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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Wed 25th August 2010, 6:33pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th August 2010, 7:51pm) Woman who can't seem to settle down to a real job commits to doing 100 jobs for $100 each. That's $10,000, folks -- still poverty level. I don't even know what to say... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mi01qvxxWQDefinitely must-see-TV. No idea what to say either... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif) That's astonishing! I don't know what to say either-er! QUOTE That's right! I met you going down the stairs, and there was this young man who kept taking photos of us, and I asked the guy "who are you?" - Joe Francis - and you laughed, and that's how we started talking.
I can't make out what he says right after that, at 3:26 or so, right before the girls gone wild cover - anyone? Help? I recommend everyone watch this video, with the caveat that after about 30sec of listening to her, I started smelling burnt popcorn. Did Jimbo understand his conversation was going direct to Youtube? Why is he hiring someone to do what he's built his empire on getting for free? I'm not sure, but I think this might be awesome.
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QUOTE For every successful pro gamer, there's bunch of nerds who try and fail. It's just like how not every kid who plays football gets to be as rich as Beckham. And Jimbo is in fact a professional gamer in the middle of thousands of nerds. He's the only one playing the free encyclopedia game without much effort, and is getting almost all the money, with 10% going to his primary mates on the board. Stop using his product and it will die. Now convince all the people out there to do the same, but they don't care!
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 26th August 2010, 6:23am) QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Wed 25th August 2010, 6:33pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th August 2010, 7:51pm) Woman who can't seem to settle down to a real job commits to doing 100 jobs for $100 each. That's $10,000, folks -- still poverty level. I don't even know what to say... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mi01qvxxWQDefinitely must-see-TV. No idea what to say either... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif) That's astonishing! I don't know what to say either-er! QUOTE That's right! I met you going down the stairs, and there was this young man who kept taking photos of us, and I asked the guy "who are you?" - Joe Francis - and you laughed, and that's how we started talking.
I can't make out what he says right after that, at 3:26 or so, right before the girls gone wild cover - anyone? Help? I recommend everyone watch this video, with the caveat that after about 30sec of listening to her, I started smelling burnt popcorn. Did Jimbo understand his conversation was going direct to Youtube? Why is he hiring someone to do what he's built his empire on getting for free? I'm not sure, but I think this might be awesome. He started talking because she was an attractive young lady, not the usual Wiki-nerd. $100, less making the video of the call including editing, less international call charges, less cost of Blackberry and computer equipment. In labour and overheads she has already blown the $100, she is working for free.
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Middle aged encyclopedia salesman takes charming young D-list model, young enough to be daughter, to dinner and pays her $100 for the pleasure. Middle aged encyclopedia salesman gives young model his personal phone number and hires her for a job in 2012!?! Middle aged encyclopedia salesman encourages young model to call and calls her often to discuss "the job". Did this $100 come out of his own pocket or is it accounted for to and by Wikia? Middle aged encyclopedia salesman uses the unpaid labor of NPO workers to promote his own for profit corporation and having his fancy tickled if he can, a girl in every convention town ... Does the young woman know what scrutiny is likely to happen to her if she succumbs? It is probably a 'first' for an encyclopedia salesman/founder even to have groupie action. he has probably only got a couple of more years of it left before he has to pay for it outright (or was that Moscow?) and so good luck to him if he can. This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy:
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Meanwhile his company, Wikia, is funneling visitors to Wikileaks.org where they can read illegally obtained classified documents, and he's not very interested and taking no responsibility.
I wonder if she knows that by working for Wikia, she is indirectly putting Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan at risk.
As we've discussed elsewhere, Wikia owns www.wikileaks.com, www.wikileaks.net, and www.wikileaks.us, all of which show the content of Wikileaks.org.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th August 2010, 11:51pm) I don't even know what to say...
