Ryulong might be going to arbitration Options

[LamontStormstar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

[Milton Roe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

Another Kabbalist with a Kount of 33, and an awesome 268 shared mainspace articles with Jayjg. A particularly nasty piece of work.

Here's the 33 articles edited with Jayjg, Jpgordon, and SlimVirgin. Notice any theme? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)


#1 Yasser_Arafat - edited by 4 of 4 users
#2 World_War_I - edited by 4 of 4 users
#3 Wikipedia - edited by 4 of 4 users
#4 The_Holocaust - edited by 4 of 4 users
#5 Terrorism - edited by 4 of 4 users
#6 Taliban - edited by 4 of 4 users
#7 Steven_Spielberg - edited by 4 of 4 users
#8 September_11_attacks - edited by 4 of 4 users
#9 Self-hating_Jew - edited by 4 of 4 users
#10 Saddam_Hussein - edited by 4 of 4 users
#11 Racism - edited by 4 of 4 users
#12 Osama_bin_Laden - edited by 4 of 4 users
#13 Nazism - edited by 4 of 4 users
#14 Nazi_Germany - edited by 4 of 4 users
#15 Mein_Kampf - edited by 4 of 4 users
#16 List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations - edited by 4 of 4 users
#17 Lebanon - edited by 4 of 4 users
#18 Judaism - edited by 4 of 4 users
#19 Jew_Watch - edited by 4 of 4 users
#20 Jew - edited by 4 of 4 users
#21 Jerusalem - edited by 4 of 4 users
#22 Holocaust_denial - edited by 4 of 4 users
#23 Hobo - edited by 4 of 4 users
#24 Grigori_Rasputin - edited by 4 of 4 users
#25 God - edited by 4 of 4 users
#26 Christianity - edited by 4 of 4 users
#27 British_National_Party - edited by 4 of 4 users
#28 Berlin_Wall - edited by 4 of 4 users
#29 Arnold_Schwarzenegger - edited by 4 of 4 users
#30 Antisemitism - edited by 4 of 4 users
#31 American_Jews - edited by 4 of 4 users
#32 Al-Qaeda - edited by 4 of 4 users
#33 Adolf_Hitler - edited by 4 of 4 users

[LamontStormstar]

I remember another thread here they found Crum375 was this Jewish person who came from Israel, did WTC or whatever, and now is tag-team controlling all these articles related to Israel.

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[Son of a Yeti]

Here's the 33 articles edited with Jayjg, Jpgordon, and SlimVirgin. Notice any theme? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

If they weren't admins and cabal members they would be all banned long ago as each other's socks.

[written by he who wrote it]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

Another Kabbalist with a Kount of 33, and an awesome 268 shared mainspace articles with Jayjg. A particularly nasty piece of work.

Here's the 33 articles edited with Jayjg, Jpgordon, and SlimVirgin. Notice any theme? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

[snip]

All his edits to these article that I examined were either vandalism reverts or otherwise minor and uncontroversial (e.g. category sorting). He has only 6 talk pages in common with the big three, and half of them (Talk:Wikipedia, Talk:Main Page, and Talk:September_11_attacks) are too high-profile to be significant. I think this is a false positive stemming from Ryulong's vandal patrolling: his main area of interest, where he actually does substantive editing, would seem to be the Power Rangers and similar garbage.

[LessHorrid vanU]

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Here's the 33 articles edited with Jayjg, Jpgordon, and SlimVirgin. Notice any theme? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

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You are listing them in reverse alphabetical order? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

[CharlotteWebb]

You are listing them in reverse alphabetical order? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

Probably intended as a form of satanic back-masking.

[Milton Roe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

Another Kabbalist with a Kount of 33, and an awesome 268 shared mainspace articles with Jayjg. A particularly nasty piece of work.

Here's the 33 articles edited with Jayjg, Jpgordon, and SlimVirgin. Notice any theme? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

[snip]

All his edits to these article that I examined were either vandalism reverts or otherwise minor and uncontroversial (e.g. category sorting). He has only 6 talk pages in common with the big three, and half of them (Talk:Wikipedia, Talk:Main Page, and Talk:September_11_attacks) are too high-profile to be significant. I think this is a false positive stemming from Ryulong's vandal patrolling: his main area of interest, where he actually does substantive editing, would seem to be the Power Rangers and similar garbage.

Interesting. Thanks for checking. We've seen some "false positives" before due to Huggle and people who edit everywhere. This is the first I've seen for somebody who did manual reversions. If not with Huggle, the question is why do they have these particular articles in their watchlist anyway?

You are listing them in reverse alphabetical order? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

Probably intended as a form of satanic back-masking.

