Encyclopedia Dramatica (Encyclopaedia), No more MediaWiki? Options

[MZMcBride]

Anyone been following Encyclopedia Dramatica? It seems they've changed formats. I'm kind of surprised to not see a thread about it here already, though it's certainly possible I just missed it. Or maybe this place is just kinda dead at the moment.

[melloden]

Any news, Alison? I thought they were just down temporarily and set up a new site like that one Internet meme thing for kids.

[EricBarbour]

Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....

[Michaeldsuarez]

Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....

It's not a reformatted ED. Oh Internet was constructed from scratch.

[A User]

Hey guys! If you think that ohinternet.com is a "new format" of ED, I've got some nice swampland you really need to buy....

It's not a reformatted ED. Oh Internet was constructed from scratch.

Why did Ed close? Was there some lawsuit we don't know about? Seems strange it just vanished like that.

[Michaeldsuarez]

Why did Ed close? Was there some lawsuit we don't know about? Seems strange it just vanished like that.

For official answers, please Email contact@ohinternet.com.

[Somey]

My sources tell me that the redirect is a temporary measure, and that ohinternet.com is simply a "holding domain" to be used while authorities search for Sherrod DeGrippo's stolen wig collection.

Apparently Ms. DeGrippo had an astonishingly large collection of wigs. Why she would want to steal so many is still a bit of a mystery, but we all have our little foibles and eccentricities, I suppose.

[Daniel Brandt]

Queen Sherrod did not like ED. Neither did any rational observer with a social conscience. Good riddance.

[Somey]

Good riddance.

Wait a minute, are you saying none of those stolen wigs will ever be returned to their rightful owners?

Think of all the endangered mountain gorillas out there who now have no pubic hair, and for what? It all seems so tragically pointless.

[Daniel Brandt]

[Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol

[A User]

[Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol

The log proves the cream of wikipedia's intelligentsia edited there.

[EricBarbour]

[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE

Is THAT who she blames? Ha ha ha.

Mebbe I should sell HER the swampland.

Mr. Brandt, did you finally get thru to them, and that's why ED is "gone for good"?
If so, a) good fer you and have a drink, and b) where am I gonna go to look up
crazy people from Livejournal and Deviant Art? That was practically the only legitimate
use ED had--it listed some of the worst net-trolls. In a maybe-not-deserved
shit-on-their-heads format, granted.
But at least there was something. How else can you find out that wackos like
Snapesnogger and Jessica Elwood aren't who they say they are?


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[Somey]

But isn't this always how these things end up? I mean, you put together a perfectly good shock site, dedicated to racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, and advocacy of a wide variety of sexual perversions, only to have it ruined by 12-year-old btard fgz. I mean, what's the point of even trying anymore? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif)

[carbuncle]

Good riddance.

Wait a minute, are you saying none of those stolen wigs will ever be returned to their rightful owners?

Think of all the endangered mountain gorillas out there who now have no pubic hair, and for what? It all seems so tragically pointless.

[Daniel Brandt]

Mr. Brandt, did you finally get thru to them, and that's why ED is "gone for good"?

I would say that josephevers.blogspot.com hastened the inevitable.

I helped with the research and the photos, and logged IRC for 8 months, but I don't have the password to the site. The owner of that blog is someone you all don't know from WR. I don't even know what country he/she lives in. He/she is that lovable all-Tor-all-the-time researcher on WR. A damn good researcher. Hats off to him/her.

[carbuncle]

He/she is that lovable all-Tor-all-the-time researcher on WR. A damn good researcher. Hats off to him/her.

A sinister little midget with a bucket and a mop? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

[Emperor]

But isn't this always how these things end up? I mean, you put together a perfectly good shock site, dedicated to racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, and advocacy of a wide variety of sexual perversions, only to have it ruined by 12-year-old btard fgz. I mean, what's the point of even trying anymore? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif)

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) lousy kids.

[Theanima]

This new "ohinternet" is down for me...

[Sarcasticidealist]

Good riddance.

I'll drink to that. And to more or less anything else, these days. But don't let my nascent alcoholism diminish the glory of this accomplishment.

[Somey]

I'll drink to that. And to more or less anything else, these days. But don't let my nascent alcoholism diminish the glory of this accomplishment.

It seemed appropriate...

[Daniel Brandt]

This new "ohinternet" is down for me...

One or two btards (see /b/ subheading in this article) were DDoSing ohinternet.com with their Low Orbit Internet Cannon. This resulted in massive packet losses on the last hop, and your connection timed out. But it's past their bedtime now, and everything seems okay.

The btard reaction to the ohinternet.com "sell-out" surprises me. They're throwing tantrums, thereby confirming Sherrod's low opinion of them.

But the larger issue is that ED should have purged these losers in 2006. ED waited too long, and now there are a lot of them, and they are all mad as hell at Sherrod. Most of ED's high traffic was fueled by the btard affinity for vulgarity and kinkiness. It will be difficult for ohinternet.com to succeed without that sort of magnetism, it seems to me.

