Two major threads here. tl;dr summary: This wanker was creepy.
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Subject: [arbcom-l] Why have I been blocked?
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From: Thesevenseas <thesevenoceans@googlemail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 18:20
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What have I done wrong do deserve such a punishment? I've always been a good editor. Every block must have a block rationale to go with it. I have done nothing wrong. This block is unjustified. It's not fair that a good editor be treated worse than a vandal or sockpuppeteer. Please reverse this.
Thanks,
Thesevenseas.
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From: Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org>
Date: Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 09:05
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<list only> Do we even /have/ a canned responses for blocks of this nature? It'd hardly do to write back telling him that we've blocked him because he's an obvious sexual predator. Even a simple statement of fact a la "harassment of young female editors" is problematic.
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From: Carcharoth <carcharothwp@googlemail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 10:52
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You could say something like "transcripts of chat logs were passed to
us that contained conduct that was of immediate concern, so we blocked
until such a time as you were able to explain this conduct". You might
also ask on functionaries if there was a police report, and if so to
follow up on that. It depends whether you want to end up writing back
to him saying "this matter is the subject of a police investigation,
so I can't say more on the matter" (or whether it is even our place to
say this).
Difficult, I agree.
Carcharoth
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From: Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org>
Date: Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 17:32
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Cc: Thesevenseas <thesevenoceans@googlemail.com>
You have been blocked because we have received credible allegations that you have been harassing some editors on- and off-wiki. In particular, we have been sent copies of email and chat logs which display conduct which is entirely unacceptable from any person. In addition, your Wikipedia edits show repeated advances towards underage female editors, despite repeated requests to desist, and logs show that you have been misusing the "email this user" feature in order to communicate with such editors despite having been requested not to do so.
This kind of behavior is absolutely not tolerated on Wikipedia, and your editing privileges have been suspended accordingly. Nevertheless, this response will be circulated to all members of the Arbitration Committee and if, after discussion, we conclude that your appeal has any merit we will contact you again.
-- Coren
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From: Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org>
Date: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:20
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<list only>
Forwarded verbatim.
I note the simple blanket denial, which would then be simple "he said she said"; were it not for the fact that his assertions about on-wiki behavior are demonstrably false, which throws a pall over his other claims.
At this point, I'm considering responding along the lines of "Your responses do not match observable reality." and end the matter there. Opinions?
-- Coren / Marc
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Subject: Re: [arbcom-l] Why have I been blocked?
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 00:45:32 +0000
From: Thesevenseas <thesevenoceans@googlemail.com>
To: Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org>
Hi,
I've never harassed any editors both on and off wiki.
I've only ever used the email this user button once and that was for an oversight request, which was badly worded.
I've checked my records and I see nothing of that sort.
All my edits on wikipedia have been solely to do with improving the encyclopedia, mainly about templates. I don't believe that I've shown any sort of advances to anyone. All those I communicate with onwiki have an interest with templates. I don't see where the repeated requests to desist comes in. If I'm asked to stop doing something, I stop first time.
I agree completely with this, but I do not believe that I have carried out such behaviour.
This has come as a shock to me, mainly because I have never intended to do such things. It is completely against my personal beliefs. I admit that due to personal disabilities that I may misword emails, but I swear I have had no intention of harassing editors. If I did so by accident, then I apologise for that.
All I want to do here is help improve the encyclopedia and in some cases it means teaching other editors certain skills. There must be a mistake because my wikipedia talk page edits are definitely not advancing in any way, usually only replying to to a previous comment. Also, you imply that I've used the "email this user" button more than once. I've only used it once as stated earlier. If anything, I'm a socially awkward person trying to say one thing but ending up saying something else.
That said, I am really sorry for any wrongdoing on my part. I promise I didn't mean any harm or harassment, but I will still apologise.
Thank you for you time,
Thesevenseas.
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From: Roger Davies <roger.davies.wiki@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:56
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Thanks, Marc,
I'd like to know a bit more about the emails he is said to have sent. What do we know?
Roger
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From: Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org>
Date: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:47
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It's all second hand, on the fun-l thread. I'm at work, so I can't
look it up easily, but you should have no trouble finding them. If you
haven't by the time I get back home I'll dig it up for you.
The executive summary: "You're special, I really want to meet you,
where do you live" standard creepy stuff.
-- Coren / Marc
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Subject: [Functionaries-en] Off-wiki stalking involving a potential child predator
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From: Tiptoety <tiptoety@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 23:29
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I was recently contacted by User:Sonia regarding an older adult male (User:Thesevenseas) that has been making various contacts with her via Wikipedia email, google chat, and other like venues. She stated she was concerned for her safety (given her age, which is under 18). In speaking with her, she stated that he has sent long worded emails with phrases like "I check my email on a daily basis looking for an email from you[...]" and "Our friendship is really important to me. I've never had a friend like you. I've lived a lonely life. I never got that friend I desperately needed. When I got to know you, I felt something a sense of happiness I'd never felt before." (Note that he is well aware she is young). He also made a statement in an email that said: " I got scared that something might happen to you at such a young and vulnerable age or that you'd disappear and we'd never hear from you again [...]".
Sonia also provided me with some logs from recent google chat conversations (which she has now blocked him from):
1:38 PM Melvin: Either way, our friendship is strong.
1:41 PM and I'll always be watching over you.
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Melvin: I guess we'd justhave to meetup some time.
just have
12:21 PM I've made it one of my life ambitions to meet you someday.
me (Sonia): ...really?