Ok, I´ll say something! Am I the only person who think this lady looks as if she is on drugs? Or is it normal for young women in North America to act this...."silly"? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 26th August 2010, 7:26pm) Am I the only person who think this lady looks as if she is on drugs? Or is it normal for young women in North America to act this...."silly"? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Quite normal - we call it "social assimilation training," though most people just call it "high school." Meanwhile, I was on Yahoo!Answers the other day and noticed that someone had posted a link to a new " Health Care Wikia." I'd been under the impression that although the Wikia staff don't actually check to see what people are doing with their website, at least the small army of Wikiland Forest Creatures checked sites like Y!A on a regular basis, would have seen the link, and would have notified the right person(s) at Wikia that this was going on. Inexplicably, they either haven't done so, or the Wikia people think this material is perfectly appropriate - I would have assumed they'd delete it almost instantaneously. Instead, this has been up for at least three days, and who knows what else is buried in their bewildering number of (mostly moribund) subdomains. Maybe they should pay this woman $100 to help them figure shit like this out.
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 26th August 2010, 5:26pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th August 2010, 11:51pm) I don't even know what to say...
Ok, I´ll say something! Am I the only person who think this lady looks as if she is on drugs? Or is it normal for young women in North America to act this...."silly"? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) No, you're not alone, and I'm from there. The video lasts exactly 4:20, and not a second too soon!
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QUOTE(The Adversary @ Fri 27th August 2010, 1:26am) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th August 2010, 11:51pm) I don't even know what to say...
Ok, I´ll say something! Am I the only person who think this lady looks as if she is on drugs? Or is it normal for young women in North America to act this...."silly"? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) I think it is a young person in front of a camera thing - nothing particularly American or female about it, it is universally depressing to see the "Look at me I'm so gingerblonde, duh!" routine acted out.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 27th August 2010, 1:42am) QUOTE(The Adversary @ Thu 26th August 2010, 7:26pm) Am I the only person who think this lady looks as if she is on drugs? Or is it normal for young women in North America to act this...."silly"? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Quite normal - we call it "social assimilation training," though most people just call it "high school." Meanwhile, I was on Yahoo!Answers the other day and noticed that someone had posted a link to a new " Health Care Wikia." I'd been under the impression that although the Wikia staff don't actually check to see what people are doing with their website, at least the small army of Wikiland Forest Creatures checked sites like Y!A on a regular basis, would have seen the link, and would have notified the right person(s) at Wikia that this was going on. Inexplicably, they either haven't done so, or the Wikia people think this material is perfectly appropriate - I would have assumed they'd delete it almost instantaneously. Instead, this has been up for at least three days, and who knows what else is buried in their bewildering number of (mostly moribund) subdomains. Maybe they should pay this woman $100 to help them figure shit like this out. How does Wikia not spot this, obviously written by teenage boy on summer vacation - bring back National Service I say. Tackiest Q & A: Q: Can a female dog ejaculate? A: Im not sure, but i will try to find its clitoris to see if it can be stimulated. Isn't that a fine example of all that has gone wrong with the apostrophe in the modern world?
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Wed 25th August 2010, 10:23pm) I recommend everyone watch this video, with the caveat that after about 30sec of listening to her, I started smelling burnt popcorn. Did Jimbo understand his conversation was going direct to Youtube? Why is he hiring someone to do what he's built his empire on getting for free? He doesn't care. It's free publicity, and "all publicity is good publicity". ( (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) ) Gee, thanks for lowering my IQ, Greg. Aimee is quite annoying, so I presume she will go far. (Although I thought this was far more entertaining than her "Jimbo conversation". On 2nd thought, put "entertaining" in quotes. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/yecch.gif) )
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Fri 27th August 2010, 2:35am) How does Wikia not spot this, obviously written by teenage boy on summer vacation - bring back National Service I say. In the USA we call it "Boot Camp for Troubled Teens," but the kid's parents probably think their precious youngster is inventing the next generation of windowed operating systems in their basement. That's assuming they didn't actually put him up to it themselves... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif) IMO we have to assume Wikia is either not checking at all, or they only check once every two weeks or every month or so. If that. More likely they don't lift a finger unless someone complains to them directly. So of course I'm not going to complain to them directly... QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 27th August 2010, 2:45am) Aimee is quite annoying, so I presume she will go far. We should hire her ourselves, to spend 4 or 5 hours going through the List of Wikias to find the ones that are basically nothing but sexual content about little kids (and/or animals). She might not want to upload a Youtube video of that one, though, so there'd be less promotional value for us, I suppose.
