January 2009, 8:01pm
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Hmmmmm,

Why do I get this uneasy feeling that there might be legality issues involved...

...not least with the Geneva Convention?

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I don't have any big issues with Jimbo...he always strikes me as a basically straightforward guy making (maybe a lot of) money out of what SHOULD be a really good and useful idea...

It's the legions of dysfunctional people abusing his really good idea as an island to play "Lord of the Flies" on that I have issues with.

What can Jimbo really do about that?

Except shut the whole thing down, and, c'mon, on his income, would you?

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post Wed 14th January 2009, 3:41am
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Ahhhhhhhhhhh.........

wub.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ge=User:Zeraeph wub.gif

They gave me my indef block AFTER ALL...they just wanted it to be a SURPRISE...

Isn't that SWEET?

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See Moulton...it's a lot easier to get perma-blocked than you thought...you just have to mention "Lord of the Flies", works like a charm, anywhere it IS an appropriate analogy for...

The things you learn in a Brit public school!







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post Wed 14th January 2009, 4:18am
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QUOTE(Zeraeph @ Tue 13th January 2009, 8:41pm) *

Ahhhhhhhhhhh.........

wub.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ge=User:Zeraeph wub.gif

They gave me my indef block AFTER ALL...they just wanted it to be a SURPRISE...

Isn't that SWEET?

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See Moulton...it's a lot easier to get perma-blocked than you thought...you just have to mention "Lord of the Flies", works like a charm, anywhere it IS an appropriate analogy for...

The things you learn in a Brit public school!


Would you mind a short explanation for those of us who (amazingly) haven't been following your case?

Arbcom banned you for one year last Jan 14. That won't be up till tomorrow, so I assume you haven't posted since then?

But then Rlevse shows up today to extend the ban to indefinite. I would have thought the whole purpose of a one-year ban is to see if you repeat the same thing again, after your time is served. Did you? And if so, how did you manage it? And if you managed it, couldn't you just shut up and edit someplace a long way away from the controvery (whatever it was) for awhile?

Could somebody summarize in 100 words here?

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post Wed 14th January 2009, 4:27am
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This (posted a couple of posts back) should explain all you ask:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=262966824

I literally asked for it...for the reasons stated.

Why, in the name of HEAVEN I would want any more to do with a giant, online game of "Lord of the Flies" *shudders* if I can have a real life instead?

Incidentally, the only thing I know about you is that you haven't got a clue what Asperger Syndrome is, but you don't let that discourage you from passing sentence on us anyway...

GOOD for you.
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QUOTE(Zeraeph @ Tue 13th January 2009, 9:27pm) *

This (posted a couple of posts back) should explain all you ask:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=262966824

I literally asked for it...for the reasons stated.

Why, in the name of HEAVEN I would want any more to do with a giant, online game of "Lord of the Flies" *shudders* if I can have a real life instead?

Incidentally, the only thing I know about you is that you haven't got a clue what Asperger Syndrome is, but you don't let that discourage you from passing sentence on us anyway...

GOOD for you.
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I think you have me confused with somebody else on that last and only "thing" you think you "know" about me.

But thanks for the info on what you did to get permabanned. Seems you went to Jimbo's talk page and (in contravention to the ban) stirred the pot on Jan 9 which was 5 days before your 1 year block was due to expire, with an IP sock post. Thus giving everybody all the ammo they needed right there to make the block permanent, and no need to discuss the issues at all.

I don't know if you have Asperger's or not, but if you were interested in the issues, that wasn't a very smart thing to do.

I don't know if you got what you wanted, but you certainly got what you asked for. Have a nice day.

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post Wed 14th January 2009, 5:51am
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Well Milton...

I am very literal...even in public, with Jimbo...tends to fool everyone every time...whether I want it to or not.

And I don't have you even slightly confused:
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=18449&st=2#

But, I happen to think it requires cojones to post coswallop like that with CONVICTION, particularly about little kids...so GOOD FOR YOU biggrin.gif



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What we have here is a mutual lack of empathy.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 14th January 2009, 10:39am) *

What we have here is a mutual lack of empathy.


HELL NO!

I think I have gone out of my way to be downright "new age touchy feely" with him ( sick.gif ) all things considered.

I think he just fails to understand that, even if I wanted it, honest discussion of "the issues" was never going to be an available option...

I had two choices:

1. I could walk, alone, into another set up, and another lynch mob that barely paid lip service to human decency, let alone policy, fact or fairness.
2. I could walk away...but "in peace" would depend upon finding a very final way to communicate that I would never have any interest in participating again.

As for the more general issues, at this stage there is an horrific level of corruption, hedgemony and bullying going on within Wikipedia...

...but what on earth can you expect from any community of that size? Particularly where almost all power and influence is held by anononymous, and thus personally unaccountable, individuals.

It is a shame that the vaunted "community of Wikipedia" can never for real, and is, instead, an extension of every school yard in every corner of the world where any kid who didn't "fit in" or kiss ass nicely enough becomes "the target".

That is just a particularly disgusting, part of the human condition...somebody should at least WANT to fight it...but not me, single handed. I have served my time as a "warrrior for justice"...these days I prefer more spiritual outlets...ideally the kind that have designer items on sale...or shoes...really beautiful shoes with sky high heels...


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