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post Sun 9th December 2007, 6:10pm
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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 5:50pm) *

Well, hedge funds aren't the same animal as forwards and futures. (or to be more specific, futures and forwards are tools used by hedge fund managers).

There's nothing innately wrong with hedge funds, nor with forwards nor futures contracts. Futures are forwards are financial instruments, and hedge funds are, well, using them to "hedge" risk.

But they are subject to the same unregulated abuses, so yes.

I just love that David S. brags about being a former Enron employee. Only a true former Enron employee would be so deluded. Though you'd think with Skilling in jail and Lay having conveniently died before his long sentence could be implemented, the guy would be discreet about this sordid former employer. Saying you once worked at Enron is like saying you once worked at the BCCI.

By the way, I suggest you check David S's edit history for futures and forward, etc etc etc edits. I'm guessing there isn't much. Which might imply he split his interests between pleasure edits and edits about his expertise, with two accounts.


for some reason this "shankbone" rings a bell. surely i must have come across this fellow in my google searching during my "holy shit, why are these 'two' henhouseguarding fox editors on WP treating me like Richard Burton in _The Man Who Came In From The Cold_"? daze.

i'd wager a hundred wikibucks that wordbomb has heard of this guy before too.

I think it's time for Cade to get serious with some not-so-private investigations and get to the heart of this wikimatter.

Hopefully Cade is a WR reader. I don't see how he couldn't be by now, after everything and now this.

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post Sun 9th December 2007, 6:18pm
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 5:50pm) *

In his profile he doesn't say anything about being Jewish but someone has just posted
"So woohoo...going back to your mother land? smile.gif" on his comments.

What does that prove? Lots of people get described as Jewish when they're not - me, for one.
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post Sun 9th December 2007, 6:24pm
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This is weird, I can't find any record of anyone with the surname Shankbone apart from this person. mellow.gif
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post Sun 9th December 2007, 6:32pm
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 6:24pm) *

This is weird, I can't find any record of anyone with the surname Shankbone apart from this person.

Nobody on the UK Electoral Roll or the list of UK company directors.
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lovely.

he literally shows his ass on WP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Shankbone

Does WP really want the kiddies to see this sort of thing? And when did WP turn into "mygayspace".

Not that there's anything wrong with that in the right setting, but not on WP, its not supposed to be a socialnetworking site for any sort of orienatations ;-)

How is this "contributing to an encyclopedia"? And why has Ryulong (well, RU, David might be quite long, perhaps if you check this he might show you) not put the hammer of the wikideletionsavingkb's gods upon this:
User:DavidShankBone/BodyParts

Next item for consideration:

Have these "2" users ever voted on the same issue, or tag-team edited the same article?

User:Hu12
User:David Shankbone (formerly DavidShankBone)

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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 6:41pm) *

lovely.

he literally shows his ass on WP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Shankbone

Does WP really want the kiddies to see this sort of thing? And when did WP turn into "mygayspace".

Danny Wool's boyfriend?

QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 6:41pm) *

Next item for consideration:

Have these "2" users ever voted on the same issue, or tag-team edited the same article?

User:Hu12
User:David Shankbone (formerly DavidShankBone)

I'm not sure about that- the edits don't seem to coincide particularly. But as DL said he doesn't seem to have edited anything on Law or Finance so he may have separate accounts for the purpose.

There are NO Shankbones in Whitepages .
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post Sun 9th December 2007, 7:44pm
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You'd think if someone was going to use a fake name they'd at least check to see if the name actually existed. I can't find any occurence of that name before he created his Wikipedia account.
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post Sun 9th December 2007, 7:50pm
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 12:50pm) *


I'm not sure about that- the edits don't seem to coincide particularly. But as DL said he doesn't seem to have edited anything on Law or Finance so he may have separate accounts for the purpose.

I'm sorry, but I suggested that someone else go look. I haven't looked. But if I did, that's what I'd look for. And do it fast, so as to avoid the usual WR-related WP-alteration

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There are NO Shankbones in Whitepages .


Shankbone is zeroa (shankbone), one of the components of the seder plate.

There's plenty about David Shankbone in Google, including New York city social networking things. Besides, if he's going to Israel and has his name in the media, it's probably his name.

No one lists in the white pages anymore. Esp. if you are a semi-public figure or female.

Lots of people don't even have fixed lines anymore - just a cell, which wouldn't show up in the white pages either.

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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 7:50pm) *

Lots of people don't even have fixed lines anymore - just a cell, which wouldn't show up in the white pages either.

I am telling you the surname Shankbone does not exist. No one has it except this person indicating it is not his birth name.
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QUOTE(guy @ Sun 9th December 2007, 12:18pm) *

What does that prove? Lots of people get described as Jewish when they're not - me, for one.
I think I read something about being Jewish in his WP bio, though I can't be bothered to look. Besides the fact that Shankbone is likely a Jewish name. Not that it matters.