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Fri 27th August 2010, 3:32am) QUOTE(The Adversary @ Fri 27th August 2010, 1:26am) QUOTE(thekohser @ Wed 25th August 2010, 11:51pm) I don't even know what to say...
Ok, I´ll say something! Am I the only person who think this lady looks as if she is on drugs? Or is it normal for young women in North America to act this...."silly"? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) I think it is a young person in front of a camera thing - nothing particularly American or female about it, it is universally depressing to see the "Look at me I'm so gingerblonde, duh!" routine acted out. Except that she's 30, and a mom. She's also made some of her videos on YT "private", so presumably is reading along. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif)
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Fri 27th August 2010, 8:31am) Except that she's 30, and a mom. She's also made some of her videos on YT "private", so presumably is reading along. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif) In the (hopefully unlikely) case that youtube makes http_referer information available to uploaders, I advise disabling it (set network.http.sendRefererHeader to "0" in about:config). QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Fri 27th August 2010, 7:35am) A: Im not sure, but i will try to find its clitoris to see if it can be stimulated.
Isn't that a fine example of all that has gone wrong with the apostrophe in the modern world?
At least the respondent didn't get Greg's goat by writing "it's". This post has been edited by CharlotteWebb:
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QUOTE(Seurat @ Fri 27th August 2010, 7:34am) I admire her spirit. I maintain my admiration even if this project turns out to have been unproductive I admire her spirit. But I will lose my admiration if the Wikia project turns out to become reproductive. Do we have a mole reporting back to the mothership passing messages onto Jimmy Wales who calls anyone has given his 'Midas' touched? What would be funny is if Jimbo had no idea it was going live. Shame she did not get more out him ... she could have out Marsdened Marsden. (Note to any prospective dates or golddiggers: a) make sure you grab anything remotely ebay-able when you leave, b) get it all recorded on some digital media, c) upload a copy of /Users/Jimmy_Wales/Library/Mail to Wiki-leaks ... No, hold on, let's think that last one through again. Contact someone here first). This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy:
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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 26th August 2010, 8:42pm) Meanwhile, I was on Yahoo!Answers the other day and noticed that someone had posted a link to a new " Health Care Wikia." I'd been under the impression that although the Wikia staff don't actually check to see what people are doing with their website, at least the small army of Wikiland Forest Creatures checked sites like Y!A on a regular basis, would have seen the link, and would have notified the right person(s) at Wikia that this was going on. Inexplicably, they either haven't done so, or the Wikia people think this material is perfectly appropriate - I would have assumed they'd delete it almost instantaneously. Instead, this has been up for at least three days, and who knows what else is buried in their bewildering number of (mostly moribund) subdomains. Maybe they should pay this woman $100 to help them figure shit like this out. After 21 days, I couldn't take it any more, so I e-mailed Gil Penchina, and within an evening, the site was down. We ran a WebCite over it, though. Gil offered me an unpaid position at Wikia, to help look for crap like that. I declined his offer. Excellent find, Somey.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 16th September 2010, 2:44pm) Gil offered me an unpaid position at Wikia, to help look for crap like that.
I declined his offer.
Excellent find, Somey.
An unpaid position; are you shitting me? They have two positions on their jobs page that could encompass the task Community ManagerDirector, Product Management
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QUOTE(jayvdb @ Thu 16th September 2010, 6:28pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 16th September 2010, 2:44pm) Gil offered me an unpaid position at Wikia, to help look for crap like that.
I declined his offer.
Excellent find, Somey.
