SlimVirgin editing, publicity stunt ended, There never was any intention of leaving really, too addicted... Options

[Sgrayban]

Maybe so.... but she is just a very mean person to everyone on WP.... calling them names when they disagree with her... banning them or getting other admin to ban them. She twisted the policies to make it fit her hate of a editor. The word "fair" is not a word she uses.


If she is really a "virgin" then her outright hate of people would be right on target. Why the hell would anyone want to be around a person that is so hateful. My pecker would crawl back inside and hide.

[The Adversary]

#103: http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=10148
(#118. http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=10200)
#125: http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...indpost&p=10226

It is SV´s first quote in #103 that I thought fitted very well with the info Daniel Brandt just gave us.

PS: It seems I was pretty much on target in post #118

I still think you're running up the wrong tree thinking she's anti Jewish or anti Israeli- do you think Jayjg and IZAK would be best buddies with her if she was? Just because she thinks the wrong people were blamed for Lockerbie doesn't say anything about her position on Jewish or Israeli matters , it just means that she wants the people who were really responsible for her friends death to be held accountable for it.

I hope you don´t include me among those who think SV is anti Jewish or anti Israeli?? Read my above post #125 again, please.
I have from the very beginning found both SV and Jayjg (ant lots of others) to be extremely pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian. Those who think SV is anti-Israeli do not (as far as I know) edit on Israel/Palestine issues.

[jorge]

I hope you don´t include me among those who think SV is anti Jewish or anti Israeli?? Read my above post #125 again, please.
I have from the very beginning found both SV and Jayjg (ant lots of others) to be extremely pro-Israeli and anti-Palestinian. Those who think SV is anti-Israeli do not (as far as I know) edit on Israel/Palestine issues.

sorry you're right I was reading a quote in your post written by someone else

[Sgrayban]

Turning the blame to the US is POV.... There is no evidence that this was ever proven. The facts remain that Pan Am 301 crashed from a bomb... SV's edits ASSERT'S HER POV not facts cite by Governments or certified sources. So her edits do reflect the Jewish Community based on this.

And its EXTREMELY POV when she allows her feelings of a loss to run her editing on this subject.... common sense here people.

[jorge]

Turning the blame to the US is POV.... There is no evidence that this was ever proven. The facts remain that Pan Am 301 crashed from a bomb... SV's edits ASSERT'S HER POV not facts cite by Governments or certified sources. So her edits do reflect the Jewish Community based on this.

And its EXTREMELY POV when she allows her feelings of a loss to run her editing on this subject.... common sense here people.

I don't think she ever blamed the US, she just believes (I think) that it was the Iranians who did it not the Libyans.

This post has been edited by jorge: Thu 8th June 2006, 1:55pm

[The Adversary]

[...]
And its EXTREMELY POV when she allows her feelings of a loss to run her editing on this subject.... common sense here people.

Sure, I don´t have any argument with that. (Though SV surely would! She always claim she is NPOV)

..this is actually a common problem: the issues you know a lot about are often issues you also feel strongly about.

This post has been edited by Surfer: Thu 8th June 2006, 1:58pm

[Sgrayban]

Turning the blame to the US is POV.... There is no evidence that this was ever proven. The facts remain that Pan Am 301 crashed from a bomb... SV's edits ASSERT'S HER POV not facts cite by Governments or certified sources. So her edits do reflect the Jewish Community based on this.

And its EXTREMELY POV when she allows her feelings of a loss to run her editing on this subject.... common sense here people.

I don't think she ever blamed the US, she just believes (I think) that it was the Iranians who did it not the Libyans.

Actually she did blame the US ..... search the forum for "27 years" -- I made a paste of what she actually edited. It was clearly POV written on HER FEELINGS. Not cited as required or sourced. It's speculative and it still remains that way to this day.

She even said the man that was sent to prison for murder in Scotland was inocent. Speculative, unsourced, no cite. Writen on and by feelings. It is so POV is sucks.

