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Here, Michael, I will salvage your thread by making it interesting.



How about someone ask the following question: Do you believe the Ottava Rima case was handled appropriately to begin with, after the one year mark, and currently? Do you think the approach by the ArbCom vs the approach by the Community is related to the current problems Wikipedia has in attracting high quality content editors compared to those with a history of trouble and without the same level of content that was kept because of factional reasons?
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Sun 11th November 2012, 11:30pm) *

Here, Michael, I will salvage your thread by making it interesting.



How about someone ask the following question: Do you believe the Ottava Rima case was handled appropriately to begin with, after the one year mark, and currently? Do you think the approach by the ArbCom vs the approach by the Community is related to the current problems Wikipedia has in attracting high quality content editors compared to those with a history of trouble and without the same level of content that was kept because of factional reasons?


Wikipedia's founding community created a techno-anarchist, ultra-libertarian, ultra-egalitarian, quasi-communist, and anti-intellectual society. It's a strange place for academics and writers used to a more structured academic and professional environment. The dispute resolution process (of which Arbcom is a part) is not to solve the underlying cultural, moral, and philosophical problems that plague the project. Their purpose is to stop "disorder," i.e., anyone that causes people to be upset. If you, Malleus, Giano, or anyone else cause "problems" by pointing out issues and upsetting people, the goal of the community will be to get rid of you as a troublemaker and ignore the deeper issues.

I studied a major textile labor strike while in college. It amazed me how the media, the textile owners, and the local government never thought to research or investigate the reasons for the workers striking. They just assumed they were indoctrinated by "foreign agitators," Yankees, and communists. The workers were causing "disorder" and had to be crushed. I'm not comparing all the arbitrators, administrators, and other bigwigs on Wikipedia as being "strike breakers," but they are a part of system that punishes those that do not fit in with Wikipedia's culture, even if those "troublemakers" are right.

It's a sad story that has been and continues to be told. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif)

I guess that means Ottava is like Eugene V. Debs (T-H-L-K-D)? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif)
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 14th November 2012, 9:31pm) *

Wikipedia's founding community created a techno-anarchist



I do like that term a lot. I always have. It has a really interesting image behind it, especially when you apply it to a sci-fi type atmosphere. In basics, a technocratic society should be rather like Confuscianism with those who work hard getting to the top. However, I like the idea of turning them into mindless robots (the sci-fi part) and then having them the anarchic rebels of that world - the mindless robots bent on spreading chaos, disorder, and the such.

It does fit way too well to many on Wikipedia.
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