An unpaid position; are you shitting me? They have two positions on their jobs page that could encompass the task Community ManagerDirector, Product ManagementYou do realize that these are the sort of people who do not mind being paid, while asking other people to help them in the same enterprise, for free? They don't feel the least guilty about it. They really are a spectacular example of why the world in general is so fucked up. A very large fraction of people can actually run enterprises in which the underlings who do an important part of the work, are carrying the load and being worn down and finally wiped out-- and yet the people at the top just don't let this state bother them. Human history is filled with it. The people at the top-- the officer's corps or white shirts or "management," or tenured bunch or permanent staff or whatever-- feel that anybody "under" them, and not genetically related to them, might as well be draft animals. Hell, meat animals.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 17th September 2010, 1:42am) QUOTE(jayvdb @ Thu 16th September 2010, 6:28pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 16th September 2010, 2:44pm) Gil offered me an unpaid position at Wikia, to help look for crap like that.
I declined his offer.
Excellent find, Somey.
An unpaid position; are you shitting me? They have two positions on their jobs page that could encompass the task Community ManagerDirector, Product ManagementYou do realize that these are the sort of people who do not mind being paid, while asking other people to help them in the same enterprise, for free? They don't feel the least guilty about it. I'm guessing that the CEO didn't offer Greg a position at Wikia, and Greg's 'unpaid position' was more akin to a wiki permission, enabling Greg to be part of their community. But I'm surprised that the CEO of Wikia offered Greg an unpaid anything. Has he never heard of Greg? A more sensible approach would have been to offer him a very well paid job that requires relocating to San Francisco, knowing he wouldn't accept it for a multitude of reasons. Or offer nothing at all.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 16th September 2010, 9:44am) After 21 days, I couldn't take it any more, so I e-mailed Gil Penchina, and within an evening, the site was down. We ran a WebCite over it, though. Gil offered me an unpaid position at Wikia, to help look for crap like that. I declined his offer... Hey, if they'd let you take down entire subdomains, you should have taken it! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) I mean, they've supposedly got as many as 150,000 subdomains, and I only found that one by an accident of timing, because someone had just created it when I was looking at the "List of New Wikias" - for some reason I can't quite recall. Their "Hiring" page is mostly BS, I should add - none of those jobs have "check for inappropriate sexually-oriented content about underage children" in their descriptions, or even anything close. It sure looks like they mostly just goof off all day, from the pictures... nice work if you can get it, I suppose. They say they want to "develop new products" - what sort of products would those be, pray tell? Are they going to sell Memory Alpha tee-shirts? Maybe one of them will write a book on how a company can make money despite not having a viable revenue stream. They also say they're the "largest user-generated media company" - do they have any valid basis for this claim? Last but not least, this page suggests that their wikis "cover" the "world's best chocolate chip recipes," which strongly suggests they can't even proofread themselves properly. (Not that anyone here should be surprised at this.) But assuming they actually mean chocolate chip cookies, the "Recipes Wikia" has very few of these, and the link doesn't go to any of them, it goes to the "Recipes" main page. The few recipes they do have aren't properly categorized, and frankly, everyone with working taste buds will tell you that Hershey's Kiss Cookies aren't really "chocolate chip" cookies at all. The search engine is also a mess; typing in "chocolate chip cookies" takes you straight to the main chocolate chip cookie recipe which is obviously taken from the back of a chips bag. If you want an actual list, you have to type in something like "sugar chocolate chip cookies," since there's no specific recipe by that name but sugar is (presumably) common in all such recipes. Sorry to go on about that, but misleading cookie-related marketing is a huge sore-point with me... and really, if you want to make decent cookies, the absolute last place you'd want to go is Wikia.com.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 17th September 2010, 1:55am) Sorry to go on about that, but misleading cookie-related marketing is a huge sore-point with me... and really, if you want to make decent cookies, the absolute last place you'd want to go is Wikia.com. It continues to amuse me that Stephanie da Silva's recipe collection (which you used to be able to buy on CD from her, dunno if she still does this) is far far better than anything the Recipes Wikia has to offer. Hell, the Route 66 Cookbook I bought in a restaurant in Dwight is a better source of inspiration, and some of its recipes call for a can of Campbell's Tomato Soup. I routinely get recipe ideas from the Internet; I have never found anything on the Recipes Wikia worth looking at. It doesn't even rise to the level of visibility. I suspect a large part of the problem is that there is no editorial oversight and no meaningful search. Most recipe sites have editors who reject recipes that are either extremely well-known (e.g. off the back of a chip bag) or clearly bad, apply meaningful, useful categories, and offer search engines that at least can group by category and often have ingredient search.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 17th September 2010, 6:56am) I routinely get recipe ideas from the Internet; I have never found anything on the Recipes Wikia worth looking at. It doesn't even rise to the level of visibility. I suspect a large part of the problem is that there is no editorial oversight and no meaningful search. Most recipe sites have editors who reject recipes that are either extremely well-known (e.g. off the back of a chip bag) or clearly bad, apply meaningful, useful categories, and offer search engines that at least can group by category and often have ingredient search. The Wikibooks Cookbook attempts to remedy those problems.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Fri 17th September 2010, 2:55am) They also say they're the "largest user-generated media company" - do they have any valid basis for this claim?
