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| It's the blimp, Frank |
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Hi, everyone, I am the author of this article, which has been getting a fair amount of traffic lately, thanks to the link from Wikipedia-watch. I am planning to expand it, with a concise catalogue of SlimVirgin's patented POV combat techniques, so I am asking WR members for some material for this section. Please be brief. 1. For her trump card, accusations of sockpuppetry, I already have the "linguistic skills" quote, and this suave formulation to illustrate the glories of check user. 2. I need some stuff on her rhetorical/sophistical approach, with choice quotes 3. Maybe some examples of her work with Jayjg? Thanks in advance. |
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| Jonny Cache |
Wed 11th April 2007, 4:28pm
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Wed 11th April 2007, 11:33am)  Hi, everyone, I am the author of this article, which has been getting a fair amount of traffic lately, thanks to the link from Wikipedia-watch. I am planning to expand it, with a concise catalogue of SlimVirgin's patented POV combat techniques, so I am asking WR members for some material for this section. Please be brief. 1. For her trump card, accusations of sockpuppetry, I already have the "linguistic skills" quote, and this suave formulation to illustrate the glories of check user. 2. I need some stuff on her rhetorical/sophistical approach, with choice quotes 3. Maybe some examples of her work with Jayjg? Thanks in advance. I will dynamic-post a few choice examples from my own experience on this page. Tactic 1. The User Talk Page Paradigm Shift, also known as The Old Switch And Bait, The Old Soft Slew, etc. — - Example 1. The opening pwn move illustrated here, where a Policy Discussion in Open Forum leads to a Sneak Attack on a User Talk Page, is usually followed up by increasingly brutal WikiWhoopings Behind The WikiWoodShed, the WikiPerfunctory Block For Yakety Yak Don't Talk Bak, the WikiWoefully Epologetic "This Hurts Me More Than You" Ban, finessed up by Calling In The Midnight Cleaners to erase the evidence and protect the User Talk Page from "Vandalism" by The Newly Minted Troll.
Tactic 2. SlimVirgin and Jayjg Tag-Teaming on a POV-Putsch Attack. Using Demonstrably False Charges of Banned User Proxies as an excuse for Mass Deletions of Valid Content contributed by Numerous Non-Banned Editors. Jonny  This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Thu 12th April 2007, 4:44pm |
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| Jonny Cache |
Wed 11th April 2007, 6:40pm
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One of the things I really miss about Wikipedia compared to Wikipedia Review is this — QUOTE
Not Enuff Damn Templates !!!
So here's one that I wikiwhipped up for those of you who still have posting privies there: QUOTE
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| If you link to an attack site again you may be blocked from editing. The Arbcom has ruled that [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/MONGO#Links_to_attack_site "Deliberately linking to an attack site may be grounds for blocking"]. Many thanks, <font color="Royal Purple">[[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]]<sup>[[User_talk:SlimVirgin|(talk)]]</sup></font> 03:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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¤ Here's What It Looks Like In Living Colo(u)r ¤ Of course, some of you will find that you need to adjust the thickness of your cellpadding, but that's the nice thing about Wikipedia — You Can Fix It !!!Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Wed 11th April 2007, 10:10pm |
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| gomi |
Thu 12th April 2007, 2:46am
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| Herschelkrustofsky |
Thu 12th April 2007, 6:31am
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QUOTE(FNORD23 @ Wed 11th April 2007, 2:20pm)
SlimV and Chip's politics are similar? I don't have as much experience with Chip as many here, but have had some with Slim - who seemed to me to be a staunch defender of Israel, Neoconservatism, and bush foreign policy in general. I had some interactions with her on the Zombietime article for a couple weeks just before I got banned. Isn't she part of the Neocon Cadre who are working tirelessly to purge Wiki from as many mentions of the terms 'Neoconservative' and 'Neoconservatism' as possible - and spin the term to imply that anyone who uses it is a 'Jew hating Islamofascist sympathizer'? Chip seemed to be a staunch Lefty to me. Am I wrong?
Yes, I would say so. Chip has for years been what is called a "faux-leftist," the kind of leftist that pulls in the Big Bucks from the Ford Foundation for hounding all the real leftists. He has had no interest that I know of in economic justice -- only "identity politics." In recent years he has made a significant move toward the Neo-Cons. Predictably, this takes the form of attacking anyone who criticizes them as an anti-Semite, because several major Neo-Cons are nominally Jewish. He is joined by his buddies in this tactic -- take a look at this section on "coded discourse." |
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| Jonny Cache |
Fri 13th April 2007, 4:26pm
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Fri 13th April 2007, 11:44am)
I am particularly interested in well-documented (diffs, please) accounts of SlimVirgin blocking other editors in order to gain the upper hand in content disputes, which is specifically prohibited by Wikipedia Blocking Policy.
