Unimportant Decision 2010 Options

[Lar]

Damn...and all of that money ready to be inherited, too! I better get myself set up as Lar's son-in-law before he kicks the bucket!

Roxie's in the hospital too ... I don't think she'll be dating for a while in any case.

Sorry to disappoint you though, my prognosis is improving.

[GlassBeadGame]

The peasants...

When ever you see the "peasant" analogy you know you're in for a "more democracy" rant. More Power to the Editors will only make things worse...by which I mean more irresponsible and unanswerable to the concerns of the wider society.

[powercorrupts]

The peasants...

When ever you see the "peasant" analogy you know you're in for a "more democracy" rant. More Power to the Editors will only make things worse...by which I mean more irresponsible and unanswerable to the concerns of the wider society.

Is that a fact? And where the fuck was the supposed "more democracy rant"? All I did was explain why the WMF themselves don't want admin to have fixed terms. Clearly you are happy with admin keeping their lifetime honours - which suits your personality I must admit.

I reckon you are the only person on WReview who actually got thrown out of Wikipedia for being too hard line. I also suspect that you found yourself banned before you actually read you were seriously in trouble. And I also reckon that if they apologised profusely and very humbly asked for you to return, you'd be back in a shot slagging this site and its contributors to the max.

[GlassBeadGame]

The peasants...

When ever you see the "peasant" analogy you know you're in for a "more democracy" rant. More Power to the Editors will only make things worse...by which I mean more irresponsible and unanswerable to the concerns of the wider society.

Is that a fact? And where the fuck was the supposed "more democracy rant"? All I did was explain why the WMF themselves don't want admin to have fixed terms. Clearly you are happy with admin keeping their lifetime honours - which suits your personality I must admit.

I reckon you are the only person on WReview who actually got thrown out of Wikipedia for being too hard line. I also suspect that you found yourself banned before you actually read you were seriously in trouble. And I also reckon that if they apologised profusely and very humbly asked for you to return, you'd be back in a shot slagging this site and its contributors to the max.

You're remarkably consistent in wanting more of everything that makes Wikipedia terrible. Also you need to clarify in your own mind what exactly "the WMF" actually is. Or what WR is for that matter. A bunch of Wikipedians like you can't just show up here and decide what this place is about. You're a confused mess of sloppy thinking that focuses on the wrong issues. The result is threads like this.

[powercorrupts]

The peasants...

When ever you see the "peasant" analogy you know you're in for a "more democracy" rant. More Power to the Editors will only make things worse...by which I mean more irresponsible and unanswerable to the concerns of the wider society.

Is that a fact? And where the fuck was the supposed "more democracy rant"? All I did was explain why the WMF themselves don't want admin to have fixed terms. Clearly you are happy with admin keeping their lifetime honours - which suits your personality I must admit.

I reckon you are the only person on WReview who actually got thrown out of Wikipedia for being too hard line. I also suspect that you found yourself banned before you actually read you were seriously in trouble. And I also reckon that if they apologised profusely and very humbly asked for you to return, you'd be back in a shot slagging this site and its contributors to the max.

You're remarkably consistent in wanting more of everything that makes Wikipedia terrible. Also you need to clarify in your own mind what exactly "the WMF" actually is. Or what WR is for that matter. A bunch of Wikipedians like you can't just show up here and decide what this place is about. You're a confused mess of sloppy thinking that focuses on the wrong issues. The result is threads like this.

"A bunch of Wikipedians like you can't just show up here and decide what this place is about. "

It's always a rainy day for you, isn't it.

"Also you need to clarify in your own mind what exactly "the WMF" actually is. Or what WR is for that matter."

Either I'm remarkably consistent or I'm not?! As it happens, I'm focused and I pretty much 'stick to it' in all my posts (however sticky they are). I've already asked you and the other Mods what they hell Wikipedia Review is meant to be about, so don't turn that one round on me.

"the wrong issues"

Once a Bride of Wikipedia, always one, eh?

This post has been edited by powercorrupts: Thu 2nd December 2010, 7:59pm

[GlassBeadGame]

Either I'm remarkably consistent or I'm not!

No contradiction here. You're consistently wrong and shallow.