Somey, you're always so spot-on. They have no basis for this claim, of course. They mention on that same Hiring page that they are a Quantcast Top 100 site, so let's look at that list, shall we? - #2 - Facebook, definitely user-generated, but would Wikia say "that's not 'media'"?
- #4 - YouTube, is almost exactly "user-generated media", only in (mostly) video form. Because it's owned by Google, does that disqualify it in Wikia's eyes?
- #9 - Wikipedia, run by the Wikimedia Foundation, could arguably be a "user-generated media company", it's simply non-profit.
- #12 - Blogspot and #13 - Blogger, again, are these sister domains disqualified because they're owned by Google?
- #17 - Answers.
- #18 - MySpace, disqualified because Jimbo says it "hurts my eyes".
- #19 - About, seems to be the archetypal "user-generated media company"... they just pay their contributors, that's all.
- #20 - Twitter, is it "media"? I think so.
- #22 - Wordpress.
- #37 - eHow.
- #47 - AssociatedContent, like About, it's just that they pay their contributors.
- #69 - Tumblr.
- #75 - Yelp,
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 26th August 2010, 1:26pm) And, if anyone is wondering, this silly woman met Jimbo in Montreal, at the same time that Tara Hunt (we discussed her here) was in that city. And, lo and behold, this silly Aimee Davison and Tara Hunt appear to be local karaoke pals. Back on topic, the aforesaid Tara Hunt interview is here, I think. The low resolution make Jimmy's eyes look beadier and highlight when he checks out her boobs ... its all about how Jimmy and the Wikipedia are defeating nationalism ( which is news for me, I thought they were offering a stage for it), creating world peace amongst muppet collectors and leading a fundamental shift in human consciousness. Wikipedia is an exciting lifestyle, Jimmy name drops Marc Andreesen and Wiki-mason Garret 'SarekOfVulcan' Fitzgerald must be heartbroken ... Mr Wales is only a carpenter not an architect.
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QUOTE(Cock-up-over-conspiracy @ Fri 17th September 2010, 4:39pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 26th August 2010, 1:26pm) And, if anyone is wondering, this silly woman met Jimbo in Montreal, at the same time that Tara Hunt (we discussed her here) was in that city. And, lo and behold, this silly Aimee Davison and Tara Hunt appear to be local karaoke pals. Back on topic, the aforesaid Tara Hunt interview is here, I think. The low resolution make Jimmy's eyes look beadier and highlight when he checks out her boobs ... its all about how Jimmy and the Wikipedia are defeating nationalism ( which is news for me, I thought they were offering a stage for it), creating world peace amongst muppet collectors and leading a fundamental shift in human consciousness. Wikipedia is an exciting lifestyle, Jimmy name drops Marc Andreesen and Wiki-mason Garret 'SarekOfVulcan' Fitzgerald must be heartbroken ... Mr Wales is only a carpenter not an architect. I switched off when it got to Wales' take on why Lost was supposedly so good is that it creates a platform for conversations, so it "is good for marketing". Isn't that why Web 2.0 sucks? Nothing is really being done for its own worth, everything is done to be a marketing tool. It is of course not just Teh InterWeb, but the noughties are really stuck in the "it should only be done if there is a profit in it" mentality.
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