The TimidGuy case, aye, there's the rub Options

[Ego Trippin' (Part Two)]

Mr. Beback, who normally edits around the clock, ceased editing 11 minutes after leaving this comment. He may be seeing the handwriting on the wall.

This is rich. That was some "typo"!

[radek]

Mr. Beback, who normally edits around the clock, ceased editing 11 minutes after leaving this comment. He may be seeing the handwriting on the wall.

Good gravy, they're even considering whether to ban him. If arbcom keeps this up, we'll run out of things to talk about around here!

The Encyclopedia Eats Its Own Children

[RMHED]

Mr. Beback, who normally edits around the clock, ceased editing 11 minutes after leaving this comment. He may be seeing the handwriting on the wall.

Good gravy, they're even considering whether to ban him. If arbcom keeps this up, we'll run out of things to talk about around here!

The Encyclopedia Eats Its Own Children

They'll need a lot of ketchup with Will to mask that bitter taste.

[that one guy]

He's definitely losing his admin and being banned from TM articles. Courcelles puts it nicely when he proposed the ban, there's a "Super Mario Problem" in that admins get desysoped first, then banned later.

[It's the blimp, Frank]

Looks like he just crossed the "desysop" threshold.

[lilburne]

Yep Admin bit gone. Meanwhile teetering on TM ban, site ban climbing.

This post has been edited by lilburne: Tue 21st February 2012, 6:33pm

[Vigilant]

Yep Admin bit gone. Meanwhile teetering on TM ban, site ban climbing.

It's so funny how Catholic-esque(medieval) wikipedia is.
The self flagellation, the kissing of the ring, the confession, the scourging, etc.

WP:ANI is the starting point and the I stands for Inquisition rather than Incidents.
WP:AnotherNastyInquisition

The choir boys are sent home from confessional with 10 Hail Marys, the "currently-out-of-favor" are excommunicated and flogged while the "not-of-the-body" are crucified.

The whole thing is The Children's Crusade done online.

[lilburne]

Yep Admin bit gone. Meanwhile teetering on TM ban, site ban climbing.

It's so funny how Catholic-esque(medieval) wikipedia is.
The self flagellation, the kissing of the ring, the confession, the scourging, etc.

WP:ANI is the starting point and the I stands for Inquisition rather than Incidents.
WP:AnotherNastyInquisition

The choir boys are sent home from confessional with 10 Hail Marys, the "currently-out-of-favor" are excommunicated and flogged while the "not-of-the-body" are crucified.

The whole thing is The Children's Crusade done online.

Shall we see if we can save him, for old times sake?

[Zoloft]

I don't believe Will wants our sympathy or assistance. Just a belief, of course, and possibly wrong.

[gomi]

I don't believe Will wants our sympathy or assistance. Just a belief, of course, and possibly wrong.

He would, of course, be welcomed here as a member. He could go toe to toe with Hersch, if Will is man enough, and I would stand as umpire, as long as he gets that WP:CIVIL (or whatever is) no defense (or offense) here.

[EricBarbour]

It's so funny how Catholic-esque(medieval) wikipedia is.
The self flagellation, the kissing of the ring, the confession, the scourging, etc.

And all of it long after the actual sins were committed.....
the hellstorm happens, and Arbcom sits on their hands, until years later.

3) The community is encouraged to open a Request for comment on the "Conflicts of Interest" guideline with a view to reconciling some of the apparent contradictions discussed in the applicable finding of fact above.

Oh yeah, that's a great idea.

He would, of course, be welcomed here as a member.

Of course, although I think the likelihood of that happening is on a par with the chances of the sun exploding in the next 5 minutes.

He is, unquestionably, one of Wikipedia's most intractable, evil content-controllers. His history needs to be preserved so others can see what being a manipulative, obsessed maniac actually accomplishes.

Now I have to go and update his wiki article.

(You folks do realize he's just going to go back to the same old thing, pwning the same articles, once this blows over?
He's still fucking around on the Lyndon LaRouche talkpage. He needs to be locked up, not "topic-banned".)

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Tue 21st February 2012, 10:06pm

[Herschelkrustofsky]

He is, unquestionably, one of Wikipedia's most intractable, evil content-controllers. His history needs to be preserved so others can see what being a manipulative, obsessed maniac actually accomplishes.

Now I have to go and update his wiki article.

(You folks do realize he's just going to go back to the same old thing, pwning the same articles, once this blows over?
He's still fucking around on the Lyndon LaRouche talkpage. He needs to be locked up, not "topic-banned".)

Memo to any Arbs who are reading this -- if it's not too late to modify the text, it would make a ton of sense for the proposed topic ban on "New Religions articles, broadly construed" to be expanded to include "LaRouche-related political articles," because Will exhibits exactly the same sort of WP:BATTLEGROUND and gaming-the-system behavior there as he does with Prem Rawat etc.

