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Posted by: Kato

With all this talk of "Attack sites" and BADSITES on WP, and descriptions of The Review getting thrown about on the ARBCOM pages, it seems like a good time to go and examine the Top ten most viewed threads in The Review's back catalogue. Though this thread should probably be in the Wikipedia Review Review section, so as not to disappoint our non-signed up members, this one goes out for free on the top section. Here goes:

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25,838 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=2778 Epic thread started by Daniel Brandt that continued for nearly a year. Tracing the long Essjay saga from mere Brandtian brain wave to The New Yorker magazine and into the history books of the internet itself. Brandt opens the thread with "Who is Essjay? I would love to ID this guy." Some 20,000 or so posts later http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essjay_controversy.
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13,844 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=14011 Durova, wikipedia's self styled "sleuth", comes predictably unstuck when it is discovered that her much cherished "sleuthing methods" are little more than a paranoia fuelled game of Shot-in-the-dark. Convinced that The Review has unleashed a co-ordinated army of sockpuppets to bring down the site (if only), Durova sets to work unmasking the machiavellian meddlers. Inevitably, her prime suspects turn out not to be grisly trolls, but good faith editors, and one in particular is a well respected editor with connections in high places. Oops. An aroma of rebellion against this unchecked power fills the air only days before WP's annual Christmas Pantomime otherwise known as the Arbitration elections. As the story unfolds, it is also revealed that rather than The Review co-ordinating exploits, a Wikipedia clique had been operating a "secret mailing list" to plot underhand missions and spy on innocent users all along. And all this with Jimbo "we-need-more-love" Wales's approval. Reviewers had been shouting this truth from the rooftops since this site's beginnings of course, but it was refreshing to see the media http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/04/wikipedia_secret_mailing/ that There IS a Cabal. Of course, in a collapsed culture that rewards cronyism, bullying and arbitrary decision making over reason and good practice, this should come as no surprise.

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11,512 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=15438
The Wikipedia Review discover that Wikia, Inc, the for-profit company founded by Jimmy Wales and Angela Beesley, were hosting a Wiki called Spanking Art. This Wiki detailed sexual fetish practices relating to corporal punishment, but also featured numerous sexualized images of children and photographs of minors uploaded in innocence by editors to Wikipedia and the Wiki-Commons.
Our discovery provoked protests against “Spanking Art” on Wikipedia itself. One editor, a representative of the Scouting movement whose uploaded photo of boy scouts had been transported onto the Spanking Sex site without permission, demanded answers on Jimbo Wales’s Wikipedia talk page. Eventually Wales personally deleted material from the Wikia site. Later, the entire Spanking Art site was removed, with an accompanying statement made by a representative of Wikia Inc.

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11,480 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=1116
Bizarre tale of admin Snowspinner, who wrote a short story on his blog - a typically youthful kind of Camus meets Chuck Palahniuk thing about a malevolent stalker - and became embroiled in a http://www.boingboing.net/2006/05/22/u-florida-cops-ask-f.html over an unrelated incident at his campus. The Review gallery (featuring a surprising number of now forgotten figures) revel in Snowspinner's woes, and despite being exonerated by the cops, Snowspinner appears on the thread himself to mud wrestle with some of The Review's less sympathetic literary critics.

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10,092 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=8710 An amalgamation of various threads detailing the activities of the mercurial Merkey. What was the I.T entrepreneur and Cherokee activist Merkey playing at? Was he right? Was he wrong? Was he actually contributing to the thread himself using a pseudonym? Who knows? Enjoy the Merkey mayhem.

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9,644 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=14993
A petition to remove the perennially controversial images of Muhammad from Wikipedia's article on The Prophet gains 1000s of signatures, and becomes a hotly debated topic in Wikiworld. Wikipedia is "the wisdom of the crowds", but what happens when the crowds sign a petition to make a change to an article? "Wikipedia is not censored". What about the stuff that is removed from articles all the time, is that not censorship? "Wikipedia makes changes based on consensus, it is a fundamental tenet". Then seeing as they have a consensus of 1000s, can't they change the article? "Wikipedia is not censored" etc etc etc.

