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 Mantanmoreland Started the "Smear Campaign", not Bagley, But Playing Victim is what Team Liar does best on WP. |
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In Jan 2006 Mantanmoreland began posting on the "OSTK" board on yahoo finance as "lamborghini751", later "frankiedarrow" - note that Frankie Darro's historical relationship with "Mantan Moreland" in movies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantan_MorelandHis 3rd post was to promote GW's blog, which had begun its "Smear Campaign" against Byrne and others who "oppose naked short selling". http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(...591228946062834It's also the same time that GW started on WP under his first account, TomStoner http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...arget=Tomstoner which was shown in this later edit by Mantanmoreland to be a so far unacknowledged on WP sock of TomStoner (only LastExit is acknowledged by WP to be an official MM sock!) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&oldid=43586904 He started out relatively nice. Blog promotion, which was mainly to promote his forthcoming book. GW's goal is to counter "NSS is bad" proponents (like the SEC Chairman, LOL!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...ldid=116426524) and there was blog war before ASM, with GW vs "TheSanityCheck", run by a pseudonym "Bob O'Brien" who also tried to edit WP as "Boborbrien". His editing shows a high level of intelligence, writing talent, and subject matter knowledge, but he didn't even try to follow WP rules, so didn't last long and was easy pickings for GW to fend off. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BobobrienGW posted some really awful actual personal attacks against Patrick Byrne that were chock full of moral depravity. Demonstratable, as opposed to just the allegations of doing so kind: http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(...963549178705464______________________________________________________________ Yahoo! ID: frankiedarrow 20-Apr-06 ...incomprehensible Baloneyism first mouthed by the Baloney Sultan, Patrick "Trust Fund Bozo" Byrne. It is believed that the phallic-sounding nature of this baloneyism is related to the fact that Byrne only has one ball. ________________________________________________________________ This garbage about MM/Sami/et al being defenders against an O'stock backed "corporate smear campaign" against SV and GW is complete and utter diversionary nonsense. GW started both the blog war and the WP war. This post has been edited by Piperdown: Sun 30th September 2007, 12:51am |
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Whilst I understand what is going on in your post Piper, or at least I think I do, we're getting to stage where drive-by readers will need a full glossary of terms to understand the context of these Gary Weiss/Bagley posts. Could you perhaps provide some sort clarification, with links, to those out there who haven't a clue about GW, Byrne, MM/Sami/et al, SEC Chairman, SV and so on. Or instead perhaps add these new discoveries to threads which already contain expansions of the facts.
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QUOTE(Cedric @ Tue 2nd October 2007, 6:56pm)  Scipio Africanus was a Roman general. "Africanus" was not his real name, but an epithet applied to him after victories over the Carthaginian armies in the Second Punic War. The reason Weiss (or whoever this person is) calls himself "Scipio Africanus" is because one of Patrick Byrne's favorite usernames/aliases on the interwebs is "Hannibal." (We believe this may be him.) The real Scipio defeated the real Hannibal at the Battle of Zama, ending the Second Punic War (or was it the Third?) and ultimately leading to the destruction of Carthage, as well as the burning of my uncle's Chevy Malibu Classic. (Don't even ask...) Later, Hannibal reappeared in a Jodie_Foster movie as a violently psychopathic doctor who feeds on human flesh. Though confined to a maximum-security psychiatric facility, he managed to escape and find his way back to Italy, where he wreaked a terrible revenge on Giancarlo_Giannini, and later, Gary_Oldman and Ray_Liotta. We don't know whether or not Gary Weiss (or any of his sock puppets) tried to stop him at any point during this, but we suspect he didn't even lift a finger. |
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QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 3rd October 2007, 2:08am) QUOTE(Cedric @ Tue 2nd October 2007, 6:56pm) Scipio Africanus was a Roman general. "Africanus" was not his real name, but an epithet applied to him after victories over the Carthaginian armies in the Second Punic War. The reason Weiss (or whoever this person is) calls himself "Scipio Africanus" is because one of Patrick Byrne's favorite usernames/aliases on the interwebs is "Hannibal." (We believe this may be him.) The real Scipio defeated the real Hannibal at the Battle of Zama, ending the Second Punic War (or was it the Third?) and ultimately leading to the destruction of Carthage, as well as the burning of my uncle's Chevy Malibu Classic. (Don't even ask...) OK, that makes more sense. There was actually another Scipio Africanus who was a black servant to the Earl of Suffolk whom I heard about on the radio a while back ( DNB entry). There was a wreath laying ceremony at his tomb back in 2004 during Black History Month. |
