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"Also, in the past 27 months, candidate has averaged a little over 84 edits a month, and not the 100 they stated. ArcAngel (talk) ) 19:25, 13 April 2011 (UTC)"
For this you're opposing? The fellow (BuickCenturyDriver, famous for the password hacking incident which he references in Q3) has been editing 3 years now, and you're nitpicking how many edits per month? Actually, I might have noted it myself, but I would have clarified that I wasn't opposing on the basis of 1/6 fewer edits per month than stated. 100 is approximately right. Seriously, folks, lighten up. Or find something more useful to do.
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Neutral I'm not impressed with the 75% edit summary usage for Major Edits, and the 43% usage to minor edits. I'll evaluate more later. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 18:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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Neutral I'm not impressed with the 75% edit summary usage for Major Edits, and the 43% usage to minor edits. I'll evaluate more later. Tofutwitch11 (TALK) 18:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
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Wow, I think that's one of the stupidest reasonings i've ever seen. I may personally use edit summaries a lot, but I don't think the lack of putting the word "reply" or "re" is really detrimental to someone's editing.
Did they even specify major and minor edits specifically in articles? Or is this just in general?
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 13th April 2011, 7:08pm)
Oh, please. Annex this crap.
No offense, but will you please shut the fuck up?
I think there's forum mods around here who can manage to scrape two brain cells together long enough to figure out when to move or not move a thread. This incessant "OMG MODS MODS MODS BANISH THIS THREAD FROM MY EYES!" crying from the masses is nauseating. It is not impacting YOU personally to see a Wikipedia topic outside of the Annex.
Jesus.
As for RfA opposes, nothing tops DougTech's "too many admins" spam, but carping about % of edit summary usage is certainly in the top 5.
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Did no one notice that most of the freaks "voting" in this RFA weren't admins? Just a random mishmash of rollbackers, trolls, and loose screws (take a bow, Jasper).......
Plus: If Fastily quit last year, why is he/she still commenting on RFAs and trolling AN/I?
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Strong Oppose: The block log isn't clean, even though it is old. However what concerns me is your low activity in recent months and your edits on talk pages. You do not show understanding of the BLP policy. Does not seem to have learned from past mistakes (a key quality for admins).Jasper Deng (talk) 18:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Which edits are you concern about, JD? –BuickCenturyDriver 18:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
You don't edit talk pages enough.Jasper Deng (talk) 18:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Questions about my edits are discussed on my own talk page. I usually don't have questions about my mainspace edits and that's why article talkspace has a small slice on my edit count. This answers FetchComms's question above. –BuickCenturyDriver 18:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Nuvola emoticon - appalled.svg...I'm speechless. Swarm X 19:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Oppose is now strong because of comment deletion (as in Reaper Eternal's question).Jasper Deng (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
That was due to an edit conflict, as stated above. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Shows a problem with handling edit conflicts.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Er, what? You do know what an edit conflict is, right? StrPby (talk) 23:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
JD, no matter that I say or what I do you're going to find a new reason why I can't function as a admin. I have no further comments for you. And yes SP, I know what an edit conflict is. I was using my portable computer and I pressed back on my browser after JDs comments before I read them. My new edits probably overwrote his. I had no intention of deleting his comments. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
As the indenting shows, I directed that question at Jasper, not you. StrPby (talk) 00:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)
Also, note how Fastily uses the word "dearth". Will that help with your OTRS-filled retirement, hmmm?
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 13th April 2011, 9:20pm)
Plus: If Fastily quit last year, why is he/she still commenting on RFAs and trolling AN/I?
It looks like Fastily's "retirement" amounts to nothing more than an excuse to spend zero time actually contributing to Wikipedia articles while still participating in all the worthless drama. I imagine many active admins wish they could do this but begrudgingly edit an article here and there to demonstrate that they're present "to improve the encyclopedia." The retired tag removes any semblance of that obligation.
I believe this is also known as "pulling a Balloonman."