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9,395 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7188 Endless speculation as to the motives and identity of WP's highly evolved Octopus, an editor so prolific that he apparently sprouted tentacles and beak to handle a watchlist that grew to the size of the Pacific. Some of it seems plausible, much of it isn't. The thread ends with our own Lamontstormstar sagely noting, "Someone will just take Jayjg's place." And he is probably right. Somey pays tribute to our tentacled friend on a subsequent http://wikipediareview.com/blog/20070812/should-we-feel-sorry-for-the-jay-man/.
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9,365 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=11180 A comprehensive exposition of the backstory behind SlimVirgin, Wikipedia's most mysterious and (according to the watchers) most corrupt administrator. The evidence trail leads us through what http://www.slate.com/id/2175651/ "Daniel Brandt's matrix". Slate tells its subscribers to "read about how he uncovered a likely MI-5 agent operating on Wikipedia under the alias Slimvirgin. The winding road starts here." Follow that long and winding road yourself and tell us what you think.

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9,345 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=12443
Natural Born Killers Movie Producer Don Murphy roars onto the The Review board like Ollie Reed in a bad mood to denounce WP and several of its teenage editors. All kinds of issues spill out: Notability issues, the young age of WP editors, "stalking" of article subjects, Dan Tobias's mensa score. The Review attempts to salvage some common sense out of WPs irresponsible mess-ups. Very little changes. Bliss provides a http://wikipediareview.com/blog/20070907/don-murphy-another-living-person-who-doesnt-want-a-wikipedia-biography/ on The Review's blog.
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9,025 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=16581
Two years of deceit and simply outrageous corrupt behavior by the Wiki-elite in support of a writer who had been feuding against Overstock.com comes to a head. Furious good faith Wikipedians demand answers from the Arbitration Committee as to how this was allowed to happen. What did the Arbitrators decide to do? They fudged it. Join the post Arbitration seething to share in the anger at the Committee's lack of integrity.

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Threads lurking outside the Top Ten:

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8,852 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=14961
Imagine a process where decisions are made to benefit a project by consensus after a transparent process of open discussion. Wikipedia? Think again. While copy editors and article writers slave under the hot sun of the clumsy Wiki-software to protect their work, the real business is being hammered out in smoke filled Internet Relay Chatrooms controlled by the most aggressive bully boy administrators. Forget about transparency and all that stuff Jimbo tells his audience in Taiwan. Imagine a chat room where police gather to get their stories straight, swap evidence for planting, exchange informers and snitches, plan cover-ups, talk sports and relax after a hard day. Surely no law abiding citizen object to such a private forum? Giano, a prolific article writer does object. And he keeps on objecting. For his troubles, he is sent before the Arbitration Committee to face his Arbitrary show trial. The Review observe the kangaroo court proceedings through the wire fence.

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7,871 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=9546 Brandt's plea for assistance from the The Review faithful to end the stalemate regarding both his own shabby biography and Seth Finkelstein's article. The thread turns into a sockpuppet hunt on the Brandt deletion discussion, with The Review sleuths attempting to identify any potential http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DennyColt sockpuppet stalking horses that may have arrived to railroad the process. The deletion debates also see the appearance of the http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=12794, a classical wikipediot argument which asserts that our two obscure internet figures should be afforded no more privacy than George Bush, Bill Clinton and convicted murderer Manson himself. Despite this typically trite logic, Seth's article is eventually deleted outright. Brandt's becomes part of a "complex merge" that seems like an improvement.

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7,274 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=5849 The Review passes the hat round the bar for names of honest admins. FCYTravis gets a free drink and three cheers. But according to Jonny Cache : "There are only two types of admin. (1) Evil Bastards (2) Good Minions Doing Nothing." In the melee of confused identifications, the term ghoul is coined for the first time to describe the worst of the Wiki Adams-family. And apt it was to be.
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7,188 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7470 No figure on Wikipedia has matched the open animosity and bumbling buffoonery exhibited by Jus-zum-Guy. Read on, as relations between Guy and The Review deteriorate from Love / Hate to simply mutual loathing. On the thread, Wikipedia Review owner Gregory Kohs, long a victim of the increasingly erratic Guy, takes the Englishman to task for his absurd campaign of persecution. At first Reviewers just laugh along with Guy's antics. He had put in good work improving the hideous BLP situation on Wikipedia, surely he wasn't going to.... oh yes, he was. Guy lurches towards delirium and quits WP three times during the thread, only to return to his addiction apparently more rabid each time. He is last spotted running around Wikipedia half naked wearing a bandana and waving his arms hysterically for our benefit. With his judgement in tatters, Reviewers these days http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=13902&view=findpost&p=60100 to his face. Or worse, gleefully egg him on to do more damage to the ailing Pseudopedia than any Reviewer could manage themselves.
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7,106 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=14258 The annual pantomime that is the Arbitration elections gets underway amidst a flurry of scandals. Clueless sleuth Durova is forced to retire even before voting begins. A populist swing to support article writer Giano against traditional bureaucrats and power gamers means he stays in the running. Loathed admins such as POV pusher Will Beback, abusive sockpuppet JoshuaZ, and tyrannical controller Raul are humiliated as voters reject their manifestos in droves. Will the election of a new committee lead to reform? Of course not. It's all about the drama.