Folks here have been counting diff coup on SlimVirgin and all her SlimVestals till we're blue in the face. We've even speculated on the sort of software tools that we'd need in order to really keep track of Admin Vandals in real time. But after a while you get burned out by the fact that all those little diffs don't make a BIG DIFF to NE1. Now why is that? One reason goes back to the Effective Ingredient of the BIG LIE. The more that everybody keeps staring at the BIG LIE, the more accustomed, desensitized, habituated, and used to it they get. And all that does it make it possible for the BIG LIARS to turn the BIG LIE into an even BIGGER LIE. The only way to escape the escalation of BIGGER AND BIGGER LIES is not bury your nose in this differential dust, but to root out the BIG LIE at its root. Jonny This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Fri 13th April 2007, 4:32pm |
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| Robster |
Sat 14th April 2007, 12:47am
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QUOTE(BobbyBombastic @ Fri 13th April 2007, 12:57pm) taking a look at her enemy's list might be a good place to initiate some research if you haven't already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SlimVirgin/LYou can't: QUOTE(SlimVirgin@WP @ Fri 13th April 2007, 6:05pm) 18:05, 13 April 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/L" (as agreed) Not that this surprises anyone here, right? |
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| anon1234 |
Sat 14th April 2007, 12:56am
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QUOTE(Robster @ Sat 14th April 2007, 12:47am) QUOTE(BobbyBombastic @ Fri 13th April 2007, 12:57pm) taking a look at her enemy's list might be a good place to initiate some research if you haven't already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SlimVirgin/LYou can't: QUOTE(SlimVirgin@WP @ Fri 13th April 2007, 6:05pm) 18:05, 13 April 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/L" (as agreed) Not that this surprises anyone here, right? There is a great trick that admins can do on Wikipedia. They have the power to undelete remember. Thus they can pull up that deleted page whenever they desire. I have seen some admins undelete a page, add more information and then delete it again. I think SlimVirgin did this with one page a half dozen or so times when she was tracking someone. |
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| gomi |
Sat 14th April 2007, 2:12am
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QUOTE(anon1234 @ Fri 13th April 2007, 5:56pm) There is a great trick that admins can do here. They have the power to undelete remember. Thus they can pull up that deleted page whenever they desire. I have seen some admins undelete a page, add more information and then delete it again. I think SlimVirgin did this with one page a half dozen or so times when she was tracking someone. As in this case. It was an evidence page about User:Gnetwerker. CODE
* 20:59, 15 March 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT"
* 20:53, 15 March 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) restored "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (48 revisions restored)
* 18:21, 14 March 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT"
* 18:09, 14 March 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) restored "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (44 revisions restored)
* 14:00, 14 March 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT"
* 13:48, 14 March 2007 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) restored "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (41 revisions restored)
* 08:55, 28 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (not needed)
* 08:48, 28 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) restored "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (40 revisions restored)
* 01:46, 24 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (content before blanking was: 'What is the purpose of this page?')
* 03:20, 3 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT"
* 02:58, 3 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) restored "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (35 revisions restored)
* 06:09, 2 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (delete until needed)
* 05:38, 2 December 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) restored "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (29 revisions restored)
* 08:17, 20 September 2006 SlimVirgin (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:SlimVirgin/GNT" (not needed)
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| anon1234 |
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 14th April 2007, 6:12am)
Did anyone save a copy?
I found a copy in my browser's cache a few minutes ago: QUOTE {{LaRouche Talk}}
A list of accounts known or strongly suspected as [[LaRouche movement]] accounts, in order of arrival.
#{{user11|64.30.208.48}}, May 15, 2004, resolves to Linkline, Santa Monica, California.