No, they just come out of the Wikistalk common-articles-edited tool that way (reverse alphabetized). Don't ask me why.

http://toolserver.org/~bjweeks/cgi-bin/wikistalk.py

[Sarcasticidealist]

Interesting. Thanks for checking. We've seen some "false positives" before due to Huggle and people who edit everywhere. This is the first I've seen for somebody who did manual reversions. If not with Huggle, the question is why do they have these particular articles in their watchlist anyway?

Could be recent change patrolling.

[Milton Roe]

Interesting. Thanks for checking. We've seen some "false positives" before due to Huggle and people who edit everywhere. This is the first I've seen for somebody who did manual reversions. If not with Huggle, the question is why do they have these particular articles in their watchlist anyway?

Could be recent change patrolling.

No, for I did Ryulong's Kabbal Kount before Huggle got going. This is not the first time.

[Obesity]

Ryulong is an unfathomably rotten prick and is among the bottom of the barrel, as far as administrator temperament and professionalism are concerned.

Also, he's really into..... Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers. For some reason, that a purported college student is consumed by the brave deeds of the white ranger in 13th season is just.... creepy.

Anyway, note Ryulong's hilariously reasoned reaction when a wiki-peon has the temerity to nominate one of his beloved Power Rangers articles for deletion.

Speaking of creepy administrators, even FT2 agrees with me that this guy is no good. Check out the IRC log that FT2 links to on his user page. I miss that Videmus Omnia character....

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[Sarcasticidealist]

Could be recent change patrolling.

No, for I did Ryulong's Kabbal Kount before Huggle got going. This is not the first time.

I think you misunderstood me; I'm not talking about Huggle.

[victim of censorship]

Ryulong is an unfathomably rotten prick and is among the bottom of the barrel, as far as administrator temperament and professionalism are concerned.

Also, he's really into..... Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers. For some reason, that a purported college student is consumed by the brave deeds of the white ranger in 13th season is just.... creepy.

Anyway, note Ryulong's hilariously reasoned reaction when a wiki-peon has the temerity to nominate one of his beloved Power Rangers articles for deletion.

Speaking of creepy administrators, even FT2 agrees with me that this guy is no good. Check out the IRC log that FT2 links to on his user page. I miss that Videmus Omnia character....

I could not have said it better. Ryulong is power drunk little boy child, with delusions of grandeur and a true sociopath, in need of shock treatments. Ryulong's hatred for those that call him to task is a legend.

This manboy should be lockup in a nuthatch for the criminally insane.


Update... for some reasons why I think Rulong is need of being locked in a nuthatch some intresting links

Ryulong on deviant art

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[Milton Roe]

Could be recent change patrolling.

No, for I did Ryulong's Kabbal Kount before Huggle got going. This is not the first time.

I think you misunderstood me; I'm not talking about Huggle.

Can you get a feed of recent changes to the entire encyclopedia, as though all articles were on your private watchlist? Isn't that sort of like trying to drink from the proverbial firehose? How could you do it without automation?

[Sarcasticidealist]

Can you get a feed of recent changes to the entire encyclopedia, as though all articles were on your private watchlist? Isn't that sort of like trying to drink from the proverbial firehose? How could you do it without automation?

Like this.

(I personally never use this page; I can think of few things more mind-numbing. But for whatever reason, a lot of editors seem to enjoy "recent change patrolling".)

[Alex]

Can you get a feed of recent changes to the entire encyclopedia, as though all articles were on your private watchlist? Isn't that sort of like trying to drink from the proverbial firehose? How could you do it without automation?

Like this.

(I personally never use this page; I can think of few things more mind-numbing. But for whatever reason, a lot of editors seem to enjoy "recent change patrolling".)

It is called that more as a relic to the past than what actually happens. It is useful for feeding into programs like Huggle. On other less busy wikis, it's much more usable generally.

[EricBarbour]

Oh Jeeezus Christ. After TWO YEARS of Ryulong's bullshit, after endless examples of his abuse of rollback and rangeblocking,
after his being dragged to RFC or RFAR at least three times before (that I can find and there may be more)......

We get a new RFAR, full of the same old apathy, brown-nosing, cowardice and backpedaling.
Oh golly. Such fun.

Ryulong is EXCELLENT PROOF that adminship should have a limited time period.
It's just about time to can his ass.

If WP were well-run and well-designed, there would be no need for obsessive vandal patrolling.
Admit it, he's a (dubiously) necessary evil. This "project" would be better off without an admin who
loves to destroy people and is obsessed with Power Rangers. He's not worth the trouble.

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[Cla68]

Oh Jeeezus Christ. After TWO YEARS of Ryulong's bullshit, after endless examples of his abuse of rollback and rangeblocking,
after his being dragged to RFC or RFAR at least three times before (that I can find and there may be more)......

We get a new RFAR, full of the same old apathy, brown-nosing, cowardice and backpedaling.
Oh golly. Such fun.