The post is -> http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showt...148&#entry10148

[jorge]

Turning the blame to the US is POV.... There is no evidence that this was ever proven. The facts remain that Pan Am 301 crashed from a bomb... SV's edits ASSERT'S HER POV not facts cite by Governments or certified sources. So her edits do reflect the Jewish Community based on this.

And its EXTREMELY POV when she allows her feelings of a loss to run her editing on this subject.... common sense here people.

I don't think she ever blamed the US, she just believes (I think) that it was the Iranians who did it not the Libyans.

Actually she did blame the US ..... search the forum for "27 years" -- I made a paste of what she actually edited. It was clearly POV written on HER FEELINGS. Not cited as required or sourced. It's speculative and it still remains that way to this day.

She even said the man that was sent to prison for murder in Scotland was inocent. Speculative, unsourced, no cite. Writen on and by feelings. It is so POV is sucks.

The post is -> http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showt...148&#entry10148

I'm not sure how that post says she blamed the U.S. just that she thinks there was a miscarriage of justice. I think we need to cool down on saying SV is an anti semite/anti American/Israeli secret agent/whatever, she is a bad adminstrator yes but not those things.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

hmm Cambridge Conversazione Society is like the Skull & Bones here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

Yes, this is true, but I urge you to avoid the common error of the conspiracy theorist, which is to begin compiling lists of persons who belong to these clubs. The significance lies rather in the mindset of people who are attracted to this sort of social environment; you can characterize the typical member, or wannabe, as someone who prides themselves on being very clever and amoral, and revels in exerting power over those lower-ranking mortals who are too slow-witted or sincere to move in such circles. I think that this description might also apply, occasionally, to members of the Wikipedia Cabal.

I hope you don´t include me among those who think SV is anti Jewish or anti Israeli?? Read my above post #125 again, please.

I think that the whole issue of whether SlimVirgin is pro- or anti-Jewish is a red herring. I'll explain why.

Let's assume, for argument's sake, that this whole Cambridge Apostles business indicates that SV is totally impressed with these gangs of putative intellectuals who dominate foreign policy for the UK and Commonwealth countries. What is their relationship to the Jewish community? Historically, the British establishment was more than a little anti-Semitic, but then they turned around and produced the Balfour Declaration -- not out of remorse, but because they saw an opportunity to use Jews to further their geopolitical interests in the Mideast and elsewhere. Now, let's consider their relationship to Islam. The largest library of Islamic literature in the world is at Oxford. Does this indicate a particular reverence or respect for Islam by the British establishment? Hardly. They also had the intention to manipulate Muslims for geopolitical purposes (I could suggest that you read the Wikipedia article on Bernard Lewis, but that article is so sanitized as to be completely uninformative. And, not surprisingly, I find SlimVirgin among the contributors in the edit history.)

[Sgrayban]

Every country has its black history, the American's put the Japanese American's in "Camps" during WW2 then turned around and demanded that all male Japanese American's serve in the US Army when the US found out they were running out of live bodies. That's using them for there own gain wouldn't you agree ?

You will find this subject so sanatized on WP it makes the US look like angel's. Yet facts and cited sources say otherwise.

For instance in my town, Spokane, WA we had such a "camp".... and even here its so sanatized its not even funny.

[Sgrayban]

Actually she did blame the US ..... search the forum for "27 years" -- I made a paste of what she actually edited. It was clearly POV written on HER FEELINGS. Not cited as required or sourced. It's speculative and it still remains that way to this day.

She even said the man that was sent to prison for murder in Scotland was inocent. Speculative, unsourced, no cite. Writen on and by feelings. It is so POV is sucks.

The post is -> http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showt...148&#entry10148

I'm not sure how that post says she blamed the U.S. just that she thinks there was a miscarriage of justice. I think we need to cool down on saying SV is an anti semite/anti American/Israeli secret agent/whatever, she is a bad adminstrator yes but not those things.

You're not sure? Hmmm I thought the bold would show that....

America's second deadliest attack against civilians

Looks pretty bold and plain there to me....

