Who is Janeyryan? Options

[Herschelkrustofsky]

User:Janeyryan first appears at Wikipedia on July 10 of this year, with the usual surprisingly complete knowledge of Wikipedia methodology. Take a look at the user contributions -- the first edits are to Wikipedia Review, followed in short order by edits to Lyndon LaRouche, Chip Berlet, Patrick Byrne, and Naked Short Selling. By the pricking of my thumbs...

[tarantino]

User:Janeyryan first appears at Wikipedia on July 10 of this year, with the usual surprisingly complete knowledge of Wikipedia methodology. Take a look at the user contributions -- the first edits are to Wikipedia Review, followed in short order by edits to Lyndon LaRouche, Chip Berlet, Patrick Byrne, and Naked Short Selling. By the pricking of my thumbs...

That would be John Nevard, who recently quit editing related articles.

There is an article probation on Patrick M. Byrne and Talk:Patrick M. Byrne that says:

Editors are directed:

(A) To edit on these from only a single user account, which shall be the user's sole or main account;
(B) To edit only through a conventional ISP and not through any form of proxy configuration;

[One]

Shit. Someone should request CU. Socks are not allowed there--NYB is right that ArbCom's remedy was not totally toothless.

I agree it's probably Nevard, but there's a nonzero chance it's Mantanmoreland. Someone should check for proxies.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

That would be John Nevard, who recently quit editing related articles.

Entirely plausible. But isn't the John Nevard account itself also a sock account? One of the so-called "legitimate" ones?

[SirFozzie]

Well, that's a completely bizarre result. Wish I knew how to interpret Alison's result post (I'm not going to ask because she won't tell me)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RfCU#Janeyryan

I have my own suspicions, but I'm going to leave it there, because all they are, are suspicions.

[Milton Roe]

Well, that's a completely bizarre result. Wish I knew how to interpret Alison's result post (I'm not going to ask because she won't tell me)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RfCU#Janeyryan

I have my own suspicions, but I'm going to leave it there, because all they are, are suspicions.

While this account doesn't appear to be blatantly similar to others and nothing stands out in particular, there are a number of technical quirks which lead me to not declare this unlikely to be related to anyone else at this time.

I really hate double negatives in a situation like this. What the devil does she mean? "Not to declare this unlikely...?"

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I don't think it's Gary Weiss, because to my knowledge he has never taken an interest in the LaRouche vs. Berlet controversy. I also don't think it's Cberlet, despite the timing (User:Janeyryan put out her/his shingle on the same day Berlet announced his retirement,) because Berlet has never taken an interest in the Byrne vs. Naked Short Selling controversy. John Nevard's editing overlaps both controversies, and I can't think of any other editor that fills the bill.

[Alison]

Well, that's a completely bizarre result. Wish I knew how to interpret Alison's result post (I'm not going to ask because she won't tell me)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RfCU#Janeyryan

I have my own suspicions, but I'm going to leave it there, because all they are, are suspicions.

While this account doesn't appear to be blatantly similar to others and nothing stands out in particular, there are a number of technical quirks which lead me to not declare this unlikely to be related to anyone else at this time.

I really hate double negatives in a situation like this. What the devil does she mean? "Not to declare this unlikely...?"

I won't go into details here, lest I be hanged for my crimes.

Basically, I'd like to call it {{unlikely}} but feel I cannot due to some technical quirks. There's some stuff I just cannot rule out. And I think I'll leave it at that. I'd said, "lead[s] me to not declare this unlikely" - which is not quite what you said!

Yeah, convoluted

This post has been edited by Alison: Tue 29th July 2008, 6:12am

[Random832]

So basically all that this is accomplished is that whoever it is is now on notice, and therefore knows to be more careful.

Remember, Mantanmoreland only screwed up once with Bassettcat - he'd never have been caught if the matter of whether or not he was a sockpuppet had been considered settled after the first check.

[Alison]

So basically all that this is accomplished is that whoever it is is now on notice, and therefore knows to be more careful.

Remember, Mantanmoreland only screwed up once with Bassettcat - he'd never have been caught if the matter of whether or not he was a sockpuppet had been considered settled after the first check.

To be honest, they're already on maximum alert. Bringing an early checkuser request pretty-much ensured that and they're already working in a maximum-scrutiny area, under the auspices of dozens of ArbCom cases. It doesn't get much better

[Piperdown]

"new" User:Janeyryan.

Interests?

Chip Berlet
Patrick Byrne bashing on Naked Shorting talk page
Lyndon LaRouche
OhMyNews (did story on linda)
Wikipedia Review (LM's 2nd favourite website)

Gary Weiss or Linda Mack?