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QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 3rd October 2007, 1:08am) QUOTE(Cedric @ Tue 2nd October 2007, 6:56pm) Scipio Africanus was a Roman general. "Africanus" was not his real name, but an epithet applied to him after victories over the Carthaginian armies in the Second Punic War. The reason Weiss (or whoever this person is) calls himself "Scipio Africanus" is because one of Patrick Byrne's favorite usernames/aliases on the interwebs is "Hannibal." (We believe this may be him.) The real Scipio defeated the real Hannibal at the Battle of Zama, ending the Second Punic War (or was it the Third?) and ultimately leading to the destruction of Carthage, as well as the burning of my uncle's Chevy Malibu Classic. (Don't even ask...) Later, Hannibal reappeared in a Jodie_Foster movie as a violently psychopathic doctor who feeds on human flesh. Though confined to a maximum-security psychiatric facility, he managed to escape and find his way back to Italy, where he wreaked a terrible revenge on Giancarlo_Giannini, and later, Gary_Oldman and Ray_Liotta. We don't know whether or not Gary Weiss (or any of his sock puppets) tried to stop him at any point during this, but we suspect he didn't even lift a finger.GW is not ScipioAfricanus, you guys really need to take a minute to peruse the ASM page, the Juddster gives a history lesson on the finer point differences between ScipioAfricanus and MantanBrooklynus, with his trademark proof for all to see. Something that wordbomb's "victims" decline to offer in response. Remember Baudy Moral Depravity = Objective Proof that makes Friends of Jimbo look badly You have to read Wikipedia with a rosetta stone. This post has been edited by Piperdown: Wed 3rd October 2007, 12:24pm |
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QUOTE(Cedric @ Sat 17th November 2007, 10:31pm) QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sat 17th November 2007, 12:39pm) Judd Bagley, according to David Gerard. hmmm...an anonymous WP username that has had a Real World Name placed in the edit summary blocking it. I think that's against Wikipedia's own rules. Quick, alert the Wikipedia Media. Whoops, that is Gerard. "It's good to be the Godking" - Jimbo "Mel Brooks" Wales "Mongo just pawn in game of wikipedia" - Mongo "MONGO" Mongo "Titties !!!" - Just the Head Dick Guy at Wikipedia |
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Why I believe Gary started his Blogjihad and Wikijihad Against Patrick Byrne in January 2006.
Beyond the obvious "Looking Out For #1" motivation, that Gary had a new book coming out in early 2006, and his blog and WP activity starting in Jan 2006 was #1 done to promote his book, his #2 (and also directly supporting contentions in his book) motivation(s) IMHO were this:
A google search and email tips have revealed the following facts -
1 - Gary and a columnist named Herb Greenberg have a long association together, including a year-2000 co-presentation they made concerning reporting on the stock market. Greenberg was working for "TheStreet.com" at the time, a website owned by Jim Cramer, and a friendly venue for columnist/hedge fund manager David Rocker, for one.
2 - Patrick Byrne has sued David Rocker, during which Jim Cramer and Herb Greenberg were served subpoenas by the SEC. They were not happy about this.
3 - Court documents in Byrne's suit reveal that Greenberg's name has been implicated by witnesses. For what exactly I'm not sure, but it didn't look good. Byrne has publicly called him "crooked" and not been sued by Greenberg, so that tells me something.
4 - IMHO, Gary's unprovoked blog/WP jihad against Byrne (neither had encountered each other prior to that, that I can find proof of) was a favour, for revenge, for his good friends/colleagues Greenberg and to some extent Cramer. More the former I would guess. The latter has moved on with his celebrity.
Byrne and Co. know a lot more about these things obviously, but as an outside googlesleuth, this is what I've come to believe is "Why the hell would Gary be doing this?"
Whether it's more than just journalism, and there's stock scheming that he might be directly or indirectly involved with, that's beyond the catalyst of what I think would take to motivate a person to do all this, and could very well be going on too.
But then I'm naive and tend to look for the relative-best in people's motives, and what can be more easily shown and explained. I wouldn't be suprised if my theory is being way too generous. Read this thread from the start and see just how vile Gary was from the get-go in Jan 2006.
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sat 29th September 2007, 11:56pm) In Jan 2006 Mantanmoreland began posting on the "OSTK" board on yahoo finance as "lamborghini751", later "frankiedarrow" - note that Frankie Darro's historical relationship with "Mantan Moreland" in movies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantan_MorelandGW posted some really awful actual personal attacks against Patrick Byrne that were chock full of moral depravity. Demonstratable, as opposed to just the allegations of doing so kind: http://messages.finance.yahoo.com/Stocks_(...963549178705464______________________________________________________________ Yahoo! ID: frankiedarrow 20-Apr-06 ...incomprehensible Baloneyism first mouthed by the Baloney Sultan, Patrick "Trust Fund Bozo" Byrne. It is believed that the phallic-sounding nature of this baloneyism is related to the fact that Byrne only has one ball. ________________________________________________________________ QUOTE
Yahoo Finance
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Yahoo! ID: frankiedarrow 11-Nov-06 01:24 pm
Anyone want to be the miserable crook who runs this POS? I thought not.
CORRECTION: Crazy Paddy=OSTK @ 0
frankiedarrow 10-Nov-06 04:27 pm
Re: Weiss is award winning journalist
The cyberstalker site is obviously written by Trust Fund Bozo himself.
frankiedarrow 29-Sep-06 07:53 am
Only seven posts on the kool aid board 25-Jul-06 12:46 pm
They must be swigging it down. Maybe Crazy Patty can come on in and tell 'em he's going after the miscreants "slow." Sure, he'll still be doing that when he is at minus-18.
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