[SB_Johnny]

He is, unquestionably, one of Wikipedia's most intractable, evil content-controllers. His history needs to be preserved so others can see what being a manipulative, obsessed maniac actually accomplishes.

Now I have to go and update his wiki article.

(You folks do realize he's just going to go back to the same old thing, pwning the same articles, once this blows over?
He's still fucking around on the Lyndon LaRouche talkpage. He needs to be locked up, not "topic-banned".)

Memo to any Arbs who are reading this -- if it's not too late to modify the text, it would make a ton of sense for the proposed topic ban on "New Religions articles, broadly construed" to be expanded to include "LaRouche-related political articles," because Will exhibits exactly the same sort of WP:BATTLEGROUND and gaming-the-system behavior there as he does with Prem Rawat etc.

They're probably saving that for the ban discussion after people get used to him not being Super Mario any more.

[EricBarbour]

More like Sonic the Hiking Hedgehog

[iii]

He is, unquestionably, one of Wikipedia's most intractable, evil content-controllers. His history needs to be preserved so others can see what being a manipulative, obsessed maniac actually accomplishes.

Now I have to go and update his wiki article.

(You folks do realize he's just going to go back to the same old thing, pwning the same articles, once this blows over?
He's still fucking around on the Lyndon LaRouche talkpage. He needs to be locked up, not "topic-banned".)

Memo to any Arbs who are reading this -- if it's not too late to modify the text, it would make a ton of sense for the proposed topic ban on "New Religions articles, broadly construed" to be expanded to include "LaRouche-related political articles," because Will exhibits exactly the same sort of WP:BATTLEGROUND and gaming-the-system behavior there as he does with Prem Rawat etc.

They're probably saving that for the ban discussion after people get used to him not being Super Mario any more.

The discussion here is too weird for me for the following reasons:

1. Will Beback is a Wikipedian not unlike any other Wikipedian on Wikipedia. He may be more adept at game-playing than others, but he's still a Wikipedian. Just a Wikipedian.
2. There is this weird attribution of superpowers to Will Beback which I can't follow. It's like he single-handedly made Wikipedia suck for a good portion of people active here. While I sympathize with those who dislike their nemeses, the guy is still just one Wikipedian (see 1).
3. There is this assumption that Arbcom is somehow sympathetic to the peanut gallery's analysis here. I think arbcom is just upset that Will Beback discovered a loophole and cleverly exploited it. If they had any courage, they'd have made a finding that criticized Jimbo Wales handling of the case. Instead, there's this weird "principle". This rather strikes me as similar to the ineffectual rulings made by some disenfranchised judge in a corrupt banana republic.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Will Beback is a Wikipedian not unlike any other Wikipedian on Wikipedia. He may be more adept at game-playing than others, but he's still a Wikipedian. Just a Wikipedian.

Granted, but he has worked hard to attain the celebrity status that he enjoys at the Review. He's not the only one -- you can glance over the past several years of pageants to see some of the truly stellar Wikipedians that we have honored here. You should have been here during SlimVirgin's heyday. But regarding Will, it's not just that he is a clever game-player. It's that he does it with such inimitable panache.

[Cla68]

Will Beback is a Wikipedian not unlike any other Wikipedian on Wikipedia. He may be more adept at game-playing than others, but he's still a Wikipedian. Just a Wikipedian.

Granted, but he has worked hard to attain the celebrity status that he enjoys at the Review. He's not the only one -- you can glance over the past several years of pageants to see some of the truly stellar Wikipedians that we have honored here. You should have been here during SlimVirgin's heyday. But regarding Will, it's not just that he is a clever game-player. It's that he does it with such inimitable panache.

Will Beback will often do whatever it takes to get his way in a topic or article. See, for example, how he tried to manipulate my Climate Change ban here to get me kicked off the LaRouche articles because I was getting in his way. In my opinion, Will Beback is one of the last of WP's old guard cabal whose defining characteristic was that they believed that their way, or their content, were the best things for Wikipedia and were willing, and often able, to do whatever it took to get their way.

[iii]

But regarding Will, it's not just that he is a clever game-player. It's that he does it with such inimitable panache.

You're positively gushing. It's almost like, wait... could it possibly be?... are you jealous?

Nah....

Will Beback will often do whatever it takes to get his way in a topic or article.

But can you blame him? I mean, the goal of Wikipedia is to win, isn't it? If that means stretching a ruling to the point of its breaking to aid in your victory, that's what it means, right?

This post has been edited by iii: Wed 22nd February 2012, 3:07pm

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Right.

[Ego Trippin' (Part Two)]

Lest it be overshadowed by the infighting here on WR.

The desysop has been passing for a few days now, but as of today so is the topic ban from new religious movements. And, astonishingly, the indefinite site-ban is only two votes away from passing. It probably wouldn't have gone this way for Will if he had admitted the impropriety of his actions the way Cirt did.