* updated April, 2008

Posted by: Alex

Interesting stats! blink.gif

Posted by: thekohser

This was a great roll-up, Kato. Thank you.

(I'm only jealous that none of my threads have made the Top 10. Maybe one of them has hit the Top 30? I'm such a self-promoter.)

Greg

Posted by: blissyu2

Very good, the pictures and bolding helped. Where did you get the stats from? Should be pinned to the top somewhere, or something. Indeed, it'd be interesting to do a top 50 on the blog. We've been about for close to 2 years (it'll be our birthday on November 5th - we think - or perhaps November 4th - we're not quite sure which), so 50 sounds like a large enough number.

You did make a typo in number 10 when you called it an AFD - its an RFA.

Posted by: Jonny Cache


Pretty nifty, probably should go on the blog, but when you get rite down to it, the number of replies is probably a slightly better measure of popular interest than the number of views — as I can almost hear the mad cliquing away of that search-engine-opportunist and shameless auto-promotionist Greg Kohs trying to ↑ his deja views even as we speak.

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Posted by: thekohser

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 24th September 2007, 10:56am) *

Pretty nifty, probably should go on the blog, but when you get rite down to it, the number of replies is probably a slightly better measure of popular interest than the number of views — as I can almost hear the mad cliquing away of that search-engine-opportunist and shameless auto-promotionist Greg Kohs trying to ↑ his deja views even as we speak.

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What? I can't hear you, Jonny, above the din of all my clicking on http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7470&hl= that I happen to like (and which has nearly 3,400 views).

That's got to be in the Top 15, right?

Greg

Posted by: Kato

QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 24th September 2007, 4:22pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 24th September 2007, 10:56am) *

Pretty nifty, probably should go on the blog, but when you get rite down to it, the number of replies is probably a slightly better measure of popular interest than the number of views — as I can almost hear the mad cliquing away of that search-engine-opportunist and shameless auto-promotionist Greg Kohs trying to ↑ his deja views even as we speak.

Jonny cool.gif

What? I can't hear you, Jonny, above the din of all my clicking on http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7470&hl= that I happen to like (and which has nearly 3,400 views).

That's got to be in the Top 15, right?

Greg

I think a few of your posts could go into a 10 threads you have to read before you die list, Greg.

Posted by: blissyu2

Fair call, there also should be a top 10 most replied to WR threads.

Posted by: Kato

QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Mon 24th September 2007, 5:02pm) *

Fair call, there also should be a top 10 most replied to WR threads.

I think the replies are directly related to the views, Bliss. So it'll probably look pretty much the same.

Posted by: GlassBeadGame

QUOTE(Kato @ Mon 24th September 2007, 2:15am) *

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3,941 views http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=7914 Danny quits his day job at the WMF and Cyde takes the opportunity to nominate him for adminship. Chaos ensues as the wiki-public and other peasants use the rfa as an excuse to throw eggs and flour at the WP aristocracy. GBG oversees what is surely one of The Review's more engaging threads. "This is such great entertainment" pipes Karmafist. I'm sure you'll agree.


Gee, I had a lot of fun on that thread. It really increased my interest in our site. I pretended I was Walter Cronkite covering a rigged election.

Posted by: Poetlister

QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Mon 24th September 2007, 3:47pm) *

We've been about for close to 2 years (it'll be our birthday on November 5th - we think - or perhaps November 4th - we're not quite sure which)

This forum began on 19 Feb 2006 when Selina created her account. There was the proboards forum before that but we don't have all the threads from it.

