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SlimeVirgin is opposing it, and went to the trouble to move the RFA page to ensure everyone knew he has applied thrice before. Otherwise, it's running pretty strongly in support.

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QUOTE(gomi @ Sun 28th January 2007, 1:44am) *

SlimeVirgin is opposing it, and went to the trouble to move the RFA page to ensure everyone knew he has applied thrice before. Otherwise, it's running pretty strongly in suport.


Werdna is clearly going to get adminship unless something drastic comes up. The current objections are pretty minor.
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From his user page:

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I'm a libertarian, and believe in the absolute right of freedom of speech and expression, and anonymity for every person.

Well, there you go! He's the ideal Wikipedian... how could he lose?
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 27th January 2007, 10:35pm) *

From his user page:

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I'm a libertarian, and believe in the absolute right of freedom of speech and expression, and anonymity for every person.


Well, there you go! He's the ideal Wikipedian... how could he lose?


Lemmegethistraitnabot asks:

So then he believes in the right of Daniel Brandt to remain anonymous?

Werdnabot responds by emitting mass quanta of Blue Smoke (BS) ...

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QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 27th January 2007, 7:35pm) *

From his user page:

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Well, there you go! He's the ideal Wikipedian... how could he lose?


By far Wikipedia could do much worse. You are always calling for more automation in Wikipedia, Werdna is one of the few people with the know how to do so.

So, who knows, I'd say Werdna isn't a bad choice at all. Wikipedia could do a lot worse.

That reminds me, maybe I should go support.....

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Well, don't get me wrong - I'm sure he's a very nice guy, and he's clearly a fine programmer too. I'm just wondering, if his user page said something like, "I'm a liberal humanist who believes that everyone on Wikipedia should identify themselves with their real names, for genuine accountability within the larger context of civilized culture," would they even let him run those bots in the first place? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

Still, I'd probably vote for him, if only because the people supporting him seem like OK people. (Except for Cyde, of course!)
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It's not a consensus unless SV says it is.
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 28th January 2007, 2:57pm) *


So then he believes in the right of Daniel Brandt to remain anonymous?



Actually, I think that Wikipedia should delete the article and get on with life. Some people have a more combative attitude towards it...

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QUOTE(Somey @ Sun 28th January 2007, 4:34am) *

Still, I'd probably vote for him, if only because the people supporting him seem like OK people. (Except for Cyde, of course!)

And David Gerard is a great guy.

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QUOTE(Werdna648 @ Sun 28th January 2007, 6:13am) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 28th January 2007, 2:57pm) *

So then he believes in the right of Daniel Brandt to remain anonymous?


Actually, I think that Wikipedia should delete the article and get on with life. Some people have a more combative attitude towards it.

Werdna


What do you think is in the way of them complying with DB's request?

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The Cabal is completely split, which may have implications far beyond one RfA. In support are Dmcdevit, David Gerard and Ryulong. Against are SV, Jayjg and our old friend and wannabe Cabalist Grace Note.
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QUOTE(guy @ Sun 28th January 2007, 8:27am) *
And David Gerard is a great guy

Just for the record, I actually do think Dave Gerard is a reasonably decent sort of person, and that he doesn't deliberately intend to harm people, generally speaking. It's just that he's pretty much always wrong about everything, and will never, ever admit it.
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Werdnabot is really useful. SV said like "great botwork doesn't make a great admin" or the like.

Malber I think complained abouy talk comment erasing.

Diablo or someone complained that Werdna tried to get an article speedily deleted when it was notable and the article went to AFD and got a clear keep.

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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 29th January 2007, 12:25am) *

Just for the record, I actually do think Dave Gerard is a reasonably decent sort of person, and that he doesn't deliberately intend to harm people, generally speaking. It's just that he's pretty much always wrong about everything, and will never, ever admit it.

He does sometimes; he unblocked Poetlister.

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Diablo or someone complained that Werdna tried to get an article speedily deleted when it was notable and the article went to AFD and got a clear keep.

Mailer Diablo isn't Cabal, is he?
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QUOTE(guy @ Mon 29th January 2007, 3:56am) *
He does sometimes; he unblocked Poetlister.

Charles Matthews unblocked Poetlister... There's an edit summary stating he "discussed" it with Dave via e-mail first, but AFAIK there has never been any public admission by Dave that he made a mistake, and certainly nothing like an apology. I personally believe Dave is one of those people who is pathologically incapable of admitting to, or apologizing for, anything - at least not sincerely - which makes him the perfect WP press spokesman, when you think about it!
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Is Jayjg a sockpoodle of SlimVirgin's? It seems like lately he's about two minutes behind her with a rubber stamp.
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Hmm... Werdna, you probably shouldn't have reminded them that you have an account here! Not that you've ever said much of anything critical of WP, but there were 17 oppose votes prior to that over a 40-hour period, and now 13 more since then over a 32-hour period.

I could change the account name, or even erase some stuff if you think that would help... Banning you wouldn't do much good though, since they'd just assume we did it to help you out, and that would probably just make matters worse! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 28th January 2007, 9:33am) *

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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 28th January 2007, 2:57pm) *

So then he believes in the right of Daniel Brandt to remain anonymous?


Actually, I think that Wikipedia should delete the article and get on with life. Some people have a more combative attitude towards it.

Werdna


What do you think is in the way of them complying with DB's request?

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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Mon 29th January 2007, 7:04am) *

Is Jayjg a sockpoodle of SlimVirgin's? It seems like lately he's about two minutes behind her with a rubber stamp.

I just think they're in cahoots. When Slimey wants something done with plausible deniability, she emails Jayjg, and he does it, and to some degree vice-versa. So Jayjg helpfully protects articles that Slim is edit-warring over, and indef blocks anyone who dares to stand up to her, if it would look untoward for her to do it herself. She accuses anyone arguing with Jayjg of incivility and trolling, and scares them away. This has been going on for last least 9 months.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Mon 29th January 2007, 1:51pm) *

Charles Matthews unblocked Poetlister... There's an edit summary stating he "discussed" it with Dave via e-mail first, but AFAIK there has never been any public admission by Dave that he made a mistake, and certainly nothing like an apology.

Quite right, and Guy should have known that. I e-mailed David Gerard twice, offering to phone him or even visit him to prove I was who I said I was, but he never responded.
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