That's what's very annoying about this, and why I see it as disrupting Wikipedia to make a point. I'm trying to write an article about a long, complicated, unpleasant business, which killed 270 people directly; which was triggered by attacks on Libya or Iran, and possibly both, which killed hundreds; which indirectly led to the deaths of many hundreds, and possibly thousands, of Libyans, because of UN sanctions against Libya, which led to things like planes crashing because of the lack of spare parts; and which may have led to a miscarriage of justice which has put a man in jail for 27 years. Not to mention that it was the UK's largest and most expensive criminal inquiry ever, America's second deadliest attack against civilians, and the only UK trial that I'm aware of to have taken place on foreign soil. All big issues. And yet I'm having to spend all my time on it discussing what a ton is, and whether people know what miles are. SlimVirgin (talk) 02:13, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

And of course she FAILS 100% to prove and cite/source her claims. They of course are POV based on her feelings of losing a friend. Its rational POV to her but irrational when no source backs this.

[jorge]

You're not sure? Hmmm I thought the bold would show that....

America's second deadliest attack against civilians

Looks pretty bold and plain there to me....

Er I think "America's second deadliest attack against civilians" referred to Lockerbie as the second deadliest attack on American civilians after 911?

[guy]

Er I think "America's second deadliest attack against civilians" referred to Lockerbie as the second deadliest attack on American civilians after 911?

Is that what she said? It's not what the quote seems to say.

[jorge]

Er I think "America's second deadliest attack against civilians" referred to Lockerbie as the second deadliest attack on American civilians after 911?

Is that what she said? It's not what the quote seems to say.

I am certain she meant "the second deadliest attack against American civilians", not "the second deadliest attack by America against civilians" as Lockerbie is the former not the latter. The two deadliest attacks against civilians by America are Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

This post has been edited by jorge: Thu 8th June 2006, 7:22pm

[Poetlister]

SlimVirgin is an immensely experienced Wikipedia editor, and apparently one of the best editors. Why are we guessing what she might mean? Surely someone of her calibre is writing clear, unambiguous English.

[Sgrayban]

She POV edits.... and when a editor comes along and disputes her edits she goes off on them calling them trolls and even stalks them on their talk pages. I have seen how she acts.... It's a kiddie temper and she flings names at them like a 5 year in a sandbox. I honestly do not see her with having any friends IRL. Might be why she edits on WP so much.

Many times she edits with ZERO source cited.

@jorge.... It's a direct quote from the talk page..... She knows exactly what she writes at all times. Even knows how to write her comments to gain favour. I highly doubt she meant it any different then what she wrote. SV wrote that coming from a personal POV because she lost a friend on it and blames everyone for it.

[jorge]

@jorge.... It's a direct quote from the talk page..... She knows exactly what she writes at all times. Even knows how to write her comments to gain favour. I highly doubt she meant it any different then what she wrote. SV wrote that coming from a personal POV because she lost a friend on it and blames everyone for it.

Sgrayban I know you want to believe bad stuff about SV, but this just isn't true. It just isn't conceivable that with SV's obvious academic qualifications that she would think that Lockerbie and 911 were America's biggest attack on civilians, not knowing that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were by far the biggest attack on civilians by America.

[Sgrayban]

I go by what I see and read... If she is such a well educated female she is a disgrace to the female race. No matter what anyone wants to see about her. If you want to see just the few things good then you are misleading your ownself.

Come on... lets not get personal feelings in the way... you might like her but the overall actions of her is very immature. Calling editors trolls? Just because they disagree with her is way out of line by anyone let alone SV with her massive upper/class education. Even the upper/class of educated Brit's would snub there noses at her.

[Slattern]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SlimVirgin?limit=100 (note she didn't go for more than 2 days without editing...)

I saved your userpage for you at http://wikipediareview.com/slimvirgin SV, you can restore it now this whole temper tantrum is over and you got what you wanted...

http://dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=slimvirgin.com

Honestly tho, was there ever any doubt she'd be back? Unlike Katesfan0 who left immediately and quietly SV made such a song and dance (comparatively) that I had little doubt she'd return. Tho admittedly not this quickly.