[EricBarbour]

But the larger issue is that ED should have purged these losers in 2006. ED waited too long, and now there are a lot of them, and they are all mad as hell at Sherrod. Most of ED's high traffic was fueled by the btard affinity for vulgarity and kinkiness. It will be difficult for ohinternet.com to succeed without that sort of magnetism, it seems to me.

Nothing succeeds on the net like douchebaggery. Even more popular than porn, I suspect.

Do you know how many 4chan-type imageboards there are now? Hundreds, easily.
Most of them started by, and dominated by, the kind of 14-year-old bigots that helped
make /b/ world-famous. ED used to have a good list of _chans, but that's gone now.
This is pathetic by comparison.

[Milton Roe]

[Mar 20 2011 01:32:14] <sherrod> i fucking hate ED so much
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <Cunt_Destroyer> fucking SAD
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:17] <sherrod> the whold fucking thing
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:19] <Cunt_Destroyer> AS FUCK
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:20] <sherrod> ther eis nothing redeeming about it
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:23] <sherrod> burn to ground
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:36] <hipcrime> it was good for a while
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:56] <sherrod> hipcrime: i dunni
[Mar 20 2011 01:32:58] <sherrod> maybe
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:03] <sherrod> i think that btards ruined it
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:05] <sherrod> 12 year olds
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:06] <sherrod> etc
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:18] <hipcrime> yeah.
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:20] <Finney> sherrod: 5 years ago we should have just started auto-deleting ever crap article made
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:25] <Finney> and driven the fags away
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:32] <sherrod> Finney: AGREE
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:44] <Finney> We need a time machine
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:56] <ttj> you could always start over
[Mar 20 2011 01:33:58] <sherrod> Finney: i made a mistake by letting people do whatever they want
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:07] <sherrod> i didnt check in or care and it just went completely retarded
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:19] <Finney> I understand doing it in the name of "no censorship"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:39] <Finney> but I guess it should have been "no censorship except for unfunny shit"
[Mar 20 2011 01:34:59] <sherrod> yeah
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:08] <sherrod> clearly anonymous free speech does not work
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:09] <Finney> And then Nigger would still be there, because people would GET THE FUCKING JOKE
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <sherrod> that is what i have learned
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:12] <F_JUNK_DUMP> And delete all these crap articles
[Mar 20 2011 01:35:30] <Finney> sherrod: kinda sad you still had faith in humanity, lol

The log proves the cream of wikipedia's intelligentsia edited there.

Kinda reminds me of uncensored Bevis+Butthead meets blue stoner standup. You have to smoke a lot of weed to even read it. (I imagine)

[bi-winning]

Kinda reminds me of uncensored Bevis+Butthead meets blue stoner standup. You have to smoke a lot of weed to even read it. (I imagine)

I also... imagine.

Good job, whoever killed it.

[MZMcBride]

For the record, the new site is still using MediaWiki: <http://ohinternet.com/Special:Version>. I'm not quite sure why I thought otherwise; must've been the skin change or something.

The new site seems to be pretty terrible. If you want to legitimately cover Internet-related topics, you use Wikipedia. The niche that ED filled was to cover Internet culture in a more amusing and chaotic way. I can't see this new site going anywhere.

[Michaeldsuarez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclop...ca#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?

[lilburne]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclop...ca#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?

CC-BY-SA. Ah I see they didn't use the CC licenses. If the server is in the US send a DMCA notice, or file a complaint with the domain registrar.

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[Michaeldsuarez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclop...ca#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?

CC-BY-SA. Ah I see they didn't use the CC licenses. If the server is in the US send a DMCA notice, or file a complaint with the domain registrar.

Due to the Anonymous myth they buy into, these people don't believe in accountability or responsibility. They don't believe that their actions could have consequences. The only way to make them respect ED's copyrights would be to break the myth with a sharp slap in the face and to make them realize that they could be held accountable.

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[Theanima]

If you want to legitimately cover Internet-related topics, you use Wikipedia. The niche that ED filled was to cover Internet culture in a more amusing and chaotic way. I can't see this new site going anywhere.

It seems to cover many topics that WP wouldn't consider notable enough, or would have people screaming "BLP!".

[EricBarbour]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Encyclop...ca#New_ED_is_up

What gives these people the right to usurp the Encyclopedia Dramatica name and steal over six hard years of other authors' work?

Evidently, ED filled a real need. A need for shitheads to abuse each other, and everyone else.

The new one is kinda pathetic, like an homage assembled by bored teenagers (which it probably was).
The server keeps crashing out too.

Oh, btw.....here's Gawker's take on all this ED crap.
Please note this statement:

If DeGrippo sounds suspiciously like someone hoping to sell a hot property—meme-documentation rival Know Your Meme was recently sold to The Cheezburger Network for a "low seven-figure payday"—she's not letting on.

