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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 4:34pm) *

As a professional image restorer I can attest that she's bobbins at it.

As a professional BDSM hamster, I can verify your cromulent boasts.
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post Sat 13th March 2010, 12:28am
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 11:52am) *

To paraphrase the well-known phrase or saying "don't put down to deviousness that which is actually stupidity", Durova isn't deliberately altering history, she's just fucking lousy at doing what she does.

She's got one talent: getting admin powers for really dodgy people. hrmph.gif

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"Bobbins" as in, scrofulent? biggrin.gif
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post Sat 13th March 2010, 1:58pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 11:34am) *

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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 11:52am) *

To paraphrase the well-known phrase or saying "don't put down to deviousness that which is actually stupidity", Durova isn't deliberately altering history, she's just fucking lousy at doing what she does.

In fairness, I have to say that, although I find Durova's "without me you're nothing" posturing intensely irritating, when I was active on WP on the occasions I had any dealings with her in the image-retouching context I always found her perfectly helpful, willing to listen to criticism and suggestions, and pretty good at what she did.

As a professional image restorer I can attest that she's bobbins at it.

Is bobbins a good thing, or a bad thing?
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post Sat 13th March 2010, 3:39pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 11:52am) *

To paraphrase the well-known phrase or saying "don't put down to deviousness that which is actually stupidity", Durova isn't deliberately altering history, she's just fucking lousy at doing what she does.

In fairness, I have to say that, although I find Durova's "without me you're nothing" posturing intensely irritating, when I was active on WP on the occasions I had any dealings with her in the image-retouching context I always found her perfectly helpful, willing to listen to criticism and suggestions, and pretty good at what she did.

As a professional image restorer I can attest that she's bobbins at it.

Is bobbins a good thing, or a bad thing?


A bad thing. In her case, a very bad thing.
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post Sat 13th March 2010, 3:59pm
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Sat 13th March 2010, 9:39am) *

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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 11:34am) *

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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Fri 12th March 2010, 11:52am) *

To paraphrase the well-known phrase or saying "don't put down to deviousness that which is actually stupidity", Durova isn't deliberately altering history, she's just fucking lousy at doing what she does.

In fairness, I have to say that, although I find Durova's "without me you're nothing" posturing intensely irritating, when I was active on WP on the occasions I had any dealings with her in the image-retouching context I always found her perfectly helpful, willing to listen to criticism and suggestions, and pretty good at what she did.

As a professional image restorer I can attest that she's bobbins at it.

Is bobbins a good thing, or a bad thing?


A bad thing. In her case, a very bad thing.

Now I did say that. Or at least, I think I did. unsure.gif
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post Sat 20th March 2010, 6:27pm
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So now I finally know what this was about:
Image Durova's upside-down version
Image Cuerden et al

Something Durova does not want on the talk page. "Archiving" without a link to the archive. She needs to ask an art professor to know which way is up...

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QUOTE(pietkuip @ Sat 20th March 2010, 6:27pm) *

So now I finally know what this was about:
Image Durova's upside-down version
Image Cuerden et al

Something Durova does not want on the talk page. "Archiving" without a link to the archive. She needs to ask an art professor to know which way is up...

That has got to be the lamest thing to have a flamewar about since Raul vs Undertow arguing about "Arse" over "Ass".
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post Sat 20th March 2010, 8:56pm
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Sat 20th March 2010, 6:52pm) *

That has got to be the lamest thing to have a flamewar about since Raul vs Undertow arguing about "Arse" over "Ass".

Featuring also a cameo appearance by Melsaran who (beknownst to none save Raul) would undergo forced disappearance 9 days thereafter. fear.gif

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QUOTE(pietkuip @ Sat 20th March 2010, 6:27pm) *

Image Durova's upside-down version
Image Cuerden et al

Something Durova does not want on the talk page. "Archiving" without a link to the archive. She needs to ask an art professor to know which way is up...

Stupid question, but is Durova's version actually upside down? Given that it's an illustration to The Raven ("The raven still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas"), Durova's version clearly isn't upside down, as Cuerden's version has an upside-down bust on top of an upside-down raven. Or am I missing something?
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post Sat 20th March 2010, 9:17pm
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Sat 20th March 2010, 5:09pm) *

QUOTE(pietkuip @ Sat 20th March 2010, 6:27pm) *

Image Durova's upside-down version
Image Cuerden et al

Something Durova does not want on the talk page. "Archiving" without a link to the archive. She needs to ask an art professor to know which way is up...

Stupid question, but is Durova's version actually upside down? Given that it's an illustration to The Raven ("The raven still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas"), Durova's version clearly isn't upside down, as Cuerden's version has an upside-down bust on top of an upside-down raven. Or am I missing something?


My interpretation, fwiw: The raven on the bust is upside-down because it's a shadow. If that's a wooden chair (at right, on the Cuerden et al. version) it belongs on the floor, not the ceiling.
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QUOTE(IN278S @ Sat 20th March 2010, 9:17pm) *

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Stupid question, but is Durova's version actually upside down? Given that it's an illustration to The Raven ("The raven still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas"), Durova's version clearly isn't upside down, as Cuerden's version has an upside-down bust on top of an upside-down raven. Or am I missing something?