I believe it to be Linda after further Wikireview.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Janeyryan

Disgust amongst your detective selves...

note: if it's gary, it wouldn't be his first dance in wikidrag. See User:EmilyWelles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ons/Emilywelles

one wikisleuth believes janey to be one john nevard. Could be.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=228387111

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Sat 2nd August 2008, 4:54pm

[tarantino]

"new" User:Janeyryan.

Interests?

Chip Berlet
Patrick Byrne bashing on Naked Shorting talk page
Lyndon LaRouche
OhMyNews (did story on linda)
Wikipedia Review (LM's 2nd favourite website)

Gary Weiss or Linda Mack?

This has been discussed in this thread. Checkuser result is a US dial-up ISP.

[Milton Roe]

"new" User:Janeyryan.

Interests?

Chip Berlet
Patrick Byrne bashing on Naked Shorting talk page
Lyndon LaRouche
OhMyNews (did story on linda)
Wikipedia Review (LM's 2nd favourite website)

Gary Weiss or Linda Mack?

This has been discussed in this thread. Checkuser result is a US dial-up ISP.

Well, that probably eliminates SV. Some dialup ISPs are national (AOL, Earthlink) where others have more limited coverage. Is this one of the the ones that can be semilocalized?

I'm guessing it's neither SV NOR Weiss. Possibly CBerlet tidying up after flouncing out. Weiss doesn't really care about Berlet or LaRouch that much.

Other possibility is it's a sock of somebody on WR who was involved in the LaRouche wars, and is long banned.

This post has been edited by Milton Roe: Sat 2nd August 2008, 8:38pm

[Herschelkrustofsky]

For such a fresh, new editor, Janey has become very tendentious very fast. She is focussing her firepower on removing the OhMyNews citation from [[Wikipedia Review]], which brings to mind another ostensibly female editor who has a history of sockpuppetry. And then again, she likes to post whole essays in the edit summary box, a trademark approach of Cberlet (so that other editors must read his opinions on their watchlists without even clicking on the talk pages.)

[maggot3]

Posting the first few sentences of whatever he's saying is something Tony Sidaway was doing, with his last account at least.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

User:Risker is now doing a bit of probing on JR's talk page, in light of the ArbCom ruling.

[Proabivouac]

Posting the first few sentences of whatever he's saying is something Tony Sidaway was doing, with his last account at least.

Yes, Janeyryan appears to be Tony sidaway.

[Milton Roe]

I don't think it's Gary Weiss, because to my knowledge he has never taken an interest in the LaRouche vs. Berlet controversy. I also don't think it's Cberlet, despite the timing (User:Janeyryan put out her/his shingle on the same day Berlet announced his retirement,) because Berlet has never taken an interest in the Byrne vs. Naked Short Selling controversy. John Nevard's editing overlaps both controversies, and I can't think of any other editor that fills the bill.

Could be, but CBerlet, as troll extraordinary, certainly had his opinions on Weiss. Some of them quite funny in light of later history, as Mantanmoreland/Weiss was indeed finally caught socking redhanded. But BEFORE that, here is a prime Berlet quote from none other than the Weiss TALK page:

I think Guy said it best: "What is not acceptable is for people who have been banned from Wikipedia due to abuse and harassment, to be allowed to dictate who may and may not engage in" [discussions with respect to enry content. Why does a democratic community allow thugs and misfits to intrude? I think this is the basic issue here. Wikipedia needs some better community standards against the trolls, stalkers, and whiners. --Cberlet (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, those trolls, stalkers, and whiners. And what's Berlet doing on Weiss' TALK page? Trolling, stalking and whining. The rest of the page is funny also, with Tony S, Crum, Jayjg and all our old friends weighing in against the POV pushers and sockers who've supposedly infested the nice neutral Naked Short Sale article and ruined a classy place. Ah, god.

It is true that sometimes you cannot possibly fathom what is going on at WP without reading WR. The gamers have truly gamed the system so well that somebody from the inside never would figure it out.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Posting the first few sentences of whatever he's saying is something Tony Sidaway was doing, with his last account at least.

Yes, Janeyryan appears to be Tony sidaway.

Does Sidaway fit the interest profile? Janey's interests are few: LaRouche, Berlet, Naked Short Selling, Wikipedia Review. An actual new editor, or a seasoned sockmeister, would try to diversify a bit for experimentation or keeping up appearances. But not our Janey.

[Alex]

Posting the first few sentences of whatever he's saying is something Tony Sidaway was doing, with his last account at least.

Yes, Janeyryan appears to be Tony sidaway.

Does Sidaway fit the interest profile? Janey's interests are few: LaRouche, Berlet, Naked Short Selling, Wikipedia Review. An actual new editor, or a seasoned sockmeister, would try to diversify a bit for experimentation or keeping up appearances. But not our Janey.

Those edit summaries scream out Tony Sidaway.