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[EricBarbour]

Believe it or not, the Web Ecology Project is attempting to preserve the old ED.......

For a look at the anger of the trolls who made ED what it was, try the Reddit 4chan section.

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[Daniel Brandt]

I asked Queen Sherrod to delete my bio on ED, after being informed by an ED insider that she was the final arbiter of all disputed content on ED. I was informed by this insider that the Queen got my email, didn't recognize my name, and then informed this insider that she (the Queen) had decided not to reply to me.

I lobbied further with the help of this insider to get my bio deleted. But this sympathetic insider felt that he/she did not have the power to do this unilaterally, even though he/she was an administrator on ED.

When Sheneequa was doxed a few weeks later (thanks to efforts by my research partner who later started josephevers.blogspot.com), this ED insider (a different person from my research partner) suddenly obtained permission to delete my bio. But by then my thinking was that there are a lot of real-life names on ED, and to put it simply, the entire site did not deserve to exist. Anyone who asked for deletion of their name from ED was treated with the utmost contempt, conveniently disguised as "lulz."

Already there are a lot of real-life names showing up on OhInternet.com. Queen Sherrod should be a lot more cautious about this; she needs to establish a policy.

To: Sherrod DeGrippo, Encyclopedia Dramatica
sherrod@girlvinyl.com
cc: [redacted]
From: Daniel Brandt, Public Information Research
Date: August 30, 2010

Dear Ms. DeGrippo:

Do you have an email address for Long Dong Silver? Or if you prefer,
can you forward this email to him?

Earlier this month, he wrote this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/cz9q...sop_ama/c0wfrm3

"As a note to any other people with a similar issue. When requesting a
removal or edit to a page, a nicely worded email will often suffice.
Cursing, ranting, and frivolous legal threats result in it being
featured on the front page as the Article Of The Now."

I wish to request the removal of the article about me on ED:
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Daniel_Brandt

It shows up as number 1 in both Google and Yahoo in a search for
"daniel brandt" without the quotation marks. Bing.com apparently has
the good taste to not index this page at all.

I am president of a tax-exempt public charity, and our board of directors
feels that this article has a negative impact on our ability to obtain
foundation funding to support our projects. They have asked me to request
that it be deleted.

Thank you,
Daniel Brandt

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Public Information Research, PO Box 680635, San Antonio TX 78268-0635
www.namebase.org [redacted]@sbcglobal.net
---------------------------------------------------------------------

[radek]

Bing.com apparently has the good taste to not index this page at all.

I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.

[Warui desu]

Bing.com apparently has the good taste to not index this page at all.

I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.

The top search result for Daniel Brandt on Bing is www.danielbrandt.com. An out-of-date, barely maintained site about some (german I think) DJ or other...
The top search result on google is www.wikipedia-watch.org. That site isn't even on the first page in Bing. Or the second. Though the 2nd page has two uncyclopedia entries for Daniel Brandt.

Bing not being evil would be nice. If they only had a search algorithm that was even somewhat competent, it might even be useful.

[Milton Roe]

I've actually switched to using Bing as opposed to google in part for this reason. It's sort of like quitting smoking, you can't quite get away from it (esp. with gbooks) but it is sort of funny when the evil corporation Microsoft turns out to be actually less evil, at least along one dimension, than the corporation that is running around in the "I am not evil" t-shirt. The kids, so ironic these days.

The expected fact that people turn out to be the very thing they strenuously and unexpectedly deny, is so hackneyed that it almost doesn't qualify as irony. "The louder he talked of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons," says Emerson.

[melloden]

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?

[Michaeldsuarez]

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?

Yes. You can see and judge for yourself. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me.

[melloden]

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?

Yes. You can see and judge for yourself. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me.

Wait, so ED is officially permanently gone?

Damn, shoulda saved that nude pic of McBride when I had the chance (wait, I think Alison deleted it, anyway ...)

[Tarc]

Michael, you're an ED admin--do they tell you about these things (setting up OI, shutting down ED) beforehand?

Yes. You can see and judge for yourself. The sysops and I first learned about the plan on January 24, but I wasn't invited to join the ohinternet.com wiki until February 8. It wasn't an easy decision to make. I made a few articles, but I didn't have the same enthusiasm for the new wiki as I did with the old one. I felt more at home at ED. I didn't see the point of begging Sherrod to keep a wiki that was clearly draining her spirits, so I never tried and spent most of my time making the users at ED comfortable. My only regret is not being permitted to tell the other users, but I didn't want to break the trust Sherrod and the other sysops placed in me.

Wait, so ED is officially permanently gone?

Damn, shoulda saved that nude pic of McBride when I had the chance (wait, I think Alison deleted it, anyway ...)

Fear not, the lulz has been preserved; http://encyclopediadramatica.ch

[Silver seren]

And adding that link is now blacklisted on Wikipedia because ED trolls have been spamming it on the ED page.