Posted by: the fieryangel

This needs to go on the blog. I think that it proves pretty conclusively how important this place has been, on any number of levels.

Good work, Kato!

Posted by: Jonny Cache

QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Mon 24th September 2007, 10:47am) *

We've been about for close to 2 years (it'll be our birthday on November 5th — we think — or perhaps November 4th — we're not quite sure which), so 50 sounds like a large enough number.


No, yer thinking of Guy Fawkes Day —

Really, there's just getting to be waaaaay too many Guys to keep track of anymore …

Jonny cool.gif

Posted by: Poetlister

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 24th September 2007, 8:56pm) *

Guy Fawkes

I don't suppose he cycled either, or even had an iPod.

Posted by: Jonny Cache

QUOTE(Kato @ Mon 24th September 2007, 12:07pm) *

QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Mon 24th September 2007, 5:02pm) *

Fair call, there also should be a top 10 most replied to WR threads.


I think the replies are directly related to the views, Bliss. So it'll probably look pretty much the same.


I don't think that bears up under examination. For example, the Honest Admins ¤ cough ¤ thread has only 97 replies, several of those created in response to this listing.

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Posted by: GlassBeadGame

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Mon 24th September 2007, 2:18pm) *

QUOTE(Kato @ Mon 24th September 2007, 12:07pm) *

QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Mon 24th September 2007, 5:02pm) *

Fair call, there also should be a top 10 most replied to WR threads.


I think the replies are directly related to the views, Bliss. So it'll probably look pretty much the same.


I don't think that bears up under examination. For example, the Honest Admins ¤ cough ¤ thread has only 97 replies, several of those created in response to this listing.

Jonny cool.gif


Well that is understandable. Admins are by their very nature vain and self involved. Many admins doubtlessly lurk this site but don't post. The thread had great appeal to the admins' vanity.

Posted by: Nathan

I've http://wikipediareview.com/blog/20070924/top-10-most-viewed-wr-threads/, fixing some typos and fixing the font of the numbers so that it doesn't overlap with the post count below it.

I wasn't quite sure what category to add it to, though! I guess it's General Information-like.

Posted by: Jonny Cache

QUOTE(Kato @ Mon 24th September 2007, 4:15am) *

With all this talk of "Attack sites" and BADSITES on WP, and descriptions of The Review getting thrown about on the ARBCOM pages, it seems like a good time to go and examine the Top ten most viewed threads in The Review's back catalogue. Though this thread should probably be in the Wikipedia Review Review section, so as not to disappoint our non-signed up members, this one goes out for free on the top section. Here goes:

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19,719 views Who is Essjay? Epic thread started by Daniel Brandt that continued for nearly a year. Tracing the long Essjay saga from mere Brantian brain wave to The New Yorker magazine and into the history books of the internet itself. Brandt opens the thread with "Who is Essjay? I would love to ID this guy." Some 20,000 or so posts later we were to find out.
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8,991 views Snowspinner muses about stalking and murder. Bizarre tale of admin Snowspinner, who wrote a short story on his blog — a typically youthful kind of Camus meets Chuck Palahniuk thing about a malevolent stalker — and became embroiled in a real life Police investigation over an unrelated incident at his campus. The Review gallery revel in Snowspinner's woes, and despite being exonerated by the cops, Snowspinner appears on the thread himself to mud wrestle with some of The Review's more unsympathetic literary critics.
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Did you not know about the {topic}…{/topic} and {post}…{/post} tags? I fixed the first couple to illustrate.

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Posted by: Nathan

I've often forgotten about those myself.

Posted by: Rochelle

This is kind of depressing. I'm so new that only one (1) of the top ten (10) threads was started when I was a member ("Colscott says hola" - I don't think I ever posted there). It is interesting, though, to see what type of threads get the most views.

Posted by: blissyu2

Actually, if possible, for the blog, could it have a pic for each of the top 10? Or am I being greedy?

Posted by: guy

This list has been updated.

Posted by: the fieryangel

QUOTE(guy @ Tue 4th December 2007, 12:05pm) *

This list has been updated.


It needs to updated again, as the "Boyscout spanking thread" plus the "Images of Mohamed" thread are getting pretty big too...

Posted by: Derktar

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These are a little old but more recent than the tallies above.

NOTE: This does not take into account subforums.