Ryulong is EXCELLENT PROOF that adminship should have a limited time period.
It's just about time to can his ass.

If WP were well-run and well-designed, there would be no need for obsessive vandal patrolling.
Admit it, he's a (dubiously) necessary evil. This "project" would be better off without an admin who
loves to destroy people and is obsessed with Power Rangers. He's not worth the trouble.

Ryulong appears to find Kamen Rider a compelling and fascinating topic. In response to my question in that thread, Ryulong quotes the policy stating that reliable sources aren't necessary for articles on fictional subjects. My first impulse was to ask, "Why would you want to write an article on a fictional subject?"

I don't know, I guess fictional subjects are part of the artistic areas of this world which help enrich the lives of us humans. As far as Kamen Rider goes, though, I neglected to pay it any further attention once my son stopped watching it when he was about six years old.

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[Piperdown]

Oh Jeeezus Christ. After TWO YEARS of Ryulong's bullshit, after endless examples of his abuse of rollback and rangeblocking,
after his being dragged to RFC or RFAR at least three times before (that I can find and there may be more)......

We get a new RFAR, full of the same old apathy, brown-nosing, cowardice and backpedaling.
Oh golly. Such fun.

Ryulong is EXCELLENT PROOF that adminship should have a limited time period.
It's just about time to can his ass.

If WP were well-run and well-designed, there would be no need for obsessive vandal patrolling.
Admit it, he's a (dubiously) necessary evil. This "project" would be better off without an admin who
loves to destroy people and is obsessed with Power Rangers. He's not worth the trouble.

Apparently WP needs infantile OCD'ers to patrol infantile OCD spawned articles. And Ryulong is just the manchild for that. At least he's not gone postal on Miami U and is just going postal on WP.

As part of a RfA, and what should be an annual Sanity Check (literally), WP should give a short 10 question psyche profile quizzer to these folks. You'll probably find from those that a significant % of WP admins are nutters.

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[Somey]

Update... for some reasons why I think Rulong is need of being locked in a nuthatch some intresting links

Ryulong on deviant art

I'm guessing he deleted some stuff from his DeviantArt page...? Or is the trash can with eyeballs on it supposed to be sufficient evidence of nuttery? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)

I'd steal it for the avatar gallery, but... naaaah!

[Ryulong]

Daw... I didn't think you guys still cared.

[EricBarbour]

Daw... I didn't think you guys still cared.

Yes, son, we do care. We care to see you desysopped.

Shut off your damned computer, go out and find a girlfriend or something.

[Son of a Yeti]

Ryulong is EXCELLENT PROOF that adminship should have a limited time period.

The idea sounds nice but after a minute or two spend pondering it in a comfort station, one starts to see the problems:

(a) there would be even more teenage admins as most older ones would be already dehammered.
(b) the scum admins would most probably try to get a sock account sysoped shortly before the two year time limit.

The end result would be WP would have only teens and/or psychopaths as its admins. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif)


(Caveat: some of you may claim it's already true)

[Cla68]

Daw... I didn't think you guys still cared.

By the way, I think it's perfectly fine to have an article about the show Kamen Rider, but why have separate articles about each of the fictional characters in the show?

[Ryulong]

Daw... I didn't think you guys still cared.

By the way, I think it's perfectly fine to have an article about the show Kamen Rider, but why have separate articles about each of the fictional characters in the show?

Why not?

[Bottled_Spider]

Daw... I didn't think you guys still cared.

By the way, I think it's perfectly fine to have an article about the show Kamen Rider, but why have separate articles about each of the fictional characters in the show?

Why not?

That's right. You tell them. I don't really know who "Kamen Rider" is, or what he wants, but I suspect there's a huge undercurrent of mystery and homoeroticism there, which is fine by me (being a modern man, and all that). Ryulong - rhymes with "dong", right?

[CharlotteWebb]

I don't know jack about this show either but it does seem to have a huge cult following. I remember Sean Black was really into it and nobody thought he was nuts.

I know a lot of folks here have issues with Ryulong but I don't why do you have to give him shit about the one thing he does that can't possibly be affecting you.

[Bottled_Spider]

I don't know jack about this show either but it does seem to have a huge cult following.

Indeed it does. But you've mis-spelled "cult".

I know a lot of folks here have issues with Ryulong but I don't why do you have to give him shit about the one thing he does that can't possibly be affecting you.

Well, Lottso, as I've said before (I think) the whole point is to just enjoy yourself. That's what Wikipedo Review is all about. For me, anyway. Hugs.

[Ahypori]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

The case has now been opened by MBisanz. I'm currently neutral in regards to the case, but at first I didn't think it was going to get accepted: instead it has nine arbitrators supporting and none opposing.

I'll think I'll watch the case: I'm interested in how in turns out.

