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The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" case is now open. Since Cirt has his own case, I predict that the star of the show will be Will Beback. The issue is described as follows:
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The purpose of this case is to examine partisan feuding/point-of-view pushing in BLPs (that is, the use of articles to enhance or diminish the reputation of individuals prominent in a particular area of conflict); to examine what practical steps can be taken to reduce polarised edit-warring and partisan feuding in BLPs; to examine the implications of search engine optimisation for Wikipedia; and to examine the relevant conduct guidelines.


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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 3rd August 2011, 2:38pm) *

The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" case is now open. Since Cirt has his own case, I predict that the star of the show will be Will Beback. The issue is described as follows:
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The purpose of this case is to examine partisan feuding/point-of-view pushing in BLPs (that is, the use of articles to enhance or diminish the reputation of individuals prominent in a particular area of conflict); to examine what practical steps can be taken to reduce polarised edit-warring and partisan feuding in BLPs; to examine the implications of search engine optimisation for Wikipedia; and to examine the relevant conduct guidelines.

What about SlimVirgin? I think she has been lying low, because she can smell the climate of outrage over the BLP abusers. If this arbcom case doesn't address her past activities, she can just start up again after the dust settles.
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The purpose of this case is to examine partisan feuding/point-of-view pushing in BLPs (that is, the use of articles to enhance or diminish the reputation of individuals prominent in a particular area of conflict); to examine what practical steps can be taken to reduce polarised edit-warring and partisan feuding in BLPs; to examine the implications of search engine optimisation for Wikipedia; and to examine the relevant conduct guidelines.


What about SlimVirgin? I think she has been lying low, because she can smell the climate of outrage over the BLP abusers. If this arbcom case doesn't address her past activities, she can just start up again after the dust settles.

It sounds like they are not looking to punish any particular person for past activities but to examine past editing practices and set new best practice guidelines for the future. If you have an account and want to participate in the case, go ahead and post some diffs against SV, or any other editor engaged in the same thing. But don't expect any sanctions to arise out of this case. Rather, expect a new set of behavioral guidelines with which to drag offenders to the bar in the future.

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QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Wed 3rd August 2011, 5:03pm) *

It sounds like they are not looking to punish any particular person for past activities but to examine past editing practices and set new best practice guidelines for the future. If you have an account and want to participate in the case, go ahead and post some diffs against SV, or any other editor engaged in the same thing. But don't expect any sanctions to arise out of this case. Rather, expect a new set of behavioral guidelines with which to drag offenders to the bar in the future.
What, the BLP policy as it stands is considered unclear?
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Wed 3rd August 2011, 6:33pm) *

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Rather, expect a new set of behavioral guidelines with which to drag offenders to the bar in the future.
What, the BLP policy as it stands is considered unclear?

ArbCom will not be modifying the BLP policy, or any other policy. It is not within their remit to do so. What they can and probably will do is make up a set of guidelines for their own benefit when considering future cases where BLP is an issue. These guidelines may or may not be consistent with the current BLP policy, or what people think that the policy is (not always the same thing). If they're inconsistent, well, that's ArbCom for you.
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QUOTE(Detective @ Wed 3rd August 2011, 6:59pm) *

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Rather, expect a new set of behavioral guidelines with which to drag offenders to the bar in the future.
What, the BLP policy as it stands is considered unclear?

ArbCom will not be modifying the BLP policy, or any other policy. It is not within their remit to do so. What they can and probably will do is make up a set of guidelines for their own benefit when considering future cases where BLP is an issue. These guidelines may or may not be consistent with the current BLP policy, or what people think that the policy is (not always the same thing). If they're inconsistent, well, that's ArbCom for you.
There is a big debate about this now on this page. Kirill says "The likelihood of sanctions is implicit, I think. If there is evidence of substantive, actionable violations of policy, then appropriate sanctions will obviously be considered." Will Beback seems very nervous and asks several times "Which BLPs do you think have these purported disputes that we're here to resolve?" But then it goes into a fog of bureaucratic proposals.
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 4th August 2011, 4:24pm) *

There is a big debate about this now on this page. Kirill says "The likelihood of sanctions is implicit, I think. If there is evidence of substantive, actionable violations of policy, then appropriate sanctions will obviously be considered." Will Beback seems very nervous and asks several times "Which BLPs do you think have these purported disputes that we're here to resolve?" But then it goes into a fog of bureaucratic proposals.

Call me foggy (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

The problem is that Arbcom does not have a meeting of the minds about what the case is for. Kiril has a different goal than JV and whoever drafted the "scope" statement. I would prefer that they march right in and bust some heads (which apparently makes Will nervous). If they want to do a fact-finding mission and bust heads later, I can live with it, as long as they actually follow through with the head-busting. The worst option would be to try and do both at the same time, with two factions of Arbitrators pushing different agendas.
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SpiderAndWeb   The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" ...  
-DS-   I wish I had started my latest "good hand...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282...  
No one of consequence   It sounds like they are not looking to punish an...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Obviously there is nothing unclear about BLP poli...  
No one of consequence   Admins represent a privileged caste. Not to me....  
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Herschelkrustofsky   A simple rule that the only RS with respect to co...  
lilburne   A simple rule that the only RS with respect to c...  
Herschelkrustofsky   If the Daily Post article of June 1 1976 is not ...  
Abd   If the Daily Post article of June 1 1976 is not a ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Abd, I think you are sort of missing the point her...  
radek   <snip> For example, opinions about living p...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Will has his undies in a bunch and is agitating fo...  
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The Adversary   Wait, who is McWhiney?Look it up on the Hive-Mind ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Wait, who is McWhiney?Look it up on the Hive-Mind...  
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Jagärdu   So here's the rub: I predict that Arbcom will...  
Vigilant   This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter wit...  
Jagärdu   Cirt has gone to ground and hasn't edited si...  
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RMHED   I don't think Will Beback is capable of pulli...  
Cla68   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not min...  
Milton Roe   Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not mi...  
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It's the blimp, Frank   Can someone tell me what is meant by "SEO-lik...  
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No one of consequence   Well? Anyone want to disagree? It doesn't ap...  
Jagärdu   Well? Anyone want to disagree? It doesn't a...  
EricBarbour   It doesn't appear to have anything to do with ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Do you think that Willie and Hochman have actual l...  
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It's the blimp, Frank   Awesome.  
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