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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 18th October 2009, 3:24pm)  Someone seems to have created a BLP of [[David Shankbone]]. User Huckandraz formerly seemed mainly interested in New York City artist [[Judy Rifka]]. Well, it was just a matter of time - they've let him get away scot-free with everything else imaginable, so why not that too? In fact, why don't they just rename the site "Bonerpedia" while they're at it? It would be more accurate, at least. Still, I don't think he belongs on the Fordham Law School Alumni List if he didn't actually graduate, does he? |
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You don't suppose the article will be a magnet for ... drama? Nah, what am I thinking. As for "alumnus", I think any institution accepts anyone as alumni who ever went there, even for a day. They want contributions from wherever they can get them. |
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How long before Shankers starts editing the page himself, and turns it into even more of a vanity than it is already? I think the "Huckandraz" person, who is probably not the Little Rock, AR person to whom huckandraz.com is registered, actually knows him. http://myspace.com/huckandraz is the Myspace page of a 32-year-old woman who, like David Shankbone, is from Brooklyn. |
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 18th October 2009, 5:27pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sun 18th October 2009, 4:20pm) ...not the least being his extreme lack of sexual activity (I guess those Michael Lucas poolside parties aren't as amusing as we would like to think). I'm not sure that would be "appropriate," but it wouldn't surprise me in any case. After all, why go to all the trouble and expense of fucking men or women, when you can fuck with the future of Western culture any time you want, for free? Have you ever read his blog? He comes across as a very sad character -- incredibly insecure, with significant family problems (including a lousy relationship with his father that he has detailed in depth) and no focus on what he wants to do with his life. For a man of his age, it's pretty embarrassing stuff. Outside of his Wikipedia snapshots and shilling for the Israeli government, he's never accomplished anything. |
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sun 18th October 2009, 9:35pm) QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 18th October 2009, 5:27pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sun 18th October 2009, 4:20pm) ...not the least being his extreme lack of sexual activity (I guess those Michael Lucas poolside parties aren't as amusing as we would like to think). I'm not sure that would be "appropriate," but it wouldn't surprise me in any case. After all, why go to all the trouble and expense of fucking men or women, when you can fuck with the future of Western culture any time you want, for free? Have you ever read his blog? He comes across as a very sad character -- incredibly insecure, with significant family problems (including a lousy relationship with his father that he has detailed in depth) and no focus on what he wants to do with his life. For a man of his age, it's pretty embarrassing stuff. Outside of his Wikipedia snapshots and shilling for the Israeli government, he's never accomplished anything. Um, hello? He has an article on Wikipedia about him! How many people can say that? You're just jealous because you're not on Wikipedia! Oh. Wait... Never mind. |
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QUOTE(Wikicrusher2 @ Sun 18th October 2009, 8:52pm) How long before Shankers starts editing the page himself, and turns it into even more of a vanity than it is already? How do we know he isn't already? I though audacious piss takes were his signature. Would a newcomer honestly know stuff like, and have the confidence to throw about; abuse of speedy tag - over 10 reliable sources and same again twice? No way. |
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QUOTE(Wikicrusher2 @ Sun 18th October 2009, 1:52pm) How long before Shankers starts editing the page himself, and turns it into even more of a vanity than it is already? I think the "Huckandraz" person, who is probably not the Little Rock, AR person to whom huckandraz.com is registered, actually knows him. http://myspace.com/huckandraz is the Myspace page of a 32-year-old woman who, like David Shankbone, is from Brooklyn. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) His name is David Miller. He is from Brooklyn. He is gay and a drama queen and likes Fire Island. He blogs and gives us WAAY too much information. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) He spends his time promoting the cause of Zionism with his gay Jewish entertainment industry friends, one of whom has a Fire Island house (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) Surprise, David gets away with too much crap on Wikipedia, due to the connections he's made there. Talk about gilding the lily! This overloads a wiki-abuse stereotype so badly that if I made it all up, you'd accuse me of doing too little work and not using my imagination! But may I point out to the newbies here, that we've seen this all before. It's not that there's anything particularly evil about any of this stereotype, per se. In many ways, I'm a stereotype of another cut, as are we all. I'm just pissed that one particular mind-set of people gets away with anything they like on Wikipedia, and everybody else stands in line to be kicked. The bicoastal liberal urbanite metrosexuals have long taken over at Wikipedia. Encouraged by Jimbo, who evidently grew up wanting badly to belong to this cultural class, which he was NOT born into. Which aspiration, we can recognize by his present location and past wine-bills, if nothing else. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) |
