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What's Jayjg up to?, Where is he? What name is he using? |
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Wed 5th September 2007, 1:16am) QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 4th September 2007, 5:58pm) Surely he's just editing Wikipedia under a brand new name.
I assumed hundreds of new names. He very likely is trying to get multiple accounts that have oversight and checkuser access. Why, exactly, does he need to get multiple new accounts with oversight and checkuser access? Both oversight and checkuser are "invisible" to normal users: An account could do nothing but checkuser requests and oversights and be dead to everyone not a member of those two groups.
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QUOTE(jch @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:01pm) QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Wed 5th September 2007, 1:16am) QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 4th September 2007, 5:58pm) Surely he's just editing Wikipedia under a brand new name.
I assumed hundreds of new names. He very likely is trying to get multiple accounts that have oversight and checkuser access. Why, exactly, does he need to get multiple new accounts with oversight and checkuser access? Both oversight and checkuser are "invisible" to normal users: An account could do nothing but checkuser requests and oversights and be dead to everyone not a member of those two groups. Some of the developers can see what he does and he get criticized for oversight abuse. QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:00pm) If he does get CheckUser and Oversight access, Jimbo would be in on it of course. But I would think that Jimbo would be quite happy to go along with it.
If Jayjg did and there was evidence of it, Jimbo would be like "Oh no, he'd never do that. Stop trolling."
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Wed 5th September 2007, 10:39am) QUOTE(jch @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:01pm) QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Wed 5th September 2007, 1:16am) QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 4th September 2007, 5:58pm) Surely he's just editing Wikipedia under a brand new name.
I assumed hundreds of new names. He very likely is trying to get multiple accounts that have oversight and checkuser access. Why, exactly, does he need to get multiple new accounts with oversight and checkuser access? Both oversight and checkuser are "invisible" to normal users: An account could do nothing but checkuser requests and oversights and be dead to everyone not a member of those two groups. Some of the developers can see what he does and he get criticized for oversight abuse. QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:00pm) If he does get CheckUser and Oversight access, Jimbo would be in on it of course. But I would think that Jimbo would be quite happy to go along with it.
If Jayjg did and there was evidence of it, Jimbo would be like "Oh no, he'd never do that. Stop trolling." http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=155626809Read and laugh. Or is it for real?
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Wed 5th September 2007, 11:12am) My guess is that Jayjg wants the same powers — administrator, checkuser, oversight — but under a different screen name. It would be tough to slip that one through without anyone noticing. It appears that by using this search format you get a dump right from the permissions database. Someone new with checkuser and oversight would stand out, which means that Jayjg under a new screen name would have to get root access and use the SQL commands directly. Even assuming that he's competent to do this without crashing the database, I don't think anyone apart from Jimbo would go along with this. It's one step too far in the direction of non-transparency, even for the cabal. I suspect that this is the real dilemma for the cabal: How can we let Jayjg continue his undercover work now that everyone is watching him? What? Did you forget to put on your tin thinking cap today? I don't think you comprehend how many phoney wikipupae accounts they keep in the incubators for just such occasions. Nobody will know what hit them until the heads of sockpuppets start rolling in the streets. Jonny (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/cool.gif)
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Wed 5th September 2007, 3:12pm) My guess is that Jayjg wants the same powers — administrator, checkuser, oversight — but under a different screen name. It would be tough to slip that one through without anyone noticing. It appears that by using this search format you get a dump right from the permissions database. Someone new with checkuser and oversight would stand out, which means that Jayjg under a new screen name would have to get root access and use the SQL commands directly. Even assuming that he's competent to do this without crashing the database, I don't think anyone apart from Jimbo would go along with this. It's one step too far in the direction of non-transparency, even for the cabal. I suspect that this is the real dilemma for the cabal: How can we let Jayjg continue his undercover work now that everyone is watching him? I suspect Jayjg will not use his old account much, but will continue to use his alternative accounts. He'll keey Jayjg and its permissions going forward because they are useful. Most recently, Jayjg has been passing the incriminating results of his CU queries to others to report on AN/I, and he'll continue this. Jayjg will continue as normal just under the cover of a more extensive "cloaking" method. This post has been edited by SenseMaker:
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QUOTE(jch @ Wed 5th September 2007, 2:01am) QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Wed 5th September 2007, 1:16am) QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Tue 4th September 2007, 5:58pm) Surely he's just editing Wikipedia under a brand new name.
I assumed hundreds of new names. He very likely is trying to get multiple accounts that have oversight and checkuser access. Why, exactly, does he need to get multiple new accounts with oversight and checkuser access? Both oversight and checkuser are "invisible" to normal users: An account could do nothing but checkuser requests and oversights and be dead to everyone not a member of those two groups. Plus as a checkuser he can view other checkuser requests, and be tipped off of anyone investigating his sockpuppets. The time has come to request that Jayjg's checkuser and oversight powers be removed, at least temporarily, while he's gone.
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Apparently the bucket has been kicked.QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Wed 5th September 2007, 6:51pm) Just so we're clear, this is the "official" statement: QUOTE *{{User2|Jayjg}} - An administrator, he last edited 04 August 2007. Has stated in private communications that he's preoccupied with other issues in his life. Nothing on his user page tho.
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