#:An abuse report exists on [[user:64.30.208.48|64.30.208.48]] for sending out LaRouche press releases as spam during the 2004 election for the governor of California. [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=7abfe569.0306031135.120df01%40posting.google.com
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#{{user11|172.199.126.121}}, May 16, 2004, created [[Chip Berlet]] and [[Dennis King]], May 16, 2004, resolves to Los Angeles, California, and other IP addresses within the same ranges 172.128.0.0 - 172.191.255.255 and 172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255, sometimes signing as Peter_Abelard@ausi.com. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyndon_LaRouche&diff=5989946&oldid=5989902] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyndon_LaRouche&diff=6403549&oldid=6403501] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schiller_Institute&diff=8884592&oldid=8847838] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asian_Highway&diff=6334844&oldid=6308398] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Danby&diff=4595951&oldid=4593276]
#:Jul 26, 2004, as [[User:172.197.96.137|172.197.96.137]] at [[Talk:Lyndon LaRouche]] wrote his/her name as Peter_Abelard@ausi.com [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ALyndon_LaRouche&diff=4881464&oldid=4857997]
#:Aug 30, 2004, as [[User:172.195.201.53|172.195.201.53]] at [[Talk:Lyndon LaRouche]] again gave his/her name as Peter_Abelard @ausi.com [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ALyndon_LaRouche&diff=5536197&oldid=5534473]
#:Sept 27, 2004 as [[User:172.199.24.28|172.199.24.28]] at [[Talk:Asian Highway]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asian_Highway&diff=0]
#:Sept 27, 2004, the 14:53 edit attribution was changed from [[User:172.199.24.28|172.199.24.28]] to [[User:Weed Harper|Weed Harper]]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Asian_Highway&diff=0]
#:Dec 27, 2004 as [[User:172.194.97.169|172.194.97.169]] at [[Schiller Institute]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Schiller_Institute&diff=8884592&oldid=8847838]
#:The IP address ranges 172.192.0.0 - 172.216.255.255 and 172.128.0.0 - 172.191.255.255 have been used to post LaRouche press releases and other material on Usenet. A "Ralph Gibbons" has posted several. [http://groups.google.ca/groups?as_q=%20larouche&safe=images&as_uauthors=ralph%20gibbons&lr=&hl=en] LaRouche press releases and other material from the same two AOL IP address ranges that were used on Wikipedia [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=7abfe569.0401152316.71f43441%40posting.google.com&output=gplain] [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=7a2d2c30.0304270620.7fbbb679%40posting.google.com&output=gplain] [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=7a2d2c30.0306120651.4fe83589%40posting.google.com&output=gplain] [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=7abfe569.0401280728.6c54c5cf%40posting.google.com&output=gplain], and material from "Weed Harper." [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=4db933f4.0401251313.25f577c6%40posting.google.com&output=gplain] [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=4db933f4.0407031157.1bb0dc5a%40posting.google.com&output=gplain] [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=4db933f4.0401291706.46219ffe%40posting.google.com&output=gplain] [http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=4db933f4.0402070804.33f4ac92%40posting.google.com&output=gplain]
#{{User11|198.81.26.48}}, May 18, 2004, to create [[Amelia Boynton Robinson]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amelia_Boynton_Robinson&action=history&limit=100&offset=0]
#:May 18, 2004 as [[User:198.81.26.76|198.81.26.76]] to edit [[Chip Berlet]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chip_Berlet&diff=3631601&oldid=3631419]
#:May 19, 2004 as [[User:198.81.26.76|198.81.26.76]] at [[American System (economics)]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_System_%28economics%29&diff=prev&oldid=3743104]
#:Dec 4, 2004 as [[User:198.81.26.76|198.81.26.76]] at [[Chip Berlet]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chip_Berlet&diff=prev&oldid=8181809]
#:Jan 9, 2005 as [[User:198.81.26.73|198.81.26.73]] at [[Chip Berlet]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chip_Berlet&diff=9235875&oldid=9230802]
#{{user11|Herschelkrustofsky}} May 19, 2004, acknowledged he was from California, check user confirmed he posted from {{user11|64.30.208.48}} (Santa Monica, CA) and the AOL addresses that were the source of LaRouche press releases on Usenet.
#{{user11|Weed Harper}}, August 6, 2004, who sometimes signed as Peter Abelard, as did some of the AOL addresses, check user confirmed he also posted from {{user11|64.30.208.48}} and the AOL addresses.
#{{user11|C Colden}}, September 1, 2004.
#{{user11|The Power of Reason}}, June 6, 2005.
#{{user11|The Power of Human Reason}}, June 7, 2005.
#{{user11|Cognition}}, July 12, 2005 — [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Nobs01_and_others/Evidence
#Evidence_presented_by_.7BCognition.7D|Cognition's unforgettable statement]] :-)
#{{user11|BirdsOfFire}}, November 2, 2005.
#{{user11|NathanDW}}, November 12, 2005.
#{{user11|Northmeister}}, February 5, 2006.
#{{user11|IAMthatIAM}}, March 20, 2006.
#{{user11|IAMwhatsIAM}}, March 23, 2006.
#{{user11|71.35.98.217}}, May 29, 2006, Qwest, Seattle, Washington.
#{{user11|ISTJester}}, June 3, 2006.
#{{user11|Nemesis1981}}, July 10, 2006.
#{{user11|ManEatingDonut}}, August 21, 2006.
#{{user11|Tsunami Butler}}, October 7, 2006.
#{{user11|63.3.66.18}}, January 16, 2007, resolves to UUNET Technologies, Burbank, California.
#{{user11|Dr. Gary Carter}}, January 18, 2007.
#{{user11|HonourableSchoolboy}}, January 20, 2007.
#{{user11|76.166.224.229}}, February 1, 2007, Roadrunner, location unknown.
#{{user11|89.62.102.62}}, February 24, 2007, resolves to STRATO Medien AG, Germany.
#{{user11|Don't lose that number}}, February 25, 2007. |
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