Where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues or admin abuse? Options Rating

[Cock-up-over-conspiracy]

One question please,

• where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues about an admin's background and behavior or admin abuse?

Its interesting. I have been probing this one a little bit.

It strikes me that far worse that being an absolute POV loon gaming the wiki, a trivia buff filling it with crufts, or even a puppeteer of 10,000 disguises ... attempting to seriously question, or demonstrate systemic failures within the Wikipedia, or the background, behavior and actions of the chosen few, is dealt with far more quickly and severely. Especially if it is stating the evident and obvious!

Please excuse me if I am new to all this discussion, state the obvious or this has already been covered.

It seems to be that there is no specific page to address admin or bureaucrat abuse.

Where is the best page to place a critique so that it is seen my the most and most influential individuals?

Interestingly, I have discovered that placing well presented pieces on the Jimbo Wales talk page will not only lead to them being deleted ... but even erased from its history as if it was never made.

Excuse my naivety, but it is also obvious that little cliques of admins are looking after each other even though their actions are plainly contrary to the most basic editorial policies.

[Kelly Martin]

where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues about an admin's background and behavior or admin abuse?

Probably here on Wikipedia Review. Attempting to raise such issues on Wikipedia proper is likely to get you banned in short order.

[tarantino]

Welcome CUOC. I'll second Kelly.

If you have no power on Wikipedia, you're more likely to get a positive response after posting a legitimate complaint here. Most everybody of influence on Wikipedia either participates, reads or has provocative Wikipedia Review threads reported to them.

[Cedric]

Where is the best page to place a critique so that it is seen my the most and most influential individuals?

Interestingly, I have discovered that placing well presented pieces on the Jimbo Wales talk page will not only lead to them being deleted ... but even erased from its history as if it was never made.

Excuse my naivety, but it is also obvious that little cliques of admins are looking after each other even though their actions are plainly contrary to the most basic editorial policies.

Once upon a time, I was invited to give comment on Jimbo's talk page, an invitation which I declined because by that time I finally realized the futility thereof. Instead, I promptly buggered off Wikipedia, which, for me at least, was the only mentally healthy response left.

Welcome, Cock-up-over-conspiracy, to Wikipedia Review.

[Eppur si muove]

One question please,

• where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues about an admin's background and behavior or admin abuse?

Its interesting. I have been probing this one a little bit.

It strikes me that far worse that being an absolute POV loon gaming the wiki, a trivia buff filling it with crufts, or even a puppeteer of 10,000 disguises ... attempting to seriously question, or demonstrate systemic failures within the Wikipedia, or the background, behavior and actions of the chosen few, is dealt with far more quickly and severely. Especially if it is stating the evident and obvious!

Please excuse me if I am new to all this discussion, state the obvious or this has already been covered.

It seems to be that there is no specific page to address admin or bureaucrat abuse.

Where is the best page to place a critique so that it is seen my the most and most influential individuals?

Interestingly, I have discovered that placing well presented pieces on the Jimbo Wales talk page will not only lead to them being deleted ... but even erased from its history as if it was never made.

Excuse my naivety, but it is also obvious that little cliques of admins are looking after each other even though their actions are plainly contrary to the most basic editorial policies.

Please tell me that this isn't about Gwen Gale.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues about an admin's background and behavior or admin abuse?

Probably here on Wikipedia Review. Attempting to raise such issues on Wikipedia proper is likely to get you banned in short order.

Well put. If you want to call your opinion to the attention of influentials, you may use the Aministrators' Noticeboard, where it will be treated as an urgent request to be banned.

[Moulton]

According to an expert on this question, the best place to put a complaint about the profound lack of professional ethics on Wikipedia is on the Op-Ed page of USA Today.

[EricBarbour]

Don't forget to send your evidence to Cade Metz at the Register.....

[quanta]

Don't forget to send your evidence to Cade Metz at the Register.....

It depends if your a admin or a offical then your point will be heard otherwise just keep silent

[Son of a Yeti]

where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues about an admin's background and behavior or admin abuse?

Probably here on Wikipedia Review. Attempting to raise such issues on Wikipedia proper is likely to get you banned in short order.

I second this. Actually I wanted to give the same reply when I saw the thread title.

Nowadays it's dangerous even to comment on AN/I if you are a mere mortal.

[quanta]

where is the best place on the Wikipedia to raise ethical issues about an admin's background and behavior or admin abuse?

Probably here on Wikipedia Review. Attempting to raise such issues on Wikipedia proper is likely to get you banned in short order.

I second this. Actually I wanted to give the same reply when I saw the thread title.

Nowadays it's dangerous even to comment on AN/I if you are a mere mortal.

You will get blocked just for reporting

This post has been edited by quanta: Thu 2nd April 2009, 7:32am

[Emperor]

Go to other websites. If it's really important to you, there are plenty of places you can post your information.

Spend an hour posting it everywhere you can think, rather than 10 hours bellyaching on Wikipedia.