Timeline -- Durova's Lies (for the record), One week, from "Sympathetic" to "Stalked Options

For the RECORD

1. Durova muses on David Shankbone's Brookline Rail Article on her BLOG - DUROVABLOG (Sat, June 07)
2. Durova (same day as no. 1) writes the article "What if the Target Were You" speaking of how she found a violent threat on a Wikimedia site, to Shankbone. BLOG - DUROVABLOG (Sat, June 07)
3. Durova complains about Brandt publishing her publicly published Facebook Friends. She suddenly alleges that someone has been threatening to throw acid in her face. She republishes Brandt's his defamatory Wikipedia Biography on her BLOG - DUROVABLOG (Wed, June 11)
4. [url=http://www.webmasterradio.fm/Search-Engine-Optimization/Webcology/Internet-Bullying.htm]Durova goes on a radio podcast show with Shankbone and again claims she's the victim of a violence-threatening stalker. On the podcast, he tells the outrageous lie that harassment was why she quit as Wikipedia administrator (not because she was forced to during an Arbcom "Trial" for abusive false accusations. BLOG - DUROVABLOG (Friday, June 13)

Anyone else smell bullshit a rat? Within one week, she goes from finding Shankbone threats online.......... to acid throwing rapist stalking victim? Humroo?

Normally, I wouldn't question a victim's words, but this is Durova. I know her personally to have made up outrageous lies (two, at least) to cause me trouble via a great libel-establishing situation on Wikipedia. One of those baldfaced lies was that I "harassed" her. I I know the woman to lie like it's to save her life. And over the past year, I've seen her to it to others: Again, and again, and again.

Her story of acid throwing rapist threats doesn't ring true. But then, not much of what she does, or says, or alleges seems to.

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On the podcast, he tells the outrageous lie that harassment was why she quit as Wikipedia administrator (not because she was forced to during an Arbcom "Trial" for abusive false accusations.

Really? I might have to try to listen to that thing one of these days... I wonder if there's some sort of technical means of filtering out Shankers' voice completely, though? I'm worried that I won't be able to get the puke stains off the carpet.

Still, she actually said that?

Really? I might have to try to listen to that thing one of these days... I wonder if there's some sort of technical means of filtering out Shankers' voice completely, though? I'm worried that I won't be able to get the puke stains off the carpet.

OK, what exactly did Shankbone do that pissed you off so much? With all the swirling drama that continually surrounds WP and WR and related things, I've managed to forget any specifics about that guy other than that he did lots of interviews and photos until he quit due to being (allegedly) harassed, but from your comments on many threads you seem to have developed quite the revulsion for him. What was his big crime?

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OK, what exactly did Shankbone do that pissed you off so much?

Shankbone posted "spy screenshots" of a private chatboard on ED. With conversations discussing various WR users, Somey was concerned were moles from WP. Which some apparently were.

(or alternatively, Im correct in stating that all computers are accessible using special tools - probably "Infragard tools" that Wikipedia staffers probably have access to, being probably deputized as FBI infragard "insiders". See - my "attempted covert" FBI guy is head of the Infragard program, and he knew Durova, and Jimbo. So that's my perfectly reasonable far-out theory. Otherwise, there is a real mole, which I rather doubt.

Using Infragard surveillance tools, they could spy on Somey's computer.

They've erased the full bio of my FBI SSA, who is a former US Marine, trained in information warfare (which is why Ive been ranting about it, and why Im picking on Durova for her obvious continuance of it). Per the missing bio - Hey guys, I know how you operate. ONE WORD: Screenshot. ( because Shankbone didn't invent them boys.

Still, she actually said that?

I didn't remember her saying such a howler, and I just (cringe) listened again to her sections of the interview, and I did not hear that.
Greg

Yeah, she did. She also claims on her blog that Greg is hanging on to old grudges about "something she said on a noticeboard which is now archived" hence presumably irrelevant. Which is bullshit. What she said firstly was that Greg lied to a journalist. When he asked her to retract that, she had him banned. Thats not irrelevant, and given his business is related to Wikis, he's hardly to be blamed for continuing to be pissed off at her.

She makes him out to be a stalker, whining that Greg should pay more mind to her family, wistfully noting that her father has now passed, and she wishes she had more time with him. I wonder if her father would be proud of her libelling people online, lying her butt off about it, and lying again, and then implying that the people are ill for being angry at her. She sucks.

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Here is Durova, in all her full-of-crap (re)-libeling lying-her-ass-off glory

I didn't ban Greg Kohs from Wikipedia. Jimbo Wales had banned Greg already months before I ever encountered the guy. It's a subject I usually don't discuss very much, because for the last 16 months I've been waiting for Greg to rethink his priorities.

How many times did Greg's kid leave a tooth underneath their pillows for the tooth fairy? How many PTA meetings did Greg miss?