Melvin: Indeed!
12:23 PM We have so much in common.
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Melvin: or are you nearer rosebank?
12:10 PM me (Sonia): uh...
stop stalking me
Melvin: I'm not
Upon looking over his contributions, he appears to have contacted quite a few "female" (at least by the sound of their username) editors. <http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/topedits/index.php?name=Thesevenseas&namespace=3>, and likes to edit articles about female names.
Sonia provided me with his name, which is <REDACTED>, doing a google search did not turn up anything of interest. His email is <REDACTED>
Thoughts on this would be appreciated. Also, I have the full logs and email available for anyone who wants them.
Cheers,
~Tiptoety
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From: Fred Bauder <fredbaud@fairpoint.net>
Date: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 23:54
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I think it is enough to go to the police. There may be an issue there as
you don't seem to know his address. And doing a checkuser might be a
privacy problem. You might ask Sonia before you do though, or her
parents, as their cooperation would be required.
Maybe what needs to happen is to communicate all this to the FBI and let
professionals answer the questions that we all might have. They can get a
court order for a checkuser which we can then comply with.
The pattern seems classic predator. People who like children, or even
young women, don't act like he's doing.
Fred
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From: Tiptoety <tiptoety@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 00:04
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I agree that contacting the Police is a must in this situation and recommend as much to Sonia.
Additionally, I agree with your assessment that this type of behavior is not "regular" of an older man conversing with a young girl.
My question for this list is, what action, if any should we be taking on-wiki to ensure the safety of Sonia and all users? Blocking him from contacting young editors via talk pages and disabling his email is probably about as far as we can go, but does anyone feel we have enough to justify doing so?
~Tiptoety
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From: Hersfold <hersfoldwiki@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 00:45
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Given the top three pages listed on that toolserver link you gave, and that some of the posts made to those users are a little concerning, a block may be in order. I'm also wondering when those Google Chats you mentioned took place - Sonia left this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The...nseas#a_request. note on Melvin's talk page two days ago, and if he's still contacting her, I don't believe we want him on Wikipedia.
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From: Marc A. Pelletier <marc@uberbox.org>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 01:28
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That... was an understatement. I've blocked, removed email, and deleted the talk page history which contains plenty of creepy stalkerish interaction. Everything tagged {{arbcomblock}}. That's about as far as we can go to protect editors on our side.
The remaining interaction with the victim about contacting the police probably remains a good idea.
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From: Keegan Peterzell <keegan.wiki@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 02:22
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Thanks Marc, I was going to do all that when I read this at work.
Tip will agree that 99.99% of the time I say "it's the internet," but this is serious. So if I say its serious, we need to take care of business in assisting Sonia.
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From: FT2 <ft2.wiki@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 06:42
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Was looking to see if someone had done this when I found Marc and Keegan had. Agree too.
Keep CU data on this one and watch for a return.
Paul.
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From: FT2 <ft2.wiki@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 07:11
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Appears this user has recently had other accounts (Faust/Arjenvanslingerlandt and a doppleganger at least). His deleted User talk history from late September shows a usurp request where he claims "harassment", as well as considerable concerns by others about his editing (link to his rename request). There's no explanation of the "harassment" which is implied to be real-world, but around the same time he was the subject of complaints about his own edit warring on his deleted talk page and AN3, and that might be what it's about.
Before that he was [[User:Arjenvanslingerlandt]], renamed to Faust at CUU two months earlier in July 2010.
Paul.
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From: Sydney Poore <sydney.poore@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 08:54
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His first edit to Cymru.lass was a wikilove post.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cymru.lass#Smile.21to LoveActresses
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=389192910to Melba1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Melba1#Smile.21I stopped looking here.
There are more to other people but a disproportionate number of these
are to female editors considering the number of females on wiki. And
it looks as most of these females would be youngish from there names
and contributions.
So, I agree with blocking and cutting off his on site access to female users.
This may raise questions on site, so we need to be ready for it.
If Set Sail For The Seven Seas is in contact with people off site (IRC
and chat), he may give his side of the story to users.
Still probably will be best to say that Set Sail For The Seven Seas is
to contact ArbCom for details and leave it at that to keep speculation
off site.
Sydney
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Date: Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 14:47
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Wow, I go away for a weekend and look what happens. Yes agree with outcome, and suggestion it be taken to local police
Cas
That... was an understatement. I've blocked, removed email, and deleted the talk page history which contains plenty of creepy stalkerish interaction. Everything tagged {{arbcomblock}}. That's about as far as we can go to protect editors on our side.
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From: Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:21
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Thanks for this information, Tip. Do you have any copies of actual emails and so on from Sonia? If so, could you please email them to the Arbcom-en-L list so that we can better assess the situation?
If you don't, could you please provide someone with Sonia's email address and let her know that an arbitrator will contact her?
Thanks in advance for your help and attentiveness to this. I know from my own experiences with Sonia that she's a bit sensitive about working with male admins (possibly a negative past experience?), but she seems quite comfortable with you, which speaks well to your ability to put her at ease.
Best,
Risker/Anne
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From: Tiptoety <tiptoety@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:54
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Risker,
I have emails and IRC / google chat logs that I have sent to ArbCom.
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From: Tiptoety <tiptoety@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 22:18
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Sonia wanted me to pass along her thanks for the quick action(s)/response of everyone involved!
Good work guys!
~Tiptoety
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