Jimbo calls for global ban on Thekohser, and his bidding is done Options

[Ottava]

Admins have pulled this crap many times before, just as a reminder.

One happened to do just that at Wikiversity (but his intention is probably lulz and trolling instead of srs bznss).


By the way, congrats Greg.

(Pro note: I don't hate Greg. I just like Wikiversity far more. But getting unblocked at Wikibooks would either have no consequences or get them shut down, so, either way it doesn't affect me. Woot woot).

This post has been edited by Ottava: Mon 13th September 2010, 3:40am

[thekohser]

Admins have pulled this crap many times before, just as a reminder.

One happened to do just that at Wikiversity (but his intention is probably lulz and trolling instead of srs bznss).


By the way, congrats Greg.

(Pro note: I don't hate Greg. I just like Wikiversity far more. But getting unblocked at Wikibooks would either have no consequences or get them shut down, so, either way it doesn't affect me. Woot woot).

You make so little sense, Ottava. If you think wiki-politics is your future, my advice is don't quit the family farming business.

[Jon Awbrey]

You make so little sense, Ottava. If you think wiki-politics is your future, my advice is don't quit the family farming business.

No, No, No, weren't you watching the filmstrip ??? —

Ottava is the King, Abd is the bluddy peasant.

Jon

[Ottava]

You make so little sense, Ottava. If you think wiki-politics is your future, my advice is don't quit the family farming business.

No, No, No, weren't you watching the filmstrip ??? —

Ottava is the King, Abd is the bluddy peasant.

Jon

I always hated Anarcho-Communists, and there are no problems with damp bints tossing scimitars.

[dogbiscuit]

Mod note: inane, irrelevant and obnoxious ramblings on religion deposited elsewhere.

[Abd]

Mod note: inane, irrelevant and obnoxious ramblings on religion deposited elsewhere.

For transparency, care to reveal to the subjects of your dominion where you deposited them? For our academic interest in inanity, social irrelevancy, obnoxiousness, distraction, and, for that matter, what some consider the same thing, religion?

[Abd]

One happened to do just that at Wikiversity (but his intention is probably lulz and trolling instead of srs bznss).

This would be Ottava's opinion of SB_Johnny, couldn't be anyone else. And what SB_Johnny actually did was to drop in to function to show consensus of 75% for unblocking Thekohser, before actually doing it, thus putting a big dent in Ottava's regency.

I note the similarity between Ottava's position -- that confirming and establishing action based on consensus is "trolling" -- and that of Mike.lifeguard. Mike had the sense to resign before the shit came down for it, thus preserving his options for later.

Will Ottava also have such sense?

Popcorn on sale in the lobby.

[The Joy]

Moving my relevant post back here sans off-topic religious sentence.

At any rate, this a clear victory for Greg. Jimbo's ability to control all WMF wikis has failed and the power of the Stewards has been successfully challenged. A small wiki defeated Jimbo and his Steward henchmen.

We should rejoice for this victory, but the war is far from over.

This... is... Wikibooks!



Adrignola leads WikiBookians against the more numerous Stewards!

[dogbiscuit]

Mod note: inane, irrelevant and obnoxious ramblings on religion deposited elsewhere.

For transparency, care to reveal to the subjects of your dominion where you deposited them? For our academic interest in inanity, social irrelevancy, obnoxiousness, distraction, and, for that matter, what some consider the same thing, religion?

A search on recent postings containing the words shit-head and liar should find it. It really, really, isn't worth looking for aside from, how does the youth of today put it, the lutz.

[Abd]

Mod note: inane, irrelevant and obnoxious ramblings on religion deposited elsewhere.

For transparency, care to reveal to the subjects of your dominion where you deposited them? For our academic interest in inanity, social irrelevancy, obnoxiousness, distraction, and, for that matter, what some consider the same thing, religion?

A search on recent postings containing the words shit-head and liar should find it. It really, really, isn't worth looking for aside from, how does the youth of today put it, the lutz.

Found it under Religious crap, from the Righteous Brothers. Somehow, yanked from context, it just wasn't the same.

Meanwhile, at meta, GerardM dropped a pearl of wisdom, or some other kind of dropping, about what "we" don't need. Where had I see this name before? Ah. Here, the Public Speakers talk page.

The same theme. "Our" community. A rejection of contrary opinion as being from outsiders, trolls. Mike.lifeguard lives on in spirit.

Did anyone salute Gerard's droppings there? Apparently not. Gregory Kohs is still on the speaker's list. I suppose it could change any time. However, that was a standing consensus.

GerardM completely neglected the evidence and arguments given on the RfC page, which were very much about policy and the welfare of the overall community, and, after all, meta is the coordinating wiki for the entire community, it exists to serve, not itself, but the various wikis. It has been infected, however, with certain administrators who serve their own opinions and feelings, as GerardM so eloquently states:

In my opinion ending the block before its time has no likely benefit. It only results in wranglings like this. As far as I am concerned we do not need him and his ilk. Thanks [[User:GerardM|GerardM]] 18:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Ending the block only results in "wranglings like this"? It was most a fairly sober discussion until GerardM staggered in.