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Strong Oppose: The block log isn't clean, even though it is old. However what concerns me is your low activity in recent months and your edits on talk pages. You do not show understanding of the BLP policy. Does not seem to have learned from past mistakes (a key quality for admins).Jasper Deng (talk) 18:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Which edits are you concern about, JD? –BuickCenturyDriver 18:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
You don't edit talk pages enough.Jasper Deng (talk) 18:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Questions about my edits are discussed on my own talk page. I usually don't have questions about my mainspace edits and that's why article talkspace has a small slice on my edit count. This answers FetchComms's question above. –BuickCenturyDriver 18:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Nuvola emoticon - appalled.svg...I'm speechless. Swarm X 19:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Oppose is now strong because of comment deletion (as in Reaper Eternal's question).Jasper Deng (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
That was due to an edit conflict, as stated above. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Shows a problem with handling edit conflicts.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Er, what? You do know what an edit conflict is, right? StrPby (talk) 23:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
JD, no matter that I say or what I do you're going to find a new reason why I can't function as a admin. I have no further comments for you. And yes SP, I know what an edit conflict is. I was using my portable computer and I pressed back on my browser after JDs comments before I read them. My new edits probably overwrote his. I had no intention of deleting his comments. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
As the indenting shows, I directed that question at Jasper, not you. StrPby (talk) 00:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
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Strong Oppose: The block log isn't clean, even though it is old. However what concerns me is your low activity in recent months and your edits on talk pages. You do not show understanding of the BLP policy. Does not seem to have learned from past mistakes (a key quality for admins).Jasper Deng (talk) 18:04, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Which edits are you concern about, JD? –BuickCenturyDriver 18:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
You don't edit talk pages enough.Jasper Deng (talk) 18:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Questions about my edits are discussed on my own talk page. I usually don't have questions about my mainspace edits and that's why article talkspace has a small slice on my edit count. This answers FetchComms's question above. –BuickCenturyDriver 18:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Nuvola emoticon - appalled.svg...I'm speechless. Swarm X 19:26, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Oppose is now strong because of comment deletion (as in Reaper Eternal's question).Jasper Deng (talk) 22:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
That was due to an edit conflict, as stated above. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:43, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Shows a problem with handling edit conflicts.Jasper Deng (talk) 23:46, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Er, what? You do know what an edit conflict is, right? StrPby (talk) 23:53, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
JD, no matter that I say or what I do you're going to find a new reason why I can't function as a admin. I have no further comments for you. And yes SP, I know what an edit conflict is. I was using my portable computer and I pressed back on my browser after JDs comments before I read them. My new edits probably overwrote his. I had no intention of deleting his comments. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
As the indenting shows, I directed that question at Jasper, not you. StrPby (talk) 00:01, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)
Also, note how Fastily uses the word "dearth". Will that help with your OTRS-filled retirement, hmmm?
Heh, this joker has a userbox on his page which says "This user acts like he/she is an administrator on the English Wikipedia but really isn't." - and, commendably, it appears to be true: *Zero articles created *Majority of edits to other users' talk pages - politicin', facepediabookin', pokin' and generally being useless.
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Dumb RFA oppose®s are nothing new unfortunately. Anyone with an account is legitimately able to vote in a request, including people like DougsTech, "retired" editors such as Fastily who appears to use a stock opposition reason, and random people who have never voted on an RFA before or barely made any other edits.
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QUOTE(melloden @ Wed 13th April 2011, 10:33pm)
Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)
This is the joker that templated me a few days ago for giving someone the WP:DICK (T-H-L-K-D) treatment at the WQA page. A charming little busybody.
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Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)
This is the joker that templated me a few days ago for giving someone the WP:DICK (T-H-L-K-D) treatment at the WQA page. A charming little busybody.
Get your mind out of the gutter, I thought it needed a funny photo of someone tying a balloon in knots to make a funney animal (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 14th April 2011, 7:51am)
QUOTE(radek @ Thu 14th April 2011, 12:41am)
Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)
This is the joker that templated me a few days ago for giving someone the WP:DICK (T-H-L-K-D) treatment at the WQA page. A charming little busybody.
Just want to note - I'm not the one who made the statement about minivans driving into any rivers - someone else did, and I copied it as part of the longer quotation.
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QUOTE(radek @ Thu 14th April 2011, 9:49am)
Just want to note - I'm not the one who made the statement about minivans driving into any rivers - someone else did, and I copied it as part of the longer quotation.
Editing fail on my part. Original post re-attributed to melloden.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 14th April 2011, 2:51pm)
QUOTE(radek @ Thu 14th April 2011, 12:41am)
Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)
This is the joker that templated me a few days ago for giving someone the WP:DICK (T-H-L-K-D) treatment at the WQA page. A charming little busybody.
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I used to occasionally check in on RFAs and sometimes comment. People like that are a major reason why I stopped. The other main reason is that I got sick of what adminship is on WP: an achievement and status symbol.
I never planned on even trying for adminship, but participating in RFAs for a while only made it clearer why that was a good choice. It's not really even the process, IMO. It's the mind-numbingly bureaucratic participants, the popularity-contest nature of the thing, and the blatantly myopic denials of the obvious: "It's not a vote" and "Adminship is no big deal" were frequently cited whenever it became too apparent that everyone believes the opposite.
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QUOTE(Sxeptomaniac @ Thu 14th April 2011, 4:03pm)
It's not really even the process, IMO. It's the mind-numbingly bureaucratic participants, the popularity-contest nature of the thing, and the blatantly myopic denials of the obvious: "It's not a vote" and "Adminship is no big deal" were frequently cited whenever it became too apparent that everyone believes the opposite.