Greg Kohs thinks I defamed him once on a noticeboard over a year ago on a discussion that's long since been archived. Nobody would care about if Greg didn't keep bringing it up. I didn't think I defamed him, and to be certain I contacted the Wikimedia Foundation's counsel, who was Brad Patrick then. I showed him my post and offered to retract. Brad Patrick didn't see any problem with what I had written.

What doesn't add up is why a fellow like Greg who's so sensitive about his own reputation would go around afterward in the way he does. Admitting to the Brooklyn Rail that he's put thong bikinis and coffee mugs and t-shirts on a website in order to mock me isn't the kind of thing that impresses people. I see stunts like that and wonder, if I were in a position to do business with the guy, would I really want to sign onto a deal with someone like that? How would he be spending the time that he ought to devote to the project? Would he hold a grudge if the deal didn't work out?

So where David went wrong is the sentence where he writes about my reaction ...feels it is serial harassment. Nope. I'm the expert on my feelings and I do not call Greg's behavior that word. Self-defeating, maybe. Greg's running for the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees right now and it isn't too hard to guess what impression his siteban and his vendetta have on most voters. I don't hold a particular grudge. If Greg would spend six months respecting his siteban by not evading it, and if he'd stop bashing Wikipedia around the Internet for half a year I'd welcome him back. It'd be a good idea if he'd take down those thong bikinis and the other silliness. He could have been unbanned long ago. Instead--well--for a fellow who's stated purpose is to run a business editing Wikipedia articles, Greg has been notably unsuccessful at it.

Clearly Durova went to the DOJ Wainstein school of semantic parsing™. No, she didn't ban Greg. She accused him of lying to AP reporter Brian Bergstein, while Jimbo had banned him (for the lame reason of wanting to start a business related to Wikipedia editing). Which (shades of Essjay) is goddamned serious stuff. Jimbo unbanned Greg, and Greg asked her to retract that statement. WHAT a mistake. Durova is simply NOT wrong. So JzG banned Greg, when Durova claimed that Greg's normal request for a retraction was "Harassment" or whatever contentious word she used to describe his request to have his name cleared.

As for her being stalked, Durova, without the fame of being, well, a defamer (and hystrionically abusive to boot), simply is not.that.interesting.of.a.person to attract such attention. True, stalkers can choose anyone at will. But she's lying folks. She usually is. I hope for her sake she never is stalked, because she cries wolf so often that no one will take her seriously if that day ever comes.

** Why diss Kenneth Wainstein? He testified before the US Congress on September 20, 2007, that the original intent of the FISA was not to protect US Citizens abroad (paraphrased - I believe his actual words were related to the applications not being outside the domestic United States - but same difference).

Well, Mr. Wainstein, I downloaded all the pre-and-immediately-post FISA House and Senate testimony from the Rutgers website, and yes, you are right, that was the application of the original FISA legislation. What you failed to mention in that testimony was that AG Bell and CIA Director Colby promised that follow-on legislation would indeed apply outside the United States, i.e. protecting US Citizens abroad. Colby noted that he was fine with that a judicial order would be required for surveillance projects, of what he then-called "positive intelligence gathering" using US Citizens Abroad for "targets" (hey, Durova - "What if you were the target?", ahem - think I found that funny?

Well I didn't, and scratch a sleeping Dragon (or Dragon 695, aka Prospero - just like me! Gads, WHAT a koinkidink! Dont you losers at the DOJ and FBI have better things to do that play such bullshit games? Like crying to a shrink or a priest about what you've done that you might have to answer to Congress for? WELL? I'm talking to YOU, boys!!! Why not just give up the crazy lady - no, not me, her, or both of them - and admit fault, just ONCE, hm?) - back to Kenneth Wainstein Assistant Attorney General, for National Security - he used what I will call "Durova parsing" to justify passing a law that stripped me of my Constitutional rights for one year - in fact ALL AMERICANS ABROAD, ALL 3.2 million plus of us - all VOTING PERSONS, Mr. Wainstein, and I know the ACA team (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) So "that" is why I diss Ken Wainstein. Durova works in his organization, I strongly suspect - and her "Logic or lack thereof" is perfectly normal SOP. No, not SOB, SOP. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

For all of you "out of the loop", Ive had my phone surveilled and my apartment entered, and this is reported to the local police, so this is serious stuff, and it apparently started on Wikipedia. Thats why Ive been making such outrageous claims. Its not a freakin hobby. Its my scary daily experience. And Durova knows damned well she and Slim are having their lameass spook asses held to the burner soon. And that is why all the hubub. They are trying (lamely) to create a reason for that they behave like lunatics online (and off, as it would appear). Claiming that they are harassed.... by (drumroll) "cyberterrorists!!!" COWABUNGA!!

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Thus, in this strange and sad habiliment,
I will encounter with Andronicus,
And say I am Revenge, sent from below
To join with him and right his heinous wrongs.
Knock at his study, where, they say, he keeps,
To ruminate strange plots of dire revenge;
Tell him Revenge is come to join with him,
And work confusion on his enemies.

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