My interpretation, fwiw: The raven on the bust is upside-down because it's a shadow. If that's a wooden chair (at right, on the Cuerden et al. version) it belongs on the floor, not the ceiling.

Absent the above context the chair is the only recognizable object. However, … bawk, bawk, nevermore…
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post Sun 21st March 2010, 12:46am
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Sat 20th March 2010, 10:09pm) *

Stupid question, but is Durova's version actually upside down? Given that it's an illustration to The Raven ("The raven still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas"), Durova's version clearly isn't upside down, as Cuerden's version has an upside-down bust on top of an upside-down raven. Or am I missing something?


The signature also shows that it is upside down, but it was printed the wrong way around in the first edition. Although Durova was aware of this, she did not want to turn it around. But what is the point of "restoring" if one does not want to fix a simple printing error?

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Self-destructed on Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:...Cuerden_desysop
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He's ragequit several times. This thread alleges that you're a tad involved in this flameout.
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What?? confused.gif
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So, the nut-case who was responsible for Anne "Risker" Clin formally banning me from Wikipedia has quit another Wikimedia project.

Eh, it's all right... I keep getting one paid editing job after another, and the ban rather controls my interest in participating in the WP drama -- helps me stay focused on the cash. My last project paid for a lovely dinner out with my family and in-laws at this hole-in-the-wall joint that has a "soup Nazi" style owner named Roberto, but food that is without question prepared by angels (or maybe Ol' Scratch himself).
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QUOTE(IN278S @ Sat 20th March 2010, 2:17pm) *

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Image Durova's upside-down version
Image Cuerden et al

Something Durova does not want on the talk page. "Archiving" without a link to the archive. She needs to ask an art professor to know which way is up...

Stupid question, but is Durova's version actually upside down? Given that it's an illustration to The Raven ("The raven still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas"), Durova's version clearly isn't upside down, as Cuerden's version has an upside-down bust on top of an upside-down raven. Or am I missing something?


My interpretation, fwiw: The raven on the bust is upside-down because it's a shadow. If that's a wooden chair (at right, on the Cuerden et al. version) it belongs on the floor, not the ceiling.



Someone on EBay is now selling http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A4-glossy-poster...#ht_2893wt_1082 framed copies of the Cuerden et al version on the raven drawing.


You can buy the Durova "Restoration: Lise Broer" versions of the other Poe drawings:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A4-satin-poster-...#ht_2909wt_1082

"An illustration by �douard Manet for a French publication of Edgar Allan Poe's narrative poem "The Raven". In the poem, the raven flies into the narrator's home and perches on a bust of Pallas Athena (seen here). The narrator then asks the bird a series of questions, to which the bird only replies, "Nevermore". Eventually, the narrator falls into despair and ends with his final admission that his soul is trapped beneath the raven's shadow and shall be lifted "Nevermore". Originally published in 1845, the poem was widely popular and made Poe famous, though it did not bring him much financial success. "The Raven" has influenced many modern works and is referenced throughout popular culture in films, television, music and more. Restoration: Lise Broer "


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QUOTE(Versa @ Fri 23rd September 2011, 6:02pm) *

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Image Durova's upside-down version
Image Cuerden et al

Something Durova does not want on the talk page. "Archiving" without a link to the archive. She needs to ask an art professor to know which way is up...

Stupid question, but is Durova's version actually upside down? Given that it's an illustration to The Raven ("The raven still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas"), Durova's version clearly isn't upside down, as Cuerden's version has an upside-down bust on top of an upside-down raven. Or am I missing something?


My interpretation, fwiw: The raven on the bust is upside-down because it's a shadow. If that's a wooden chair (at right, on the Cuerden et al. version) it belongs on the floor, not the ceiling.



Someone on EBay is now selling http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A4-glossy-poster...#ht_2893wt_1082 framed copies of the Cuerden et al version on the raven drawing.


You can buy the Durova "Restoration: Lise Broer" versions of the other Poe drawings:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/A4-satin-poster-...#ht_2909wt_1082

"An illustration by �douard Manet for a French publication of Edgar Allan Poe's narrative poem "The Raven". In the poem, the raven flies into the narrator's home and perches on a bust of Pallas Athena (seen here). The narrator then asks the bird a series of questions, to which the bird only replies, "Nevermore". Eventually, the narrator falls into despair and ends with his final admission that his soul is trapped beneath the raven's shadow and shall be lifted "Nevermore". Originally published in 1845, the poem was widely popular and made Poe famous, though it did not bring him much financial success. "The Raven" has influenced many modern works and is referenced throughout popular culture in films, television, music and more. Restoration: Lise Broer "

Apparently Openprint Ltd thinks that selling featured images from Wikipedia will be profitable. But anyone can go to Kinkos (or whatever equivalent in the UK) and print off a bunch of photo posters there.
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Apparently Openprint Ltd thinks that selling featured images from Wikipedia will be profitable. But anyone can go to Kinkos (or whatever equivalent in the UK) and print off a bunch of photo posters there.

It's not couch shopping if you have to put clothes and shoes on and drive your fat ass down to Kinko's (or the UK equivalent, as you say).

And Versa: way to go with the necromancy!
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He returned: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:...ns/Adam_Cuerden

Someone had a good response: http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=73305849 (no, that was not me, I did not even remember "Russkie").
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