Posted by: Anonymous editor

the Essjay thread is all the way up to 34,214 views now. Pretty impressive.

Posted by: Random832

Is the "Taxwoman a fake" thread the first to break the big 1-K in the total number of replies?

Posted by: gomi

QUOTE(Random832 @ Wed 10th September 2008, 10:11am) *

Is the "Taxwoman a fake" thread the first to break the big 1-K in the total number of replies?

By far. "Essjay" had only 227 posts in it (approximately -- PL's deletions did some damage in many places).

I'm not sure this is a good measure, however -- the PoetRunTaxCornListerWoman thread is waaaay past tl;dr now. 1000 posts may be too many for almost anyone to wade through, and (IMHO) it would have been better if it had been split into multiple threads.

As an aside, we had our highest-ever posting day on 5 Sep with 468 posts, and have had 4 days in the last week with over 400 posts each. This beats the previous record of 460 posts on 14 April (08) and 452 on 21 April, and 404 on 17 July.

Posted by: Kelly Martin

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 12:22pm) *
I'm not sure this is a good measure, however -- the PoetRunTaxCornListerWoman thread is waaaay past tl;dr now. 1000 posts may be too many for almost anyone to wade through, and (IMHO) it would have been better if it had been split into multiple threads.
At least two threads were split out of it, too.

Posted by: the fieryangel

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 10th September 2008, 9:38pm) *

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 12:22pm) *
I'm not sure this is a good measure, however -- the PoetRunTaxCornListerWoman thread is waaaay past tl;dr now. 1000 posts may be too many for almost anyone to wade through, and (IMHO) it would have been better if it had been split into multiple threads.
At least two threads were split out of it, too.


Look: let it be. This needs to be played out. On more levels than one. Do not moderate this, please!

Posted by: Anonymous editor

QUOTE(Random832 @ Wed 10th September 2008, 1:11pm) *

Is the "Taxwoman a fake" thread the first to break the big 1-K in the total number of replies?


http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?act=ST&f=13&t=20175&hl=&view=findpost&p=128115. But since you asked, here's a a views update:

Who is Essjay? 34,623
Taxwoman : a fake? 31,891
Boy Scouts are for spanking? 25,782
Another NYBrad sighting? 24,305
Slimvirgin/Felonious Monk/JzG case 18,937
WMF Board elections, 2008 15,521
A Scientific Dissent from Wikipedianism 15,451
Snowspinner muses about stalking and murder 14,815
Illustration of Muhammad 14,779
Mantanmoreland RfAr 13,349
diets, women, anything really deep and meaningful, ooh 13,310
Cla68 Deathwatch 13,136


Taxwoman will be #1 by Friday.

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 1:22pm) *

QUOTE(Random832 @ Wed 10th September 2008, 10:11am) *

Is the "Taxwoman a fake" thread the first to break the big 1-K in the total number of replies?

By far. "Essjay" had only 227 posts in it (approximately -- PL's deletions did some damage in many places).

I'm not sure this is a good measure, however -- the PoetRunTaxCornListerWoman thread is waaaay past tl;dr now. 1000 posts may be too many for almost anyone to wade through, and (IMHO) it would have been better if it had been split into multiple threads.


Nah, I'll read the whole thing. I'm only up to page 14 or so, but I'll eventually wade through it all.

Posted by: gomi

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 10th September 2008, 2:57pm) *
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 10th September 2008, 9:38pm) *
QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 12:22pm) *
I'm not sure this is a good measure, however -- the PoetRunTaxCornListerWoman thread is waaaay past tl;dr now. 1000 posts may be too many for almost anyone to wade through, and (IMHO) it would have been better if it had been split into multiple threads.
At least two threads were split out of it, too.
Look: let it be. This needs to be played out. On more levels than one. Do not moderate this, please!

Don't worry. If it was going to get moderated, it would have been around page 5. It's much too late now. I read at 50 posts/page, and it is (obviously) now over 20 pages. This is not to say we won't continue to take off-topic threads out of it when they blossom (and assuming a mod is looking).


Posted by: the fieryangel

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 11:05pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 10th September 2008, 2:57pm) *
QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 10th September 2008, 9:38pm) *
QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 12:22pm) *
I'm not sure this is a good measure, however -- the PoetRunTaxCornListerWoman thread is waaaay past tl;dr now. 1000 posts may be too many for almost anyone to wade through, and (IMHO) it would have been better if it had been split into multiple threads.
At least two threads were split out of it, too.
Look: let it be. This needs to be played out. On more levels than one. Do not moderate this, please!