[powercorrupts]

Either I'm remarkably consistent or I'm not!

No contradiction here. You're consistently wrong and shallow.

And so it scrolls. These are nothing but empty words from you, connectionless, and meaningless.

[radek]

Next thing I wanna know is how I can get hooked up with writing one of those "A Personal Appeal from Wikipedia Author Volunteer Marek" that pops up uptop. I can make my appeal VERY personal.

"I got a lot of funny looks ten days ago when I started talking to people about Wikipedia. I was very very very depressed, my cat was just diagnosed with leukemia, my roommate once again didn't do his share of the dishes, I had forgotten to return a call from my mother, I was bored with the book I was reading, there was an annoying itch above my left buttock, I hadn't shaved in three days, the shower was always too hot or too cold, never just right, I came to the conclusion that Oskar Kokoshka was vastly overrated as an artist, and Louis Ferdinand Celine as a writer, the washing machine ate yet another of my socks, the voters in Madagascar had just returned a candidate I particularly loathed, there was nothing on TV except poker, I had a ham sandwich for lunch that day, work was boring as usual, there are exactly forty eight steps between my back door and the garage, my great great great uncle had been sent to Siberia by the Tsar, the horoscope in the local paper was especially banal that day, no, I did not find that episode of that sitcom humorous, I had mixed feelings about cucumber salad and I was up for a block over at AN/I.

Let's just say that some people were skeptical about whether the money I was paying my psychiatrist was really well spent. Feelings of overwhelming hopelessness alternated with bouts of mind numbing boredom. It was then that I realized the importance of sharing..."

[Gruntled]

"Vote for Lar 2.0 ... new and improved, now(1) with 100%(2) less appendix!"


1 - technically this was not true at the start of the campaign but it is now!

2 - hopefully... there is some question about that actually... it may only be 97% or so, which would be a problem.... we'll see

Hmm ... no light matter, having an appendix out at your age (not that I'm demeaning more mature people!) Exactly what was taken out will depend on various factors, such as whether there was any ulceration. But i wish you a speedy full recovery.

[A Horse With No Name]

"Vote for Lar 2.0 ... new and improved, now(1) with 100%(2) less appendix!"

Hmm ... no light matter, having an appendix out at your age (not that I'm demeaning more mature people!) Exactly what was taken out will depend on various factors, such as whether there was any ulceration. But i wish you a speedy full recovery.

Lar is among the oldest people on Wikipedia. I know that Risker is older -- she was a nurse in the Boer War -- but Lar is certainly in the geriatric top 10.

[Milton Roe]

Lar is among the oldest people on Wikipedia. I know that Risker is older -- she was a nurse in the Boer War -- but Lar is certainly in the geriatric top 10.

You're close, but no cigar. What happened is that Risker, as a young nurse at the Italian front during WW I, had a literarally-important flirtation with Ernest Hemingway.

[EricBarbour]

Lar is among the oldest people on Wikipedia. I know that Risker is older -- she was a nurse in the Boer War -- but Lar is certainly in the geriatric top 10.

You're close, but no cigar. What happened is that Risker, as a young nurse at the Italian front during WW I, had a literarally-important flirtation with Ernest Hemingway.

And now, she's obsessed with James Blunt. I'm thinking, "downgrade".

I guess you get less quality-oriented as you get older, eh?

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Next thing I wanna know is how I can get hooked up with writing one of those "A Personal Appeal from Wikipedia Author Volunteer Marek" that pops up uptop. I can make my appeal VERY personal.

"I got a lot of funny looks ten days ago when I started talking to people about Wikipedia. I was very very very depressed, my cat was just diagnosed with leukemia, my roommate once again didn't do his share of the dishes, I had forgotten to return a call from my mother, I was bored with the book I was reading, there was an annoying itch above my left buttock, I hadn't shaved in three days, the shower was always too hot or too cold, never just right, I came to the conclusion that Oskar Kokoshka was vastly overrated as an artist, and Louis Ferdinand Celine as a writer, the washing machine ate yet another of my socks, the voters in Madagascar had just returned a candidate I particularly loathed, there was nothing on TV except poker, I had a ham sandwich for lunch that day, work was boring as usual, there are exactly forty eight steps between my back door and the garage, my great great great uncle had been sent to Siberia by the Tsar, the horoscope in the local paper was especially banal that day, no, I did not find that episode of that sitcom humorous, I had mixed feelings about cucumber salad and I was up for a block over at AN/I.