Yeah. A user might say that "adminship is no big deal" to support a candidate who's getting some opposition for inexperience. But that same user might turn around and oppose another candidate for not having enough experience to be trusted with adminship. As you say, it's a popularity contest.
As for "it's not a vote," the only thing that separates RfA from a straight vote is the fact that all the other voters can see your vote and try to harass you into changing it. On many occasions, I've seen supporters try to suppress opposing opinions by calling for them to be removed from the count.
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This is why I fully support stripping away the powers that admins have into their own individual little sections that you have to apply for, like how Rollback works. It's too bad the VandelFighter permission never gets off the ground, but that's because of the extreme admin opposition to the idea.
I mean, if you gave away their ability to block users, how can they consider themselves better than everyone else?
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I think we really need a page on Mr. Jasper. He has just started this ANI report. I went and looked through a few of Snakefan55's edit wars and, i've found, that all the information he is attempting to add is correct, from a little searching of my own. Yes, he shouldn't be edit warring to keep the content in, but discussing on talk pages, but the fact that the reverters aren't even bothering to check whether the info is correct or not is really irksome.
2. He was in the middle of his ArbCom case when Risker blocked him, then oversighted anything that could shed light on the matter. Jimbo says he'll "recommend to the Committee that Rodhullandemu be allowed back provisionally" "upon presentation to him of real-world evidence that professional/medical help has been sought and followed for six months, and upon the recommendation of those professionals".
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2. He was in the middle of his ArbCom case when Risker blocked him, then oversighted anything that could shed light on the matter. Jimbo says he'll "recommend to the Committee that Rodhullandemu be allowed back provisionally" "upon presentation to him of real-world evidence that professional/medical help has been sought and followed for six months, and upon the recommendation of those professionals".
Wow, connecting WP with the real world??? Shocking. Before having sex, should I ask my doctor to tell her that my penis is long enough?
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Rod apparently said some rather disagreeable things and made some threats against Arbcom, all of which Risker oversighted and Arbcom immediately closed the case as a indefinite block of Rod, without even dealing with what the case was about at all.
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Tue 19th April 2011, 7:08pm)
Rod apparently said some rather disagreeable things and made some threats against Arbcom, all of which Risker oversighted and Arbcom immediately closed the case as a indefinite block of Rod, without even dealing with what the case was about at all.
Actually, they suspended it until April 7, then closed it a few days later.
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Rod made his comments after the suspension not before. I don't know the reason for the suspension originally. Probably some BS reason about his health or something.
No, it was meant to start up again on April 7, but then he made the comments that he did and Arbcom just blocked him and closed the case.
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Tue 19th April 2011, 1:08pm)
Rod apparently said some rather disagreeable things and made some threats against Arbcom, all of which Risker oversighted and Arbcom immediately closed the case as a indefinite block of Rod, without even dealing with what the case was about at all.
He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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1. Who's Shappy?
He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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Jimbo says he'll "recommend to the Committee that Rodhullandemu be allowed back provisionally" "upon presentation to him of real-world evidence that professional/medical help has been sought and followed for six months, and upon the recommendation of those professionals".
I hope that on principle, they ignore him. What more influence ought Jimbo to have than any other fairly non-productive editor?
If Rodhullandemu still reads this forum ... I came up with something far more useful for him to do with the last of his days.
Rod, and anyone else in his position, try volunteering as a moderator for your local, or even regional Freecycle Network groups.
Real people, real stuff, real community spirit ... you even get to do face to faces far more often.
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QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 19th April 2011, 2:07pm)
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1. Who's Shappy?
He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
Links or it didn't happen.
No, really, who was he?
The video used to be online, but it was removed by a certain Ed Wynn lookalike on Arbcom. That was about two years ago.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 19th April 2011, 7:04pm)
He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
I remember that video; a well-trained and rather formally dressed 12-year-old kid being prompted by his father in the background and supported by Newyorkbrad to his right. Bizarre.
Actually, as I explained to Silver last time he brought this up, Risker wasn't the one who oversighted the statements by RHE...
I was.
Unfortunately, when we tried to explain to Silver the situation on why the oversight was necessary (with Alison, and others who saw the statements trying to explain as well), he thought we were all persecuting him.
Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't.
I will say that Silver has got the timeline wrong.
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I don't think remembering who exactly oversighted the information is really necessary.
And I do understand why it was necessary within policy, I just think the policy is ignorant and wrong.
And if I have the timeline wrong, it's because no one really explained anything in any real detail. It took me forever to even get what I did out of you guys. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)
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