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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 10:27am) *

And presumably you're also stating that there should be no adult topics on WP on the off-chance that an under-age viewer comes across it, or edits it?

Sorry, but I don't believe that too much information is ever a bad thing, regardless of how old the kid is. In any case, if the kid is making reasonable quality edits then there's a good chance that he's mature enough to deal with the subject matter.

Having access to accurate information on sexual topics is a good thing. Reading about them on WP is a bad thing. Unless you want them to think that scrotum inflation is pretty normal or that the "donkey punch" is a real practice.
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:00pm) *

QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 10:27am) *

And presumably you're also stating that there should be no adult topics on WP on the off-chance that an under-age viewer comes across it, or edits it?

Sorry, but I don't believe that too much information is ever a bad thing, regardless of how old the kid is. In any case, if the kid is making reasonable quality edits then there's a good chance that he's mature enough to deal with the subject matter.

Having access to accurate information on sexual topics is a good thing. Reading about them on WP is a bad thing. Unless you want them to think that scrotum inflation is pretty normal or that the "donkey punch" is a real practice.


Out of however millions of articles you want to focus on just two?

So when are you going to put both up for AfD so that the community can agree with you?
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post Mon 12th March 2012, 2:18pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 5:46am) *
Anyway, I'm rambling now...so how long should he be punished for after his sentence is complete?


Until he's lying face-down in a roadside ditch, IMO.

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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:10pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:00pm) *

QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 10:27am) *

And presumably you're also stating that there should be no adult topics on WP on the off-chance that an under-age viewer comes across it, or edits it?

Sorry, but I don't believe that too much information is ever a bad thing, regardless of how old the kid is. In any case, if the kid is making reasonable quality edits then there's a good chance that he's mature enough to deal with the subject matter.

Having access to accurate information on sexual topics is a good thing. Reading about them on WP is a bad thing. Unless you want them to think that scrotum inflation is pretty normal or that the "donkey punch" is a real practice.


Out of however millions of articles you want to focus on just two?

So when are you going to put both up for AfD so that the community can agree with you?

Yes, an AfD is clearly the best way to determine if an article is accurate or useful. LOL. We're talking about a subset of those millions of articles, the subset defined by your contention that WP is a valid source of information on sexual topics. I chose two off the top of my head to illustrate what everyone here, including yourself, knows - it is a terrible source of information on sexual topics for a variety of reasons. Give it a rest.
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post Mon 12th March 2012, 2:32pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:25pm) *

QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:10pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:00pm) *

QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 10:27am) *

And presumably you're also stating that there should be no adult topics on WP on the off-chance that an under-age viewer comes across it, or edits it?

Sorry, but I don't believe that too much information is ever a bad thing, regardless of how old the kid is. In any case, if the kid is making reasonable quality edits then there's a good chance that he's mature enough to deal with the subject matter.

Having access to accurate information on sexual topics is a good thing. Reading about them on WP is a bad thing. Unless you want them to think that scrotum inflation is pretty normal or that the "donkey punch" is a real practice.


Out of however millions of articles you want to focus on just two?

So when are you going to put both up for AfD so that the community can agree with you?

Yes, an AfD is clearly the best way to determine if an article is accurate or useful. LOL. We're talking about a subset of those millions of articles, the subset defined by your contention that WP is a valid source of information on sexual topics. I chose two off the top of my head to illustrate what everyone here, including yourself, knows - it is a terrible source of information on sexual topics for a variety of reasons. Give it a rest.


You seem to think both articles are neither educational nor useful hence my suggestion about doing away with them. Given your response I take it you've changed your mind?

Why do you think that I think that WP is a terrible source of sexual topics? I'm all for them being there so long as they are accurate, factual and neutral as well as not being a HOWTO.

I'm of the opinion that if it exists then there should be an article on it.
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post Mon 12th March 2012, 2:38pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:32pm) *

You seem to think both articles are neither educational nor useful hence my suggestion about doing away with them. Given your response I take it you've changed your mind?

Why do you think that I think that WP is a terrible source of sexual topics? I'm all for them being there so long as they are accurate, factual and neutral as well as not being a HOWTO.

I'm of the opinion that if it exists then there should be an article on it.

Sorry, I'm not playing. You know the answers to your questions. Waste someone else's time.
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post Mon 12th March 2012, 2:49pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:38pm) *

QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Mon 12th March 2012, 2:32pm) *

You seem to think both articles are neither educational nor useful hence my suggestion about doing away with them. Given your response I take it you've changed your mind?

Why do you think that I think that WP is a terrible source of sexual topics? I'm all for them being there so long as they are accurate, factual and neutral as well as not being a HOWTO.

I'm of the opinion that if it exists then there should be an article on it.

Sorry, I'm not playing. You know the answers to your questions. Waste someone else's time.


Who's playing? I'm not?

I don't know the answers to the questions. I don't know what goes on in your head, and pretty damn sure you don't know how my head works.

As for wasting your time, you chose to reply. You weren't coerced so as such I can only presume that you are quite happy to waste your own time.

As it happens I truly believe that which I stated above. I'm not saying it to troll any one.

