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> WMF Board Election Results, 2008, Announced 6/26/08
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post Wed 25th June 2008, 11:13pm
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Less than 24 or so hours to go, then?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Results

Last chance to go betting. I predict (still) that Dan Rosenthal will get it, from a gut feeling. I think Kohs will be Top 5.
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post Wed 25th June 2008, 11:17pm
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QUOTE(Rootology @ Wed 25th June 2008, 5:13pm) *
I think Kohs will be Top 5.
By "top 5", do you mean "one of the five candidates with the most votes on the first ballot" or "one of the last five candidates standing"? I find the first more likely than the second.

I've been trying to predict a winner all election, but I'm finding it very difficult to do so. I'm fairly confident that it won't be any of Greg, Kurt, Cimon Avaro, Paul Williams, Ting Chen, or me, but beyond that not much would surprise me.
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post Wed 25th June 2008, 11:41pm
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Rosenthal has no chance. Kohs also.

Given the statistics that say English Wikipedia has the most voters by far (not surprisingly), I think an English Wikipedia guy will win - probably Alex Bakharev, maybe Samuel Klein, and there's an outside shot that a few of the old-timers will choose Cimon Avaro. Among the foreigners, I expect Ad Huikeshoven and Harel to do very well.

So if you pin me to a winner, I'll take Alex. Not everyone chose him number 1, but many chose him highly, and he'll win a lot of head-to-head matchups.

This whole Schulze method confuses me. The most popular candidate might not win.
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post Wed 25th June 2008, 11:45pm
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QUOTE(Shalom @ Wed 25th June 2008, 5:41pm) *
Rosenthal has no chance.
Why?

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So if you pin me to a winner, I'll take Alex. Not everyone chose him number 1, but many chose him highly, and he'll win a lot of head-to-head matchups.
I was thinking of picking Alex before I decided to refrain from making a prediction entirely. Another one I was considering was Rosenthal, but I could hardly be seen to be copying Rootology. If it's neither of those to, I'd guess Bisanz.

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This whole Schulze method confuses me. The most popular candidate might not win.
Well, depends on your definition of "popular", doesn't it?
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post Wed 25th June 2008, 11:58pm
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QUOTE(sarcasticidealist @ Wed 25th June 2008, 7:17pm) *

QUOTE(Rootology @ Wed 25th June 2008, 5:13pm) *
I think Kohs will be Top 5.
By "top 5", do you mean "one of the five candidates with the most votes on the first ballot" or "one of the last five candidates standing"? I find the first more likely than the second.

Steve, what are you talking about? You make it sound like there are run-offs and elimination rounds. Please explain.

QUOTE(Shalom @ Wed 25th June 2008, 7:41pm) *

So if you pin me to a winner, I'll take Alex.


So, this guy could win?

That means increasing, not decreasing the total amount of traveling and promotion expences. I am not fully aware of Jimbo's expense reports but it is quite possible that $300 a person dinner with a billionaire American or a $500 a person informal entertainment with a Russian billionaire (indeed there are people in Moscow who have business talk in saunas and massage parlors) is a worthy effort to potentially get millions in sponsorship deals.

Man, I have to say, if he wins, the Wikipedia Review will be flush with new and hilarious topics for the next year!
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 12:08am
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Rosenthal is not going to win, he has a pretty poor reputation on enwiki. There was that incident with the undertow lately and he's well known as an all-around miserable git.

I don't have any predictions for the winners, the only candidates that I'm familiar with are unlikely to win. At least the arbcom elections are a bit more interesting.

I wish I'd been able to vote, Alex sounds like a sure bet for entertainment tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Rootology @ Wed 25th June 2008, 7:13pm) *

Less than 24 or so hours to go, then?

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2008/Results

Last chance to go betting. I predict (still) that Dan Rosenthal will get it, from a gut feeling. I think Kohs will be Top 5.


He better not get it. I've done my own super-seekrit intelligence on him, and he (IMO) is not fit. He is immature, a gamer (living in an artificial world - video games, social network sites, etc.), addicted to the internet (do a search on his name, and see what he is up to, all the while volunteering at Wikipedia in many capacities, and supposedly attending law school - ha!), power-hungry, narcissistic, arrogant, self-absorbed, delusional, mean, with a sick sense of entitlement moron. He may have PTSD - if it's true that he was directly involved in battle, and witnessed the atrocities, while serving in Iraq.

Don't get me wrong, my heart bleeds, (yes I have a bleeding heart) for the troops who are and have been to the war zone. I want these boys and girls home, and receive the proper help, medical and/or psychological help they need at the government's expense. This includes special pay for families of troops who are now affected because of the sacrifice the troops have been called to fight an unjust and ridiculously expensive war. This goes for SWATJester too, he needs to get off the internet for his own good. He doesn't know any better though. He's still in "battle mode."
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 12:24am
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th June 2008, 5:58pm) *
Steve, what are you talking about? You make it sound like there are run-offs and elimination rounds. Please explain.
Actually, in keeping with my custom on WMF election matters, I got that somewhat wrong. There aren't elimination rounds, though there are "runoffs" of a sort. Basically, the system aims to find the person who would win each of a series of head to head matchups against each of his opponents. This will often, although not always, result in the same winner as something more like an instant runoff vote would.

