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Someone seems to have created a BLP of [[David Shankbone]]. User Huckandraz formerly seemed mainly interested in New York City artist [[Judy Rifka]].

No comment, just pointing it out.
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Hmmm - I strongly suspect that this discussion brewing on ANI may prove interesting. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)
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QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 10:55am) *

Hmmm - I strongly suspect that this discussion brewing on ANI may prove interesting. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

Someone needs to point out that [[John Reed (novelist)]] is the same John Reed who is on the staff of the Brooklyn Rail. It is obvious that some of those accounts are John Reed, but I'm not sure that Huckandraz is him. What do we know about his wife?
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 11:51am) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 10:55am) *

Hmmm - I strongly suspect that this discussion brewing on ANI may prove interesting. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

Someone needs to point out that [[John Reed (novelist)]] is the same John Reed who is on the staff of the Brooklyn Rail. It is obvious that some of those accounts are John Reed, but I'm not sure that Huckandraz is him. What do we know about his wife?


Also, Judy Rifka, an article that Huckandraz started, is John Reed's mother and David Reed is his father. I have little doubt that Huckandraz is John Reed, along with half a dozen other user names.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 10:55am) *

Hmmm - I strongly suspect that this discussion brewing on ANI may prove interesting. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

Someone needs to point out that [[John Reed (novelist)]] is the same John Reed who is on the staff of the Brooklyn Rail. It is obvious that some of those accounts are John Reed, but I'm not sure that Huckandraz is him. What do we know about his wife?


Also, Judy Rifka, an article that Huckandraz started, is John Reed's mother and David Reed is his father. I have little doubt that Huckandraz is John Reed, along with half a dozen other user names.


And AdjustShift gets into the fun by blocking an IP who is critical of Mr. Miller -- but the IP states that AdjustShift is a "sockpuppet administrator" -- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=321379869

Now comes the $64,000 Question: what socks are we talking about? And does Arbcom and the CU fun bunch know what is going on?

I will put the question out to our Arbcom friends and our occasional CU visitors: is the IP correct in stating AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer?

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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 7:38pm) *

I will put the question out to our Arbcom friends and our occasional CU visitors: is the IP correct in stating AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer?

I should answer this question (here, no less!!!) because ... ???
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QUOTE(Lar @ Thu 22nd October 2009, 8:00pm) *

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I will put the question out to our Arbcom friends and our occasional CU visitors: is the IP correct in stating AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer?

I should answer this question (here, no less!!!) because ... ???


Well, is the IP correct in stating that AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer or not? If it is not, then there is no harm in saying no.

But if AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer and you and the other checkusers know about it, then an explanation is in order on why AS is able to function as an admin despite this violation of policy -- which is particularly odd considering that Law/TU got banned and two well-regarded admins got desysopped for an identical situation.

It is amazing how difficult it is to get a straightforward yes or no answer from WP people.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 1:27am) *

But if AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer and you and the other checkusers know about it, then an explanation is in order on why AS is able to function as an admin despite this violation of policy -- which is particularly odd considering that Law/TU got banned and two well-regarded admins got desysopped for an identical situation.

Someone needs to put it up on Wiki (usually at WP:SPI). I would prefer to keep official business on-wiki, and I think Lar feels the same way.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 1:27am) *

But if AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer and you and the other checkusers know about it, then an explanation is in order on why AS is able to function as an admin despite this violation of policy -- which is particularly odd considering that Law/TU got banned and two well-regarded admins got desysopped for an identical situation.

Someone needs to put it up on Wiki (usually at WP:SPI). I would prefer to keep official business on-wiki, and I think Lar feels the same way.
"I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear."

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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 10:16am) *

QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 9:01am) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 1:27am) *

But if AdjustShift is a sockpuppeteer and you and the other checkusers know about it, then an explanation is in order on why AS is able to function as an admin despite this violation of policy -- which is particularly odd considering that Law/TU got banned and two well-regarded admins got desysopped for an identical situation.

Someone needs to put it up on Wiki (usually at WP:SPI). I would prefer to keep official business on-wiki, and I think Lar feels the same way.
"I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear."

Wikipedians always have an ample supply of ready excuses for not hearing inconvenient things.

This is not confined to Wikipedia, it's generally true. Try visiting DMV sometime (heck, any bureaucracy).


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Stop picking fights, it is obnoxious.

Mr. Pot... call your office. Mr. Kettle is waiting to take a meeting.
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QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 23rd October 2009, 9:46am) *
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This is not confined to Wikipedia, it's generally true. Try visiting DMV sometime (heck, any bureaucracy).
Doesn't make it right.

Besides, the reason bureaucrats do these things is mainly ass-covering: those rules are intended to contain risk and following them is simply a good way to keep one's job. Wikipedians aren't being paid, so that's not a factor. So why are y'all so concerned about ass-covering that you won't take actions that any reasonable person would see are in the best interest of the project, just because you've made some arbitrary, self-imposed rule against them?
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