Don't worry. If it was going to get moderated, it would have been around page 5. It's much too late now. I read at 50 posts/page, and it is (obviously) now over 20 pages. This is not to say we won't continue to take off-topic threads out of it when they blossom (and assuming a mod is looking).


Okay. I can see when things get obviously offtopic and that's not a problem. But the discussion of this needs to remain centralized, for numerous reasons.

I'm sorry about my statements last night, which were due to some combat stress....I realize that this isn't easy for any of us. Peace?

Posted by: gomi

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 10th September 2008, 4:08pm) *
I'm sorry about my statements last night, which were due to some combat stress....I realize that this isn't easy for any of us. Peace?

I was never angry, but I'm sorry if anything I did upset you. If I got mad at everyone here who gets mad at me, I couldn't get anything done. On the other hand, I realize that not everyone "compartmentalizes" in the same way, and that ironic distance isn't always the best approach.

Posted by: the fieryangel

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 11:16pm) *

QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Wed 10th September 2008, 4:08pm) *
I'm sorry about my statements last night, which were due to some combat stress....I realize that this isn't easy for any of us. Peace?

I was never angry, but I'm sorry if anything I did upset you. If I got mad at everyone here who gets mad at me, I couldn't get anything done. On the other hand, I realize that not everyone "compartmentalizes" in the same way, and that ironic distance isn't always the best approach.


I'm sorry: even though I speak French most of the time, I can't quite understand if that's a "yes" or a "no": there's much too much subtext there.

Are we going to put this behind us or not?



Posted by: gomi

Yes! Oui! Pax! All is forgiven, if there was anything to forgive, which there may not have been!

Now, if I'm permitted some humor, I'm always amused that when in France I'm told -- with a classic gallic shrug -- "désolée", because the context always makes clear that, while it literally means "Sorry", in truth most of the times it means "I don't give a sh*t that I don't have what you want or will not do what you wish, now get the f*ck out of here". I think they always wonder why I'm stifling a grin. You gotta love a language that expressive.

Posted by: the fieryangel

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 11:25pm) *

Yes! Oui! Pax! All is forgiven, if there was anything to forgive, which there may not have been!

Now, if I'm permitted some humor, I'm always amused that when in France I'm told -- with a classic gallic shrug -- "désolée", because the context always makes clear that, while it literally means "Sorry", in truth most of the times it means "I don't give a sh*t that I don't have what you want or will not do what you wish, now get the f*ck out of here". I think they always wonder why I'm stifling a grin. You gotta love a language that expressive.


That's what "désolé" means when you're a tourist or a client in a shop, since most of the French in those kinds of jobs hate their work. It's always a question of context.

But désolé" is almost always a "cop-out" of some sort. The thing about French is that it's the best language for being at once completely vague so as not to offend, and bitingly sacrastic as to provide effective avenues of attack...

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 10th September 2008, 4:25pm) *

Yes! Oui! Pax! All is forgiven, if there was anything to forgive, which there may not have been!

Now, if I'm permitted some humor, I'm always amused that when in France I'm told -- with a classic gallic shrug -- "désolée", because the context always makes clear that, while it literally means "Sorry", in truth most of the times it means "I don't give a sh*t that I don't have what you want or will not do what you wish, now get the f*ck out of here". I think they always wonder why I'm stifling a grin. You gotta love a language that expressive.

Translation in American English is somwhere between "Bummer" and "Whatever."

Whenever I hear it I think of Beirce's definition: "GUILLOTINE, n. A machine which makes a Frenchman shrug his shoulders with good reason."

Posted by: Anonymous editor

The Taxwoman thread passed Essjay a few hours ago. Now the #1 viewed thread in WR history. Only fitting.

Posted by: Kato

People do realize that the thread-views-counter picks up on readers browsing each page? So if a thread is 50 pages long, and a reader goes through each one, they clock up 50 views on the thread counter. So this Poetguy thread has probably only ever had about 7 people read it, and someone like Milton Roe would've likely clocked up at least 20,000 views just previewing his own posts. It's a false economy - also, some crap that has page upon page of flaming inevitably gets more "views" than some carefully crafted analysis - but that's just the participants reviewing new posts - not a reflection of readers at large.