Let's just say that some people were skeptical about whether the money I was paying my psychiatrist was really well spent. Feelings of overwhelming hopelessness alternated with bouts of mind numbing boredom. It was then that I realized the importance of sharing..."

How could they not have tapped you already?

My voting guide is up. Everybody's doing it. Thought I'd get in on the action.

supporting GeorgeWilliamHerbert??? you're a moron.

You didn't read the fine print.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I haven't read the earlier posts in this thread -- have you folks picked up on this eruption of drama around Giano's refusal to self-identify?

[Lar]

I haven't read the earlier posts in this thread -- have you folks picked up on this eruption of drama around Giano's refusal to self-identify?

It's been geysering in various places for days now. Quite the show. It's an interesting way to force a constitutional crisis that Giano's come up with, at the very least, as Jimbo has painted himself into a corner.

Me, I think he can function as an arb without access to any secret stuff. I think it will be very hard, and it will place a far greater (and unfair?) burden on all the other arbs to do more circumlocution, more setting up multiple lists, and they will have to do more of the routine scut work (oversighting, cu work and the like) which actually take up the vast majority of what it is they do. but it's doable.

Other folks I trust a lot are adamant there is absolutely no way it will work, that almost every case has secret stuff in it... But I think it should be at least tried, assuming Giano gets one of the top 12 places. Which with this diminished and rather lackluster (excepting certain sparkly/iridescent candidates) field, might not at all be unlikely.

[Peter Damian]

I haven't read the earlier posts in this thread -- have you folks picked up on this eruption of drama around Giano's refusal to self-identify?

He is also doing good and interesting things here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...mprove_security . Apparently Arbcom keeps files on the more badly behaved or ex-members of the community. I checked up and he is right about the legal aspects (I think).

[thekohser]

He is also doing good and interesting things here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...mprove_security . Apparently Arbcom keeps files on the more badly behaved or ex-members of the community. I checked up and he is right about the legal aspects (I think).

While the ArbCommies say that Giano has no secret files, I am of the understanding that I do have one. Therefore, I'm authorizing Giano to make the same request he made, ON MY BEHALF, and I will publicly share the contents of any ArbCom-based file that it has on me.

[EricBarbour]

I haven't read the earlier posts in this thread -- have you folks picked up on this eruption of drama around Giano's refusal to self-identify?

That lad has an amazing talent for provoking the Wiki-pathetic.

For example, the comments thereafter. Voting "NO" were some of the worst nerds on WP, including several notorious admins who have abused their powers in the past, AND who go to great lengths to maintain their OWN anonymity. Fucking hypocrites.

I'm really, really sorry about this, and I'd love to check the 'yes' box, because I support the thoughts behind Giano's standing... but if we want a more open ArbCom, this is the best place to start. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 16:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

No. Agree with the statements on this issue by Jimbo Wales (talk · contribs), at this page and his user talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 00:18, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

"More open Arbcom"? You should start with your own houses.

While the ArbCommies say that Giano has no secret files, I am of the understanding that I do have one. Therefore, I'm authorizing Giano to make the same request he made, ON MY BEHALF, and I will publicly share the contents of any ArbCom-based file that it has on me.

Dollar says they won't do it--because the contents of said file would
make them look like damned crazy fools.

This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Mon 6th December 2010, 8:46pm

[Peter Damian]

Here is a guide to the UK legislation. It covers any 'organisation', AFAICS.

http://www.yourlegalrights.co.uk/employment/data-protection

Is there equivalent US legisation?

[thekohser]

Here is a guide to the UK legislation. It covers any 'organisation', AFAICS.

http://www.yourlegalrights.co.uk/employment/data-protection

Is there equivalent US legisation?

I think any laws that pertain to personally identifiable information apply only to the government itself (e.g., the GSA) or to regulated industries (e.g., the financial sector that scuttled Wikia Search).