It seems he might be confused, does he think that this was a request to unblock Thekohser? Only for Talk page access, which was allowed when the block was originally created. It is only the wild-ass removal of Talk page access, for no apparent reason, that is at issue.

Now, if it had been true that there was a global ban, the complete block would have made some kind of sense, within that universe. But if there is no global ban, then Thekohser can be -- and is -- a participating user at WMF wikis, and should have similar access to resources at meta as other users, providing he behaves himself at meta. And he was, largely. There was no Talk page abuse, in spite of the block summary.

[I-20]

Moving my relevant post back here sans off-topic religious sentence.

At any rate, this a clear victory for Greg. Jimbo's ability to control all WMF wikis has failed and the power of the Stewards has been successfully challenged. A small wiki defeated Jimbo and his Steward henchmen.

We should rejoice for this victory, but the war is far from over.

This... is... Wikibooks!



Adrignola leads WikiBookians against the more numerous Stewards!

And don't forget that the co-leader was QuiteUnusual

[thekohser]

Interesting to note that 10 days after Google crawling them, Google seems to rank my content on Wikipedia Review at #1 on this search, whereas Wikibooks' copy of the content is nowhere to be found, until you click "Show duplicate content", and then it appears, just after Wikipedia Review.

I conclude that for someone seeking an audience for book-style free content, Wikipedia Review would be a better location to publish it than Wikibooks. Therefore, I'm not sure I'll be using Wikibooks very much going forward.

This post has been edited by thekohser: Mon 20th September 2010, 2:42pm

[Enric_Naval]

Interesting to note that 10 days after Google crawling them, Google seems to rank my content on Wikipedia Review at #1 on this search, whereas Wikibooks' copy of the content is nowhere to be found, until you click "Show duplicate content", and then it appears, just after Wikipedia Review.

I conclude that for someone seeking an audience for book-style free content, Wikipedia Review would be a better location to publish it than Wikibooks. Therefore, I'm not sure I'll be using Wikibooks very much going forward.

You know, I get tired of seeing how you torture keywords to get your website to appear in the first place. That's shameless weaseling merketing at its best .

I think that a more natural search would be the first few words of Roosevelt's quote "We have got to be tough with Germany" and neither your page nor Wikibooks appear on the first page of results. Your page is at #12 and Wikibooks is a duplicate result in #45.

[thekohser]

You know, I get tired of seeing how you torture keywords to get your website to appear in the first place. That's shameless weaseling merketing at its best .

I think that a more natural search would be the first few words of Roosevelt's quote "We have got to be tough with Germany" and neither your page nor Wikibooks appear on the first page of results. Your page is at #12 and Wikibooks is a duplicate result in #45.

Thank you for verifying that Wikipedia Review would be a better location to publish content than Wikibooks.

I also agree that we have got to be tough with Germany.

Hi, Google!

This post has been edited by thekohser: Mon 20th September 2010, 6:16pm

[Enric_Naval]

You know, I get tired of seeing how you torture keywords to get your website to appear in the first place. That's shameless weaseling merketing at its best .

I think that a more natural search would be the first few words of Roosevelt's quote "We have got to be tough with Germany" and neither your page nor Wikibooks appear on the first page of results. Your page is at #12 and Wikibooks is a duplicate result in #45.

Thank you for verifying that Wikipedia Review would be a better location to publish content than Wikibooks.

I also agree that we have got to be tough with Germany.

Hi, Google!

Thank you for completely ignoring my point.

P.D.: Hum, did wikipediareview just disappear from google's results? It was there a couple hours ago... linkie

This post has been edited by Enric_Naval: Wed 22nd September 2010, 6:08pm

[thekohser]

Thank you for completely ignoring my point.

P.D.: Hum, did wikipediareview just disappear from google's results? It was there a couple hours ago... linkie

You're welcome.

Google is very strange. Sometimes they bump a page up nice and high, then later put it so low you might never find it. This seems to happen most often to newer pages in the index. Eventually, the process kind of levels out, and the page finds its final resting place in the results, unless some new dramatic attention (via links back) is paid to the page, elsewhere on the Internet.

See what happens when you add "Wikipedia Review" to that same search. It's still indexed, for sure. At least, that's what I'm seeing right now. I suppose in two weeks, it could be gone altogether.

[Emperor]

Yes if you torture the search terms enough, you can get surprising results.

[thekohser]

Time for all of you with dusty old Wikiquote accounts to come out of the woodwork and support unblock!

[thekohser]

Jimbo really doesn't want to deal with Wikiquote, does he?

[thekohser]

It looks like I had a short-lived "Liberation Front" organization working on my (unsolicited) behalf, from Missouri, of all places.