Of course, if there's no candidate for whom that is true, it gets more complicated.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 12:37am
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QUOTE(sarcasticidealist @ Wed 25th June 2008, 8:24pm) *

Of course, if there's no candidate for whom that is true, it gets more complicated.


Fie on this Markus Schulze! WHO is this guy, orchestrating election models, and we don't even know him, and Wikipedia doesn't have an article about him. I'll bet he's another of these hippie-dippy, free love, open source guys.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 12:44am
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Can we link these names to screenames - i have no idea who you are talking about.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 12:46am
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 25th June 2008, 6:44pm) *
Can we link these names to screenames - i have no idea who you are talking about.


Markus Schulze is the creator of the voting method being used in the election. Dan Rosenthal is SwatJester.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 12:50am
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QUOTE(sarcasticidealist @ Thu 26th June 2008, 10:46am) *

QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 25th June 2008, 6:44pm) *
Can we link these names to screenames - i have no idea who you are talking about.


Markus Schulze is the creator of the voting method being used in the election. Dan Rosenthal is SwatJester.


Thanks.

I would be surpirised to see Dan Rosenthal make it - too many controversial decisions on his part.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 1:05am
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 25th June 2008, 8:50pm) *

QUOTE(sarcasticidealist @ Thu 26th June 2008, 10:46am) *

QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 25th June 2008, 6:44pm) *
Can we link these names to screenames - i have no idea who you are talking about.


Markus Schulze is the creator of the voting method being used in the election. Dan Rosenthal is SwatJester.


Thanks.

I would be surpirised to see Dan Rosenthal make it - too many controversial decisions on his part.

Considering the shameful lapse in judgment and overall show of poor character from SWAT during this election coupled with his already established sad reputation, I give him little chance of winning this year. Not to mention, how many previous years has he run and failed?

I agree that Alex has a good shot at taking it.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 1:10am
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Wed 25th June 2008, 7:05pm) *
Not to mention, how many previous years has he run and failed?
For the WMF Board? Zero. The only repeat candidates we have this year are Samuel "Sj/Andy Dick" Klein (who ran in 2005) and Cimon Avaro (who ran in 2004, 2005, and 2006). Rosenthal has run for ArbComm before, though.
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 10:58am
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Seriously, I want to know who this Markus Schulze is, whose voting system is used by Wikimedia, Debian, Gentoo, and Software in the Public Interest (the company that tallied this year's Board election). There's something sinister here, I just haven't figured it out yet.

LinkedIn says he is "Team Leader Registration Services at SWITCH". And that totally looks like a CIA cover operation.

This can't be him, if he invented the voting system 11 years ago.

Is this him on Facebook? No, that's the St. Francis kid.

Is he the cinematographer for this film, which includes keywords Bang, Bavaria, Exorcism, and Computer?

This is all very scary to me.

Greg
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 11:24am
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So Sarcasticidealist, do you really look like a youthful Richard Gere in real life? I thought that photo would win alot of votes biggrin.gif
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 11:37am
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Is there a time planned for when the announcement will be made?

My money (if a bookie were stupid enough to take bets on this) would be on Ray Saintonge (Eclecticology).
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 26th June 2008, 6:58am) *

Seriously, I want to know who this Markus Schulze is …

Greg


He had a somewhat undistinguished service record during WW2 —

[imgx]http://www.nndb.com/people/181/000032085/schultz.jpg[/imgx]

I think he currently owns an ISP Startup in China, or maybe Russia …

Jon cool.gif

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Cla68 just e-mailed me, apologizing that while he went to the Voting page, by the time he had figured out how he wished to exactly rank all the candidates, the voting period had closed.

I'll leave it up to you to guess where he would have ranked me.

Damn.

QUOTE(Neil @ Thu 26th June 2008, 7:37am) *

Is there a time planned for when the announcement will be made?


More than half of the UTC day is past, and still not a peep. Could this mean that the Board has rejected the electorate's choice??!

Stay tuned!

Greg
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post Thu 26th June 2008, 1:29pm
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 26th June 2008, 2:14pm) *

Cla68 just e-mailed me, apologizing that while he went to the Voting page, by the time he had figured out how he wished to exactly rank all the candidates, the voting period had closed.

I'll leave it up to you to guess where he would have ranked me.

Damn.

QUOTE(Neil @ Thu 26th June 2008, 7:37am) *

Is there a time planned for when the announcement will be made?


More than half of the UTC day is past, and still not a peep. Could this mean that the Board has rejected the electorate's choice??!

Stay tuned!

Greg


Apparently once San Francisco has woken up, we'll be told. But knowing Wikimedia, the announcement won't be for another couple of weeks.
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