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As for citizen journalists interviewing sitting heads of state, I think this may have been done before in the past. Shankbone would not be the first to do so. Who is "Heroic" here interviewing the Premier? More emphatically, what about Leonardo DiCaprio doing an interview in 2000 with President Clinton? And let's not forget Lady Cook's interview with President Teddy Roosevelt in 1907. But, then, I could see the debate centering on what it means to be a "citizen journalist". Is Leo DiCaprio not a citizen journalist because he derives a steady income outside of journalism and never strives to pursue journalistic activities on a regular basis? Do we really mean "amateur" journalism, since every journalist is a "citizen"? I think this is a silly reason to hang a Wikipedia article's survival in the balance. I once shook hands more than 5 separate times within 5 minutes with former President Jimmy Carter. Do I get a Wikipedia article, or would that not count for anything because Carter was not a "sitting" head of state at the time? Meanwhile... QUOTE Keep per Prodego, pending confirmation of basis. While I realize we should guard against navel gazing, if one of our own becomes notable, we should not flinch from a biography on that individual. KillerChihuahua 00:35, 19 October 2009 (UTC) Yeah, like that great Carolyn Doran article I frequently read and re-read on Wikipedia. This post has been edited by thekohser: |
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sun 18th October 2009, 8:24pm) Someone seems to have created a BLP of [[David Shankbone]]. User Huckandraz formerly seemed mainly interested in New York City artist [[Judy Rifka]]. No comment, just pointing it out. Hey, where is all that gay porn he uploaded? I wanted to spice up the article but all I could find was this. |
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Mon 19th October 2009, 6:04am) Hey, where is all that gay porn he uploaded? I wanted to spice up the article but all I could find was this. Hey, you are right, loads of it seem to have disappeared without even a trace in the logs, such as, e.g. ' The_making_of_an_adult_film_by_David_Shankbone.jpg' series. The topic is a bit lacking in gay interest, isn't it? There must have been 'behind the scene' discussion about all those 'scenes of behinds'. The page really needs another dick on it ... glans. It seems Jimbo had a lot deleted back in January, and covered for Shankbone, when the Pee-dia landed on the Australian Communications and Media Authority blacklist. Sexually explicit images were featuring three men including ... guess who ... Michael Lucas having anal intercourse. Shankbone told Wikinews that he had "no comment for this story." I wonder if our discussion is having yet another a positive effect on the Pee-dia. Matt Barber, a constitutional law attorney and policy director for 'Concerned Women for America' was leaning on the Department of Justice and the U.S. Attorney's office. You could always upload some for him again from Freebase or elsewhere: here, here or go for the full portraiture of ... male anus. And the pissing goat series is still there. Arguably, on the basis of my recent Wikipedia research, that must include two kinks; zoophilia and urolagnia, and speaking of zoophilia, other of his work might appear under pseudonyms such as I Smell Beaver or Lucas Entertain and god knows what other sock accounts? If you want a reminder of his best work try the pure genius evidence of ... The Taint. Original version, here. I guess Jimbo sees it good for him to have the word Pee-dia flaunted around all those picture taken VIPs. Surely, his greatest notability lies in the homeless woman tampon incident aka "Is my tampon showing?". Choice images are disappearing off Flickr, davidshankbone.wordpress.com blog has now gone too ... blog was locked from bots. I dont suppose EricBarbour is an equivalent reliable source? QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 20th February 2009, 4:45am) Christ, what a shitty, ego-ridden blog. And worse: he appears to have a gang of followers, who post sniveling twaddle under his entries. This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: |
