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There is already a thread in a separate forum which touches on this subject. Rather than discussing the Robertson lawsuit article itself, however, I'm going to focus this on Weiss. It appears that JohnnyB256 was the latest reincarnation of Weiss/Mantanmoreland, although it's not stated that way, instead identifying private evidence as the reason for the block. Nevertheless, assuming that the account was operated by Weiss, here's a few things I take away from this episode:

- Why did Weiss react the way he did when I posted the Robertson lawsuit article? Didn't he notice what happened when SlimVirgin and Will BeBack reacted violently to the Eurasian Land Bridge article? Because of their reaction to that article, they made it very clear to everyone that they are not in the least bit neutral about LaRouche. Like them, Weiss should have ignored the article.

- When Weiss did get involved right away, he didn't even try to appear neutral about it. He changed the article to make Robertson look worse and minimize Weiss' involvement. He drastically shortened the lede at the same time he nominated it for deletion. He removed most of the categories. He removed the wikilinks to the article from the McGraw-Hill and BusinessWeek articles, but not from the Robertson or Tiger Management articles. Obvious POV editing.

- The lawsuit article may or may not survive, but one of the reasons this is only an issue is because Weiss fought so hard in the past to keep any mention of it out of his bio. The story is reported on in too many sources- Wall Street Journal, NY Times, etc to ignore it. If he had allowed a short paragraph on it to be added to his bio years ago, then he wouldn't now have to worry about a complete article on the story to exist on Wikipedia or elsewhere (such as Wikipedia Review).

- Has Weiss noticed how many people came out of the woodwork to support keeping the Robertson lawsuit article? Will he now realize that there are now far more people with an interest in seeing him lose his battle over Wikipedia than he has friends willing to help him? (I'm not saying that everyone who voted to delete the article is a friend of Weiss'.)

- Does Weiss realize that the next article about him that may appear in Wikipedia could be titled "Gary Weiss Wikipedia editing controversy", or "Weiss v. Byrne naked short selling feud"? The Register is not the only source to report on these stories, and may not be the main source in the future. Even if the Register was the main source for those articles, from what I'm seeing with regard to the Roberson lawsuit article, it is not a given that the Wikipedia community would vote to delete those articles if created.

- I guess the big question is, will Weiss learn his lesson from everything that has happened so far? Will he realize that he has lost and lost badly his battle to manipulate Wikipedia for his own agenda? Will he now cut his losses and walk away?

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Cla68   JohnnyB256 is gone  
Somey   - Why did Weiss react the way he did when I posted...  
One   - Has Weiss noticed how many people came out of t...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='212369' date='Tue 29th ...  
One   I have 12 solid, independent, unarguably reliable ...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='212528' date='Wed 30th ...  
WordBomb   - I guess the big question is, will Weiss learn hi...  
thekohser   ...I, in that same time period, have made about 1...  
WordBomb   [quote name='WordBomb' post='212378' date='Tue 29t...  
thekohser   Go easy on Fozzie. It was entirely my intention t...  
WordBomb   Go easy on Fozzie. It was entirely my intention ...  
Cedric   Very astute. I don't know if I've mention...  
Piperdown   Very astute. I don't know if I've mentio...  
WordBomb   This one is likely GW--> User:Patchyreynolds K...  
CharlotteWebb   I don't suppose y'all have ever stumbled u...  
WordBomb   I don't suppose y'all have ever stumbled u...  
CharlotteWebb   Figured as much.  
Somey   Of course. And yes..."Tamoshanter" is Ga...  
A Horse With No Name   So don't be angry at Fozzie. Indeed. Let...  
SirFozzie   So don't be angry at Fozzie. Indeed. Let...  
A Horse With No Name   No thanks. Make it a country fried steak, and you...  
WordBomb   Hey Fozzie, as long as you've got your banstic...  
A Horse With No Name   Hey Fozzie, as long as you've got your bansti...  
tarantino   The obvious socks are [url=http://en.wikipedia.o...  
EricBarbour   Stetsonharry has made 95 edits to [url=http://en...  
Somey   [quote name='tarantino' post='212488' date='Tue 29...  
Cedric   - Why did Weiss react the way he did when I poste...  
Piperdown   Just read AmishPete's WP missives. Classic Ga...  
Cla68   Hmm, if the thought of embarassing and negative in...  
Piperdown   Deep Capture opines on the latest Garyfest on the ...  
EricBarbour   Deep Capture opines on the latest Garyfest on the...  
Cla68   The AfD closed as keep. A couple of editors immed...  
Piperdown   The AfD [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...  
Piperdown   So JohnnyB256's account says "blocked, se...  
WordBomb   So JohnnyB256's account says "blocked, se...  
RDH(Ghost In The Machine)   So JohnnyB256's account says "blocked, s...  
Piperdown   Some WR fan quickly cut to the chase on JohnnyBBad...  
The Adversary   Stetsonharry made an edit back before May 2008, wh...  
Milton Roe   Stetsonharry made an edit back before May 2008, w...  
One   user:Stetsonharry only has two edits before May, ...  
thekohser   Stetsonharry made an edit back before May 2008, w...  
Cla68   [quote name='The Adversary' post='213276' date='S...  
WordBomb   [quote name='thekohser' post='213380' date='Mon 4...  
Cla68   [quote name='Cla68' post='213399' date='Sun 3rd J...  
The Adversary   Stetsonharry made an edit back before May 2008, ...  
WordBomb   It takes an Eagle Scout to know. If BSA actually ...  
A Horse With No Name   [quote name='thekohser' post='213459' date='Mon 4...  
CharlotteWebb   So Weiss and Rlvese have something in common? Ye...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='thekohser' post='213459' date='Mon 4...  
The Wales Hunter   Why the f**k is Stetsonharry still not blocked?  
Cla68   Why the f**k is Stetsonharry still not blocked? ...  
Milton Roe   Why the f**k is Stetsonharry still not blocked? ...  
Piperdown   Memo To Gary. Next time you build a gaggle of NSS...  
Cla68   Memo To Gary. Next time you build a gaggle of NS...  
The Joy   [quote name='Piperdown' post='213685' date='Tue 5...  
everyking   Memo To Gary. Next time you build a gaggle of NS...  
Cla68   [quote name='Piperdown' post='213685' date='Tue 5...  
Alison   Well, that's done. Good job Alison, Lar, and...  
WordBomb   [quote name='Cla68' post='213865' date='Tue 5th J...  
Alison   The good news is, I have to presume Weiss has rea...  
One   Well, he got a good run at it with one or two of ...  
WordBomb   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Mant...  
Milton Roe   I'm so very fond of that chart. I think I...  
One   Poor Gary's annual trips to India must be mis...  
Piperdown   The good news is, I have to presume Weiss has re...  
Mike R   I apologize if someone has answered this already, ...  
Alison   I apologize if someone has answered this already,...  
Obesity   I apologize if someone has answered this already,...  
Piperdown   I apologize if someone has answered this already...  
Cla68   [quote name='Obesity' post='213870' date='Tue 5th...  
Wikicrusher2   Of note is Weiss' editing of the Press_TV arti...  
Alison   For the record, I believe this was the impetus fo...  
WordBomb   Of note is Weiss' editing of the [wikipedia]Pr...  
Piperdown   i'd forgotten about Gary's now-defunct (af...  
cookiehead   I believe this sock bully is back as the so far ni...  
Cla68   I believe this sock bully is back as the so far n...  
WordBomb   Here's a quick tidbit for dedicated Weiss-watc...  
Piperdown   Here's a quick tidbit for dedicated Weiss-wat...  
Milton Roe   So we're a decade on, Herb Greenberg is still...  


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