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QUOTE(Doc glasgow @ Mon 30th November 2009, 8:10pm) QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 30th November 2009, 7:47pm)
Still, what fun! But are radio button polls the only format supported by this site?
Yes, 'tis a pity we can't have a multi-option mimic of the arbcom poll I guess you could re-do with buttons for each candidate in a separate section e.g. QUOTE Kurt Weber [x] support [   ] oppose Or maybe just "not support" if the actual ballot has no "oppose" option, shrug.
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Assuming they're telling the truth about electing eight people, vote AGK, Bauder, Hersfold, Secret, Seddon, Shell Kinney, Unomi and Connelly. An Arbcom with a clear majority of undoubted nutjobs will hasten the day in which what laughably passes for a Wikipedia governance process chokes on its own vomit, and the WMF is forced to bite the bullet and replace the ridiculous psuedo-masonic hierarchy with a properly constituted board of governors.
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:12pm) Assuming they're telling the truth about electing eight people, vote AGK, Bauder, Hersfold, Secret, Seddon, Shell Kinney, Unomi and Connelly. Any chance you'd explain your "endorsements" of AGK, Hersfold, and Seddon? I don't know much about any of them, and am still considering whether to support them. Also, by your criteria why not Kurt or RMHED (the second of whom seem pretty intelligent, but also doesn't seem likely to facilitate effective conflict resolution)?
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QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Tue 1st December 2009, 1:19am) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 30th November 2009, 10:12pm) Assuming they're telling the truth about electing eight people, vote AGK, Bauder, Hersfold, Secret, Seddon, Shell Kinney, Unomi and Connelly. Any chance you'd explain your "endorsements" of AGK, Hersfold, and Seddon? I don't know much about any of them, and am still considering whether to support them. Also, by your criteria why not Kurt or RMHED (the second of whom seem pretty intelligent, but also doesn't seem likely to facilitate effective conflict resolution)? AGK is a reincarnation of Anthony cfc (T-C-L-K-R-D)
, and I can't do better at summing up the problem than the oppose section of his RFA did. Sure, it was two years ago, but I see no evidence that this isn't the latest manifestation of the same "I want every job going because I'm so important" shtick. Hersfold may be great for all I know; what I do know is that when I was on Wikipedia I got around a lot, and never once saw him in any context other than throwing himself into an argument regardless of whether it related to him in any way. Regarding Seddon, I direct you to toolserver, and once you've looked at that, give me your opinion whether this is someone likely to defuse drama. Besides, this is someone taking the process so seriously that at the time of writing, he hasn't bothered to answer a single question. No point voting for Kurt and RHMED other than the lulz value of seeing them top the poll (don't worry, I'm doing my damndest to get them there; Horsey, Undertow, Peter, you might want to join me in this one). Even if they win, Jimbo will just veto them.
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Having been repeatedly burned by voting for bad candidates in the past, my support votes this year will be based strictly on clear pledges made by the candidates. Candidates can receive my support by making pledges on one of two issues: they can pledge to conduct all or nearly all of their arbitration-related deliberations on-wiki and to promote ArbCom transparency in general, or they can pledge to help me get my own case reviewed and my restrictions lifted. AGK made a transparently-related pledge, so I'm planning to vote for him. As far as I know, no other candidate has made a pledge on either of the issues, so I will vote for none of them unless they do. QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 1st December 2009, 2:35am) I'd vote for Steve Smith (WR's Sarcasticidealist.) He's pro-Wikipedian but he thinks better than rest of this rabble. Someday he'll flip sides and become a critic. I've noticed that being on ArbCom has had an effect One too. Mostly in tone and mostly taking form of impatience. He could eventually get things right too. I'll bet half of PETA once worked in meat packing.
One/CHL is one of the saddest cases I've seen. He was a promising candidate, but as an arbitrator, he's ceased to represent any sort of critical or reformist perspective. Do you suppose being on the secret mailing list has done that to him? Special privileges can have that effect on people...when you get special privileges, it's easy to start thinking that things really aren't so bad after all, and people need to stop whining.
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QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 30th November 2009, 7:19pm) why not Kurt or RMHED (the second of whom seem pretty intelligent
(emphasis mine) Excuse me?
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 30th November 2009, 8:12pm) Assuming they're telling the truth about electing eight people, vote AGK, Bauder, Hersfold, Secret, Seddon, Shell Kinney, Unomi and Connelly. An Arbcom with a clear majority of undoubted nutjobs will hasten the day in which what laughably passes for a Wikipedia governance process chokes on its own vomit, and the WMF is forced to bite the bullet and replace the ridiculous psuedo-masonic hierarchy with a properly constituted board of governors.
Yes. See my thread from last year.