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 19th October 2009, 11:03am) That friendfeed link is very interesting. When I put my cursor over the images that say "This image currently unavailable" it gives me little pop-ups that say: "David Saranga", "Novelist John Reed as Sarah Palin", "Sexy David Saranga", and "David Saranga reflecting on the Great South Bay". What "Sexy David Saranga" hanging out at hard porn director Michael Lucas's Fire Island villa?Well, that's outed Israeli Consultate media supremo David Saranga then ... he of the 'Women of the Israeli Defense Forces' soft porn editorial and financier to 'David Shankbone Mediterranean Holiday Fund, LLC'. Doncha just love it when all the Conservatives' prejudices about gays and Jews corrupting the morals of America all collide together in one weekend's cruising up on Fire Island? As for Novelist John Reed as Sarah Pallin? Oh, I see ... another Shankbone edit fest turned Facebook spat with a reliable source folks, Penguin group website ... and Shanker's Love letters to Michelle Obama group!!! David says ... QUOTE We believe that real men like a supportive aggressive streak in their women. Michelle Obama, we want you to be OUR baby mama. We'll treat you right, too. ... which must explains the Slim Virgin free ride. Slim's a joy to the community, isn't she? She know the rules - she wrote them didn't she - and yet cruises over a whitewashing of a self-penned autobiography whose only references is the man's own personal blog. So it really only a public show of powers ... as she goes on to play ping-pong reverts on a WP:COI allegation and tag teams with Benjiboi who is outed for "shilling for other Lucas COI editors" and "having his own COI with Michael Lucas". It was Benjiboi that moved Michael Lucas (adult film director) to Michael Lucas (director) after Shankbone initiated its move from Michael Lucas (porn star) - Michael Lucas (adult film director). QUOTE He claims he has lived in seventeen cities, six states and three countries.<ref name="About">[http://blog.shankbone.org/about/ About David Shankbone], Shankbone.org.</ref> He attended the University of Colorado and Fordham Law School, although the latter he dropped out of one year short of graduation, supposedly due to financial difficulties. He continued with a career in law as a paralegal and described the Fordham experience as a trauma. What he actually says is ... QUOTE In 2006, I left Fordham Law School one year short of graduation. I had missed a few credit card payments and could not qualify for student loans. The school would not help, so I returned to life as a paralegal. My sense of failure and financial devastation drove me to the verge of collapse . I mean, my English language interpretative skills are poor but wasn't it his screw up over finances and failure to find more that were traumatic rather than "Fordham"? Poor dear ... Meanwhile, here and here: Shankbone as WatchingWhales keep on with the Lucas Entertainment PR. Of course, wasn't it Slim that remind recently us that sockpuppeting and WP:COI were not necessary offences at all ... unless, I presume, they were being done by someone that was opposing her.Which bring me to the best laugh of the day ... pure genuis. QUOTE We should probably remove Category:LGBT people until this is properly sourced, per WP:BLP. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 11:37, 19 October 2009 (UTC) |
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Mon 19th October 2009, 12:47pm) As for Novelist John Reed as Sarah Pallin? Oh, I see ... another Shankbone edit fest turned Facebook spat with a reliable source folks, Penguin group website ... and Shanker's Love letters to Michelle Obama group!!! David says ... QUOTE We believe that real men like a supportive aggressive streak in their women. Michelle Obama, we want you to be OUR baby mama. We'll treat you right, too. ... which must explains the Slim Virgin free ride. John Reed must have a hard-working proofreader and editor: QUOTE Penguin/Plume Books has very graciously offered me this opportunity to blog for a week on their site. I believe I will be unvetted (we'll see). To their mistake, I intended to add my own. My new book, All The World's A Grave: A New Play by William Shakespeare, contains a brief essay at the end. Before my wise editor got a hold of it, it was not brief, and I though to unload the whole story of my childhood, and rational for writing a new work by Shakespeare (I took apart all the known works and put them back together as a new tragedy), right here, for half a dozen people to see. That last sentence is something else. |
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I just want to make sure this is documented here, lest anyone think that WR is simply a nest of petty whiners and complainers who see collusion and intrigue in the smallest comment. QUOTE Keep. To have a profile in the Columbia Journalism Review seems to establish notability in and of itself, because it's significant coverage in a reliable source, which is what Wikipedia:Notability requires. In addition, there are the Haaretz and Information Week articles that are actually about him, not just containing passing reference to him; his work being used by The New York Times and Encylopaedia Britannica; and the comic strip based on his work in Time Out. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 13:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC) * Whoa, Slim, I'm going to stop you right there. His work is "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in the sense that my work is "used by Wikipedia"; he happens to have uploaded some photos to the user-editable section of the E.B., and anyone else could do the same. If "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in this context is grounds for an article, then I'll get writing on LaraLove and Realist2 on the basis of their Maynard James Keenan and Michael Jackson Wikipedia articles being ripped off borrowed by the BBC. – iridescent 13:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC) I think Iridescent demolishes the Britannica claim, but here's a link to the Time Out cartoon, which says underneath: QUOTE "Want an illustrator to draw a comic strip based on your New York City photo? Email us your pictures now!" I don't think SlimVirgin would accept that as evidence of notability for anyone other than Shankbone. |
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 19th October 2009, 2:56pm) I just want to make sure this is documented here, lest anyone think that WR is simply a nest of petty whiners and complainers who see collusion and intrigue in the smallest comment. QUOTE Keep. To have a profile in the Columbia Journalism Review seems to establish notability in and of itself, because it's significant coverage in a reliable source, which is what Wikipedia:Notability requires. In addition, there are the Haaretz and Information Week articles that are actually about him, not just containing passing reference to him; his work being used by The New York Times and Encylopaedia Britannica; and the comic strip based on his work in Time Out. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 13:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC) * Whoa, Slim, I'm going to stop you right there. His work is "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in the sense that my work is "used by Wikipedia"; he happens to have uploaded some photos to the user-editable section of the E.B., and anyone else could do the same. If "used by the Encylopaedia Britannica" in this context is grounds for an article, then I'll get writing on LaraLove and Realist2 on the basis of their Maynard James Keenan and Michael Jackson Wikipedia articles being ripped off borrowed by the BBC. – iridescent 13:23, 19 October 2009 (UTC) I think Iridescent demolishes the Britannica claim, but here's a link to the Time Out cartoon, which says underneath: QUOTE "Want an illustrator to draw a comic strip based on your New York City photo? Email us your pictures now!" I don't think SlimVirgin would accept that as evidence of notability for anyone other than Shankbone. Slim if you're reading this, I'm not sure that the "mention in the press = warrants a biography" line is one you really want to be pushing too hard. |
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 12:50pm) "Citizen journalist"? You mean "amateur journalist," no? Has Mr. Miller ever been paid for his work? If not, then he is an amateur -- there is no such thing as a "citizen journalist." (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif) All the easier to be the "first" then, isn't it? The entire profession started off as "citizens"? QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Mon 19th October 2009, 2:02pm) Slim if you're reading this, I'm not sure that the "mention in the press = warrants a biography" line is one you really want to be pushing too hard. Do it now and keep them both busy for a bit. As for Adam ... it is a confirmed hit. Adam is current working on a piece on "citizen journalism". QUOTE I finally, just today, was able to read the article about me in the Columbia Journalism Review. It's two pages and thoroughly researched. Adam Rose's writing is good, and he sat with me for about 10 hours over three meetings to work on the story.
He interviewed a few of my interviewees, and I directed him to the haters' threads at the Wikipedia Review and to my former nemesis User:THF to learn what critics think. This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy: |
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# Keep He was featured in Wikinews [2], there a picture of him shaking hands with the president of Israel. There are plenty of mentions of him in the news, references to reliable sources already in the article. Dream Focus 17:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 5:30pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Mon 19th October 2009, 1:10pm) QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Mon 19th October 2009, 9:58am) PS Is there a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shankbone article, too? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif) No, but there's a Latin one ... kinda! So his BLP is proliferating already - such is the way. That is scary. I sorta imagine a Simple Wikipedia version of the Shank article could come with a .wav file of Peter Graves from "Airplane!" asking the kid if he ever saw a grown man naked. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) Do you supoose you could limit your homophobic comments to only two per any thread regarding Shankbone, Benjiboi, or any other openly gay editor or subject? Even fewer would be better. Thanks! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) |
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