[Alex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

The case has now been opened by MBisanz. I'm currently neutral in regards to the case, but at first I didn't think it was going to get accepted: instead it has nine arbitrators supporting and none opposing.

I'll think I'll watch the case: I'm interested in how in turns out.

Well as I said in my statement, he's been a problem since the beginning, and should never have even been made an admin.

[Ahypori]

Well as I said in my statement, he's been a problem since the beginning, and should never have even been made an admin.

Funnily enough, Ryulong 3 was the first RfA I ever participated in (support). I've often speculated that, had Ryulong gone on to have a fourth RfA (rather than had the third closed at 68% as successful), it's possible that the RfCs and the current arbitration case now opened regarding his tool use and conduct wouldn't be happening, as he would have taken on board what would have led to RfA#3 being unsuccessful, and would be a much better administrator. Unfortunately, we won't know. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) I dunno...maybe I'm being too generous here.

For the record, does anyone remember what Raul654's rationale for closing that RfA as successful was?

[Cla68]

Daw... I didn't think you guys still cared.

By the way, I think it's perfectly fine to have an article about the show Kamen Rider, but why have separate articles about each of the fictional characters in the show?

Why not?

Because fictional subjects don't require reliable sources, which means that they don't have to pass the "notability" and other standards. For example, the article about the Gel-shocker fictional organization from the show lists as it's sole source some fan's website. Obviously, that would never pass for a non-fictional topic. It's ridiculously amateurish. To be fair, you didn't start that article and have apparently made only one edit to it, but don't you think that articles like that one are an embarrassment to Wikipedia?

[Alex]

For the record, does anyone remember what Raul654's rationale for closing that RfA as successful was?

Something like "I spoke to him a bit on IRC, and I think he's a good guy".

[Ahypori]

For the record, does anyone remember what Raul654's rationale for closing that RfA as successful was?

Something like "I spoke to him a bit on IRC, and I think he's a good guy".

Really? Wow...I remember the anger WJBscribe got for promoting ^demon at 63%. At least his rationale for granting adminship in that case wasn't something along the lines of "I like this user".

[Shalom]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F Renesis is especially vocal for his/her outrage.

I'm sorry, but the claim that I'm putting words in your mouth is completely ridiculous. You said nothing besides "based on 'my interactions...", and I haven't claimed you've said anything else. And I'd like to know why 65%, but not 68%, 70% or 75%? Why any mention of numbers, if this entire thing is based on "discretion"? -- Renesis (talk) 08:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Raul654 clarifies:

It's not based *solely* on my interactions with him, and yes, that's the word you are putting in my mouth. I said I promoted him based on my interaction with him. I did not say I did so to the exclusion of the community's commentary. My interaction with him was the deciding factor, but not the only one. Raul654 08:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Contrary to Majorly's fuzzy memory of the incident, Raul654 did not say he conversed with Ryulong on IRC about the RFA. He did say:

yes, I have interacted with Ryulong on IRC, as I have interacted on IRC with many hundreds of other people. ...
As to this RFA, the first time Ryulong knew of my interest in his RFA was when I told him I intended to promote him, about 5 minutes before I did. Raul654 08:57, 24 January 2007

One other comment from that discussion, by Somitho, bears repeating here:

Ryulong has been granted the tools, and has promised to use them well. IF he breaks policy and goes nutso; then take it up with arbcom.

Prophetic?

[EricBarbour]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F

What a perfect example of Raul's arrogant, corrupt and power-mongering personality.

Can we get an RFAR against him for once?

[LaraLove]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F

What a perfect example of Raul's arrogant, corrupt and power-mongering personality.

Can we get an RFAR against him for once?

Well-deserved, but pointless. It would go nowhere. He holds way too much power and ArbCom wouldn't do jack to him. That's why you haven't seen a case against him.

[Alex]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F

What a perfect example of Raul's arrogant, corrupt and power-mongering personality.

Can we get an RFAR against him for once?

Well-deserved, but pointless. It would go nowhere. He holds way too much power and ArbCom wouldn't do jack to him. That's why you haven't seen a case against him.

Perhaps because no one has bothered to. If people got up of their arse to make a case instead of coming here to spend their lives whining about how x admin is a bitch and ruined my life etc etc then we'd get a lot more done.

[Malleus]

Perhaps because no one has bothered to. If people got up of their arse to make a case instead of coming here to spend their lives whining about how x admin is a bitch and ruined my life etc etc then we'd get a lot more done.

What species of people are these that have to share a single arse?

[Alex]

Perhaps because no one has bothered to. If people got up of their arse to make a case instead of coming here to spend their lives whining about how x admin is a bitch and ruined my life etc etc then we'd get a lot more done.

What species of people are these that have to share a single arse?

Perhaps yourself?