And the Israel connection with American Jewish people is kind of lively, so it makes sense.

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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(guy @ Sun 9th December 2007, 12:18pm) *

What does that prove? Lots of people get described as Jewish when they're not - me, for one.
I think I read something about being Jewish in his WP bio, though I can't be bothered to look. Besides the fact that Shankbone is likely a Jewish name.

It's not. There is no one else that has this surname.
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 1:55pm) *

I am telling you the surname Shankbone does not exist. No one has it except this person indicating it is not his birth name.
In ANY country? If so, then he posts to social networking groups under a fake name. It sounds like a real name to me.
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post Sun 9th December 2007, 8:00pm
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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 7:57pm) *

QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 1:55pm) *

I am telling you the surname Shankbone does not exist. No one has it except this person indicating it is not his birth name.
In ANY country? If so, then he posts to social networking groups under a fake name. It sounds like a real name to me.

It is a fake name and no he doesn't just use it on social networking sites.
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blogspot - page 10 - Boston.com Local Search
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Local Search; Site; Events; Multimedia; Businesses; White Pages ... Interview with Evan Wolfson, David Shankbone, Wikinews, September... Source: Wikipedia ...
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Hot Issues in Education - News - WebCrawler
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Shankbone went to the National Action Network's headquarters in Harlem with .... watched the clouds, once bright white, turn quickly gray, then jet blac. ...
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Events leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq: Ahmed Chalabi and ...
1998: Ahmed Chalabi Speaks of Restoring Iraqi Oil Pipeline to Israel ... [Source: Public domain/ David Shankbone]Ahmed Chalabi meets Scott Ritter, ...
www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?specific_cases_and_issues=chalabi&timeline=complete_timeline..
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What's that, can you include complete links?

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Events leading up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq: Ahmed Chalabi and ...
1998: Ahmed Chalabi Speaks of Restoring Iraqi Oil Pipeline to Israel ... [Source: Public domain/ David Shankbone]Ahmed Chalabi meets Scott Ritter, ...
www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?specific_cases_and_issues=chalabi&timeline=complete_timeline..

That last link just links to a photo of Scott Ritter that was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons in August, 2007. I still don't see any evidence of that name being used before he started his Wikipedia account.
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Even if its a fake name.

Who cares? smile.gif

I'd guess it is real, since he's so keen on hobnobbing with celebrities and getting his name in the paper, etc - attribution for pictures.

Shankbone doesn't sound like that weird of a name.

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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 2:50pm) *
Shankbone is zeroa (shankbone), one of the components of the seder plate.

This observation seems to have gone by unnoticed, so let me elaborate.

On the Jewish holiday of Passover (Feast of the Paschal Lamb), there is a symbolic food symbolizing each part of the Passover Story. The Paschal Lamb is symbolized by a shankbone on the Seder Plate.

This is one of the few places in culture where the term 'shankbone' has any symbolic meaning.
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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:23pm) *

Even if its a fake name.

Who cares? smile.gif

I'd guess it is real, since he's so keen on hobnobbing with celebrities and getting his name in the paper, etc - attribution for pictures.

Shankbone doesn't sound like that weird of a name.

Of course it matters. Why has this guy, of all editors on Wikipedia been chosen by the Israeli Foreign Ministry to see the "reality in Israel" and that has been chosen as an event of such significance that it has been reported in the Jerusalem Post? It just happens to be someone that is going by a false name and who seems to be possibly concealing the fact that they are Jewish (they specifically lay out their ancestry as 1/4 Dutch, 1/4 Irish, and 1/2 German mentioning nothing about being Jewish).
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:27pm) *

QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 2:50pm) *
Shankbone is zeroa (shankbone), one of the components of the seder plate.

This observation seems to have gone by unnoticed, so let me elaborate.

On the Jewish holiday of Passover (Feast of the Paschal Lamb), there is a symbolic food symbolizing each part of the Passover Story. The Paschal Lamb is symbolized by a shankbone on the Seder Plate.

This is one of the few places in culture where the term 'shankbone' has any symbolic meaning.


there is neither here nor there, but per antisocialmedia.net sleuthing, weiss used to go by "pascallamb" or "pascalamb" for an aol account on "usenet".

So did Shankbone adopt this surname as a meatspace name as well? If there's no record of it ever being used a real-world surname, it wouldn't be the first case of a flamboyant self-promoter taking on a stage name in the real world.

and what makes one a "leading" wikipedia editor? self declaration?

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It would also give new meaning to the word, "meatpuppet"


I thought that Gary Weiss was older, though.
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