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Seems that Rlevse has returned as PumpkinSky SPECIFICALLY to poison the well at FAC.

He caused the "sour grapes" effect at the recent RFC at WT:FAC over Raul654's "Director for Life" RFC


And Rlevse caused the nastiness and viciousness at Wt:FAC in general


But Elen of the Roads says he's not to be blocked for that or for a few copyvios here and there!

but, but! There's ax grinding against SandyGeorgia by three who are three grinding an axe: Rlevse, TCO who unvanished, and Alarbus

Wait! She forgot to mention Wehwalt. (This should distract them all from Malleus's cunt problem at the Civility Arbcom)

Where do we find the SPI? Wasn't that the one that TCO wrongly accused of being Mattisse (which was goofy as all heck), bringing Risker down on his head? In other words, I belive someone has checkuser data on BarkingMoon, and can say where he geolocates

Matisse must be climbing the walls!

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From User talk:Raul654:
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OK, now that he's been confirmed as a sockpuppet, I'll help break out the pitchforks. I've just about had it with him and the trouble he's caused. [[User:Raul654|Raul654]] ([[User talk:Raul654#top|talk]]) 20:26, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Raul loves to break out the pitchforks. Someone should stick a fork in him, he's stuck them in so many others, there are only a few Wikipedians who have done more damage than him.
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Well, he hasn't been "confirmed as a sockpuppet" as Raul654 claims.


The real problem is that PumpkinSky was one of 4 editors who dared to oppose Raul's "Director for Live" Rfc

The bloody nerve! So Raul654 and SandyGeorgia et al are going to pick them off one by one. All the other FAC slaves kowtowed.

All evidence is that PumpkinSky was extremely productive and an asset to wp.

Others found him kind, gracious and helpful


But SandyGeorgia sees it all as a plot against her and FAC

No wonder wp is dying! Drive off the productive editors!

Once again, vested Admin Moni3 uses her admin tools to block at SandyGeorgia's beckening! Blocks PumpkinSky!

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It is interesting they tagged the account http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PumpkinSky
The tag claims he's blocked, but he is not, and hopefully will not be.
After all Prioryman  (T-C-L-K-R-D) AKA Vanished user 03 AKA ChriO also came back and is allowed to stay.
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 8:23pm) *

It is interesting they tagged the account http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PumpkinSky
The tag claims he's blocked, but he is not, and hopefully will not be.
After all Prioryman  (T-C-L-K-R-D) AKA Vanished user 03 AKA ChriO also came back and is allowed to stay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...er%3APumpkinSky

PumpkinSky has been blocked since 00:00, 2 February 2012 UTC.

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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:26am) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 8:23pm) *

It is interesting they tagged the account http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PumpkinSky
The tag claims he's blocked, but he is not, and hopefully will not be.
After all Prioryman  (T-C-L-K-R-D) AKA Vanished user 03 AKA ChriO also came back and is allowed to stay.


http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...er%3APumpkinSky

PumpkinSky has been blocked since 00:00, 2 February 2012 UTC.

Oh well... But how he abuses multiple accounts? His other accounts are blocked, and he was not banned or something. Why ChriO was treated differently?
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There hasn't been a CU; it is merely vested admin's Moni3's abuse of admin tools (once again) . There's no proof that I'm aware of.
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QUOTE(chrisoff @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:36am) *

There hasn't been a CU; it is merely vested admin's Moni3's abuse of admin tools (once again) . There's no proof that I'm aware of.


Rlevse was accused of plagiarism, while ChrisO/Prioryman merely engaged in abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing. I guess there is a difference in severity.
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Accused (by SandyGeorgia) but not proved.

The vast amount of his mainspace edits were constructive, says CU Amalthea.

Where is the CU, or is this another instance of SandyGeorgia manipulating Arbcom and everyone else to block a constructive editor because of one of her peeves?

The Arbcom is being totalling undermined and has lost all credibility (if they had any.)


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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:38am) *

QUOTE(chrisoff @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:36am) *

There hasn't been a CU; it is merely vested admin's Moni3's abuse of admin tools (once again) . There's no proof that I'm aware of.


Rlevse was accused of plagiarism, while ChrisO/Prioryman merely engaged in abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing. I guess there is a difference in severity.

But what is more severe?

And what this https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w...oldid=474489625 is about? Is TungstenCarbide is also Rlevse (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif)
Ah, I see, wikipidiots believed that PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) because their user names are alike, but now they confirmed PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) , which means PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not Rlevse, but then it means that PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) whoever he is was not abusing multiple accounts, and should be unblocked.

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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 9:08pm) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:38am) *

QUOTE(chrisoff @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:36am) *

There hasn't been a CU; it is merely vested admin's Moni3's abuse of admin tools (once again) . There's no proof that I'm aware of.


Rlevse was accused of plagiarism, while ChrisO/Prioryman merely engaged in abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing. I guess there is a difference in severity.

But what is more severe?