In other words you have your way of thinking about WP and I have mine. You seem to believe that anyone who doesn't share your outlook is wasting your time. Not very open-minded are you?
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post Mon 12th March 2012, 10:52pm
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Now beta-m posted a link to http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68230154 to Freedom_Porn:Donations page (like Commons has not enough porno on its own hrmph.gif ) at AN/U at commons:

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Also as an admin on Commons you know very well that you've not posted a page that anybody who would want to make a donation would see, nobody would look through the history to find a page from 2008 (4 years ago). The real donation page is [http://www.freedomporn.org/smut/Freedom_Porn:Donations here]. And it's very common for a non-profit group to allow people to donate, this isn't something special, it's not a business model. [[User:Beta_M|VolodyA! V Anarhist]] <small>Beta_M</small> ([[User talk:Beta_M|converse]]) 14:29, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

I am sure a few administrators and users will visit the site. hrmph.gif

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post Mon 12th March 2012, 11:41pm
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sun 11th March 2012, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 11th March 2012, 11:18am) *

And now I have been blocked by 'Mattbuck' for supposed harassment of Beta M.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68158913


http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...%3APeter_Damian

Mattbuck decided to remove your talk page access since you called them fascists:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68182425

Apparently, you're not allowed to call suppressors of free speech "fascists". Commons' new motto: "All speech is free, but some speech (i.e. porn) is freer than others (i.e. dissension, criticism)."


http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68249755:

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I do not see why as admins we should be forced to endure people who simply wish to be disruptive. I stand by my block, and my later revocation of his talk page access when he used the edit summaries to continue to be rude. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 22:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 11th March 2012, 11:04pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 11th March 2012, 11:18am) *

And now I have been blocked by 'Mattbuck' for supposed harassment of Beta M.

You weren't blocked on commons yet?!? Man those folks are slow.

Mattbuck seems like a fun guy.


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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 12th March 2012, 11:41pm) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sun 11th March 2012, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 11th March 2012, 11:18am) *

And now I have been blocked by 'Mattbuck' for supposed harassment of Beta M.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68158913


http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...%3APeter_Damian

Mattbuck decided to remove your talk page access since you called them fascists:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68182425

Apparently, you're not allowed to call suppressors of free speech "fascists". Commons' new motto: "All speech is free, but some speech (i.e. porn) is freer than others (i.e. dissension, criticism)."


http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68249755:

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I do not see why as admins we should be forced to endure people who simply wish to be disruptive. I stand by my block, and my later revocation of his talk page access when he used the edit summaries to continue to be rude. -''[[User:Mattbuck|mattbuck]]'' <small>([[User talk:Mattbuck|Talk]])</small> 22:59, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Peter Damian has now been unblocked by Rd232 – edit summary: No warning, and "harassment" appears to be legitimate questions
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Tue 13th March 2012, 3:22am) *

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sun 11th March 2012, 11:04pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Sun 11th March 2012, 11:18am) *

And now I have been blocked by 'Mattbuck' for supposed harassment of Beta M.

You weren't blocked on commons yet?!? Man those folks are slow.

Mattbuck seems like a fun guy.


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He really is. hrmph.gif

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He really is. hrmph.gif

Hang on, is that photo saying that they're selling beaded belts for just ten quid? I can't tell if the sign says "10.00" or "19.99."

Because if it's 10.00, then I got seriously ripped off on my last visit to Sausalito.
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Wow, take a look at this barnstar.....
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Wow, take a look at this barnstar.....

Come on, that's soooo 7 pages ago.

Now, if they could come up with a cold sex barnstar, then that would be really impressive. (As long as it didn't involve corpses, that is... though with WP, I'm sure it's just a matter of time!)
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Funny that he wants "free culture" and "free porn", but uses a CC license on his own photos.
And tries to sell the rights to them thru Getty Images. Who in the HELL does that twit think
will pay commercial rates for a photo of his ugly face?.....

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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 13th March 2012, 8:56am) *

QUOTE(tarantino @ Mon 12th March 2012, 8:22pm) *

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Funny that he wants "free culture" and "free porn", but uses a CC license on his own photos.
And tries to sell the rights to them thru Getty Images. Who in the HELL does that twit think
will pay commercial rates for a photo of his ugly face?.....


Well the getty images thing is something that flickr put on there, and you have to actively take it fucking thing off. OTOH there are 12,000 photos there of nothing so whether he has link on or off doesn't really matter.
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The block is back. Apparently my actions were 'inappropriate' http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68262576. This WR thread has been referenced.

[Edit] Interesting what Commons admins interpret as 'inappropriate'.

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The block is back. Apparently my actions were 'inappropriate' http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68262576. This WR thread has been referenced.

[Edit] Interesting what Commons admins interpret as 'inappropriate'.


Screw em!

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68267699
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QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 13th March 2012, 6:39am) *

The block is back. Apparently my actions were 'inappropriate' http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68262576. This WR thread has been referenced.

[Edit] Interesting what Commons admins interpret as 'inappropriate'.


http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...%3APeter_Damian

Can PierreSelim really be considered an uninvolved sysop in all this?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68014045

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68046262

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68057251

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68059378

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68144400

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=68150026
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