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> Vijay Bahadur Singh, How Wikipedia fails to protect articles from libellous additions
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Vijay Bahadur Singh a one sentence BLP article. An experiment ensues.

On April 2 I added this piece of libel, on April 4 I added yet more libel. For both pieces of libel a reference was added, a quick check would have shown that the references were bogus, this didn't happen, even though "(Tag: possible BLP issue or vandalism)" appeared as an edit summary after the first addition of libel.

Part two: Removal of the libel.

I created the account User:Wawawaer and removed the libel, this was reverted as vandalism. After removing the content a couple more times, (once with the edit summary "remove lies") Wawawaer is of course blocked for edit warring. At no time does the blocking admin seem to have done a basic check to see if the information was indeed lies, he just restored the libel to the article.

So in summary, an anon ip adds two bits of badly sourced libel to a BLP

A new editor tries to remove the libel

The new editor is blocked for edit warring and the libel is restored to the BLP.

This is the essence of Wikipedia's systemic failure when it comes to showing due dilligence as regards BLPs. Poorly sourced controversial additions go unchallenged, removal of these additions results in a block.

Wikipedia actively protects libellous content.
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Wed 6th April 2011, 8:37pm) *

I created the account User:Wawawaer and removed the libel, this was reverted as vandalism. After removing the content a couple more times, (once with the edit summary "remove lies") Wawawaer is of course blocked for edit warring. At no time does the blocking admin seem to have done a basic check to see if the information was indeed lies, he just restored the libel to the article.


Well, C. Fred is strictly C-minus when it comes to brainpower. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

QUOTE(RMHED @ Wed 6th April 2011, 8:37pm) *

The new editor is blocked for edit warring and the libel is restored to the BLP.


But only for 31 hours. Once the block is lifted, you are free to run amok! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)


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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 6th April 2011, 6:02pm) *

QUOTE(RMHED @ Wed 6th April 2011, 8:37pm) *

I created the account User:Wawawaer and removed the libel, this was reverted as vandalism. After removing the content a couple more times, (once with the edit summary "remove lies") Wawawaer is of course blocked for edit warring. At no time does the blocking admin seem to have done a basic check to see if the information was indeed lies, he just restored the libel to the article.


Well, C. Fred is strictly C-minus when it comes to brainpower. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Now, now, read the link and don't believe everything some WR person tells you, even if it is RMHED. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Wawawaer

C. Fred's block summary reads: (Disruptive editing: Intentional gaming of the system to put false material into articles). In other words, he called THIS one perfectly right, and the block was NOT for edit warring. Unless he reads WR and went back and changed his reason, of course. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Wed 6th April 2011, 7:10pm) *
Unless he reads WR and went back and changed his reason, of course.

Got it right in one! Look at the timestamps -- the revdels and the block are clearly a result of this thread.
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Jasper Deng, the principle libel-protector in this case, has gone completely berzerk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=422796373

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Like many accidents, this is a failure of multiple parts, chain-reaction style, not just one key part. Mind you, Jasper Deng is clearly the weak link in this chain, but C. Fred or any admin should not be trusting other editors carry out due diligence work re: BLP.
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QUOTE(taiwopanfob @ Wed 6th April 2011, 10:46pm) *

Jasper Deng, the principle libel-protector in this case, has gone completely berzerk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=422796373

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Like many accidents, this is a failure of multiple parts, chain-reaction style, not just one key part. Mind you, Jasper Deng is clearly the weak link in this chain, but C. Fred or any admin should not be trusting other editors carry out due diligence work re: BLP.


Come on, it is no secret that Lar and RMHED are one and the same person. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)
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RMHED   Vijay Bahadur Singh  
RMHED   I created the account User:Wawawaer and removed ...  
A Horse With No Name   Unless he reads WR and went back and changed his ...  
Lar   Jasper Deng, the principle libel-protector in thi...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='taiwopanfob' post='272267' date='Wed...  
Lar   And maybe some admins who shouldn't be admins...  
gomi   Wait... why do you say that about C. Fred. Goes of...  
Gruntled   Jasper Deng, the principle libel-protector in thi...  
taiwopanfob   C. Fred's block summary reads: [b](Disruptive...  
EricBarbour   On April 2 I added this piece of [url=http://en.wi...  
taiwopanfob   [quote name='RMHED' post='272253' date='Wed 6th A...  
EricBarbour   That's your Wikipedia, Lar. If you really c...  
EricBarbour   And I called that correctly. Jasper is, in fact, ...  
Silver seren   Wait, isn't Jasper Deng... *checks* Yep, he...  
thekohser   Vijay Bahadur Singh a one sentence BLP article. A...  
melloden   Jasper Deng ... the epitome of fucking dumbass wik...  
Sxeptomaniac   Jasper Deng ... the epitome of fucking dumbass wi...  
Alison   [quote name='melloden' post='272307' date='Thu 7t...  
melloden   Jasper Deng ... the epitome of fucking dumbass w...  
jayvdb   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Bahadur_...  
Jack Merridew   [quote name='RMHED' post='272253' date='Wed 6th ...  
A Horse With No Name   well *you're* never getting in aboveboard; th...  
A Horse With No Name   As usual, the Wikipedia Panto winds up with variou...  
Sxeptomaniac   No shocker in any of this. WP has encouraged edit ...  
thekohser   Jasper's chess club page shows that he's v...  
Jack Merridew   This was all rather amusing; not as amusing as Hor...  
A Horse With No Name   This was all rather amusing; not as amusing as Ho...  
thekohser   [quote name='Jack Merridew' post='272345' date='F...  
A Horse With No Name   This is further proof that Wikipedia's dysfunc...  
EricBarbour   Yeah, that was a good 10-month gallop as Regent. O...  
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