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QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Mon 30th November 2009, 7:57pm) QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 30th November 2009, 7:19pm) why not Kurt or RMHED (the second of whom seem pretty intelligent
(emphasis mine) Excuse me? You blew it with the Rand-pushing. To steal a simile from Einstein: Objectivism is like measles; it's an infantile disease. In due time as you age, you'll realize that no man is an island. And you'll weep for whatever altruism you can get, since as you get older, you'll find in your bones that the natural human condition is pretty shitty, and not at all heroic. With the possible exception of people who actually pause to help others through the shit, and with the shit, when they could just as easily ignore them and move on. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 30th November 2009, 8:24pm) One of these days we'll have to properly upgrade this site... I think the latest version allows for things like that, though I could be mistaken.
Difficult to tell, as the software has been heavily customised, but I'd say you're three versions behind. On the subject of the poll, do we want someone whom we know to be an expert at the job but frequently give wrong decisions (you know who I mean), or someone of whose expertise we have no idea? Tough!
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 1st December 2009, 10:04am) Vote for the guys who will give Arbcom the level of seriousness that it deserves: RHMED, Cla68, Kurt. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) And anyone who votes for Jehochman is gonna get a horseshoe in the chops! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) I'm sorry, putting Cla68 in with RHMED and Kurt is an insult. Even if you were just joking around. Cla68 is a serious candidate who has shown dedication to the project and a devotion to doing the right thing, and a high tolerance for getting dealt shitty hands. ArbCom could really use his expertise.
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QUOTE(Random832 @ Tue 1st December 2009, 1:38pm) QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 1st December 2009, 1:42am) There ought to be an option as well to have Fred Bauder exiled to ED. Or redirected to Clown, at least. Seriously, he's running? Oh yes. I got indef blocked by Tznkai for asking OFF (Old Friend Fred) about some deep, dark sekrets of his legal past. And my Q's not only were removed but deleted (wanna see em?). WP moves very quickly when it comes to protecting the perceived privacy of its own. Less than 3 hours later, after some urging by Casliber and Giano, Tznkai unblocks me, I re ask my questions to the venerable jurist in a more PC manner and we end up having a pleasant discussion Oh and I end up joining Wikipedia Review...so unlike many stories here, this one ended well. Aside from the Hasten The Day crew, I see no reason why any sane, rational Reviewer would vote to put OFF back on the Itty Bitty Titty Committee. This post has been edited by RDH(Ghost In The Machine):
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QUOTE(Lar @ Tue 1st December 2009, 9:35am) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 1st December 2009, 10:04am) Vote for the guys who will give Arbcom the level of seriousness that it deserves: RHMED, Cla68, Kurt. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) And anyone who votes for Jehochman is gonna get a horseshoe in the chops! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) I'm sorry, putting Cla68 in with RHMED and Kurt is an insult. Even if you were just joking around. Cla68 is a serious candidate who has shown dedication to the project and a devotion to doing the right thing, and a high tolerance for getting dealt shitty hands. ArbCom could really use his expertise. I agree with Lar here, Cla68 is one of our most dedicated article writers, and a smart contributer who would be a bonus for the committee. He doesn't belong in the same category as those two. He should have gotten adminship a long time ago.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 1st December 2009, 1:25pm) QUOTE(Jaranda @ Tue 1st December 2009, 11:17am) I agree with Lar here, Cla68 is one of our most dedicated article writers, and a smart contributer who would be a bonus for the committee. He doesn't belong in the same category as those two. He should have gotten adminship a long time ago.
Eh, phooey. I like all three of these guys -- Cla68 is a class act, RHMED brings some much needed irreverence to the show and Kurt is the best thing to come out of Indiana since James Dean. I hope these guys win. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) K! I keep forgetting you have a strange horsey way of showing your love (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 1st December 2009, 1:38pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 1st December 2009, 10:25am) QUOTE(Jaranda @ Tue 1st December 2009, 11:17am) I agree with Lar here, Cla68 is one of our most dedicated article writers, and a smart contributer who would be a bonus for the committee. He doesn't belong in the same category as those two. He should have gotten adminship a long time ago.
Eh, phooey. I like all three of these guys -- Cla68 is a class act, RHMED brings some much needed irreverence to the show and Kurt is the best thing to come out of Indiana since James Dean. I hope these guys win. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Why do you hate Indiana? Why do you hate Shostakovich?
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QUOTE(Jaranda @ Tue 1st December 2009, 4:17pm) QUOTE(Lar @ Tue 1st December 2009, 9:35am) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 1st December 2009, 10:04am) Vote for the guys who will give Arbcom the level of seriousness that it deserves: RHMED, Cla68, Kurt. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) And anyone who votes for Jehochman is gonna get a horseshoe in the chops! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) I'm sorry, putting Cla68 in with RHMED and Kurt is an insult. Even if you were just joking around. Cla68 is a serious candidate who has shown dedication to the project and a devotion to doing the right thing, and a high tolerance for getting dealt shitty hands. ArbCom could really use his expertise. I agree with Lar here, Cla68 is one of our most dedicated article writers, and a smart contributer who would be a bonus for the committee. He doesn't belong in the same category as those two. He should have gotten adminship a long time ago. Cla68 is too good for ArbCom, it'd be the ruin of him.
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