Accused is not the same as proven. PumpkinSky was accused by SandyGeorgia. But so far the checks on his edits have not revealed massive copyvio. When SandyGeorgia blanked one of his DYKs on the main page, the evidence of copyvio was borderline - something any of us could have mistakenly done.
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 8:38pm) *

Rlevse was accused of plagiarism, while ChrisO/Prioryman merely engaged in abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing. I guess there is a difference in severity.


I can't let this slide. Everyone outside of the Wikipedia-world knows what plagiarism is. No one outside of the Wikipedia world will know what any of the these "abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing" buzzwords are supposed to mean. Couldn't you have said, "defamation, arguing, and inserting personal bias"?
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Poor guy.... goes to show you that Randy's wiki-addiction is stronger than any principles he claimed to have, as he was an arbitrator who came down particularly hard on returning "vanished" users.

Randy's problem is that he's not particularly smart (witness the whole Randy in Boise situation, and not knowing what plagiarism is). That the guy feels that he must write "Featured Articles" is a symptom of Wikipedia's perverse system of climbing the ladder.

As for Mr. Raul:

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For the record, this is absolutely not the first time Rlevse has come back after his RTV. About a week after he left, he created another account. A firestorm ensued, and he left after a day or two. I am wracking my brain but I cannot remember the name of that account. (Someone help me here) Raul654 (talk) 22:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)


Well you can't remember because this is another one of your fantasies.... (we can ask Everyking about Raul's "recollections"). To set the chain of events straight, Rlevse said he'd quit, then started editing again a few days later, then "vanished".
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QUOTE(trenton @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 2:12am) *

Poor guy.... goes to show you that Randy's wiki-addiction is stronger than any principles he claimed to have, as he was an arbitrator who came down particularly hard on returning "vanished" users.


Funny that. Wikipedia's principle that discourages "vanished" or "banned" or "blocked" from editing is so weirdly moralistic. It's not like it's some minor little corner of the internet that's easy to ignore. Especially not so if the person trying to do the ignoring has dedicated a significant amount of time in the past to learning the way editing the website works.
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QUOTE(iii @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 7:03am) *

QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 8:38pm) *

Rlevse was accused of plagiarism, while ChrisO/Prioryman merely engaged in abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing. I guess there is a difference in severity.


I can't let this slide. Everyone outside of the Wikipedia-world knows what plagiarism is. No one outside of the Wikipedia world will know what any of the these "abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing" buzzwords are supposed to mean. Couldn't you have said, "defamation, arguing, and inserting personal bias"?

Or simply 'disagreeing with Cla68'.
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 9:08pm) *

Ah, I see, wikipidiots believed that PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) because their user names are alike, but now they confirmed PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) , which means PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not Rlevse, but then it means that PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) whoever he is was not abusing multiple accounts, and should be unblocked.


It's the Great Pumpkin, Jimmy Wales! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:49pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Wed 1st February 2012, 9:08pm) *

Ah, I see, wikipidiots believed that PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) because their user names are alike, but now they confirmed PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) , which means PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not Rlevse, but then it means that PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) whoever he is was not abusing multiple accounts, and should be unblocked.


It's the Great Pumpkin, Jimmy Wales! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

It looks that rather sooner than later they will have to stop blocking socks of banned editors simply because most "new" editors will be socks of old, banned ones. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 2:08am) *

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QUOTE(chrisoff @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 1:36am) *

There hasn't been a CU; it is merely vested admin's Moni3's abuse of admin tools (once again) . There's no proof that I'm aware of.


Rlevse was accused of plagiarism, while ChrisO/Prioryman merely engaged in abusing BLPs, edit warring, and POV editing. I guess there is a difference in severity.

But what is more severe?

And what this https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w...oldid=474489625 is about? Is TungstenCarbide is also Rlevse (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif)
Ah, I see, wikipidiots believed that PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) because their user names are alike, but now they confirmed PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) , which means PumknPi (T-C-L-K-R-D) is not Rlevse, but then it means that PumpkinSky (T-C-L-K-R-D) whoever he is was not abusing multiple accounts, and should be unblocked.


just a coinkidink - although I'm tempted to have some fun with this. There are a whole bunch of variations on that account name and only one of them is me - just goes to show how gullible and idiotic some of these blocking admins are.

Oh, and by the way, Tnxman307 is a Bastard. He made me reboot my modem and get a new account - I want those 45 seconds of my life back, dammit.

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Look at the FAC crowd who blocked Rlevse without a CU

This is totally corrupt!

I wonder how many editors have been blocked/banned without any kind of due process but merely out of whim.

SandyGeorge has been warned to stop the personal attacks, calling editors socks without any attempt at proof, by Elen of the Roads
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QUOTE(chrisoff @ Thu 2nd February 2012, 5:12pm) *

Look at the FAC crowd who blocked Rlevse without a CU

This is totally corrupt!

I wonder how many editors have been blocked/banned without any kind of due process but merely out of whim.

SandyGeorge has been warned to stop the personal attacks, calling editors socks without any attempt at proof, by Elen of the Roads

Yet the same Elen supported the block
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