One way of doing it might be to examine Views Per Page. But I have a feeling that the winner would be... this thread : "The Top Ten Threads" itself. Which would create a certain irony that I quite like.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Kato @ Thu 11th September 2008, 10:01pm) *

People do realize that the thread views counter picks up on readers browsing each page? So if a thread is 50 pages long, and a reader goes through each one, they clock up 50 views on the thread counter. So this Poetguy thread has probably only ever had about 7 people read it, and someone like Milton Roe would've likely clocked up at least 20,000 views just previewing his own posts. It's a false economy - some crap that has page upon page of flaming inevitably gets more "views" than some carefully crafted analysis - but that's just the participants reviewing new posts - not a reflection of readers at large.

Stick in the mud. Of those seven, most of them are PoetGuy, too.

The results are more horrible when I don't preview my posts. Which is often enough.

Posted by: Anonymous editor

QUOTE(Kato @ Fri 12th September 2008, 1:01am) *

People do realize that the thread views counter picks up on readers browsing each page? So if a thread is 50 pages long, and a reader goes through each one, they clock up 50 views on the thread counter.



Yep. There's a bias towards long threads. I don't have it set to a lot of posts per page and I'm cognizant of the fact that my reading the thread is contributing probably around 100 views.

I will say that I think the Taxwoman/Poetguy thread has more unique viewers than any other thread. Bold statement, but that thread has been linked in more places than you might realize.

Posted by: Jon Awbrey

But we'll never close the Auto-Reverence Gap (ARG) with the Wikienlist unless we ban all non-auto-reverent discussions.

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Posted by: Anonymous editor

39,387-34,977 now, in favor of Taxwoman, who finally seems to have lost steam.

Posted by: Anonymous editor

QUOTE(guy @ Tue 4th December 2007, 6:05am) *

This list has been updated.


Poetlister 47,883
Essjay 38,873
Boy Scouts 33,675
Slimvirgin/Felonious Monk/JzG case 28,074
A Scientific Dissent from Wikipedianism 19,028
Illustration of Muhammad 17,066
Snowspinner muses about stalking and murder 16,797
The Jeff Merkey Thread 14,957
Majorly indef blocked 14,322
ColScott and BLP 14,142

Posted by: Anonymous editor

http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=21101&hl=Blacketer joins the party with 15,458 views and counting.

Posted by: Derktar

The most recent, updated count. I included the ranking by replies this time as well.

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Posted by: It's the blimp, Frank

Should this be updated?

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 30th November 2010, 12:17pm) *

Should this be updated?



Yes.

And that black skin for the site is awesome. I just have this weird peach and tan thing. What is up with that? How can I switch over to the badassery?

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Ottava @ Tue 30th November 2010, 10:29am) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 30th November 2010, 12:17pm) *

Should this be updated?



Yes.

And that black skin for the site is awesome. I just have this weird peach and tan thing. What is up with that? How can I switch over to the badassery?

Bleck. Give me peach and tan anytime. Or even plain bookpage black-on-white. Anything on black looks like Elvis and Johnny Cash in the 70's, trying to do Marlin Brando in The Wild One (1953) which is where all that "badass black dressed biker" crap comes from, ultimately.

Posted by: Derktar

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 30th November 2010, 12:17pm) *

Should this be updated?

If I can find some time this week I'll get around to it.

QUOTE(Ottava @ Tue 30th November 2010, 9:29am) *


Yes.

And that black skin for the site is awesome. I just have this weird peach and tan thing. What is up with that? How can I switch over to the badassery?


The skin selector is at the bottom left of the forum next to RSS. The skin you're looking for is Darko.

Posted by: Zoloft

QUOTE(Derktar @ Tue 30th November 2010, 10:36am) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 30th November 2010, 12:17pm) *

Should this be updated?

If I can find some time this week I'll get around to it.

QUOTE(Ottava @ Tue 30th November 2010, 9:29am) *


Yes.

And that black skin for the site is awesome. I just have this weird peach and tan thing. What is up with that? How can I switch over to the badassery?


The skin selector is at the bottom left of the forum next to RSS. The skin you're looking for is Darko.

A plain black and white skin would be nice. Any chance of adding a few skins besides the Green, Brack, and Darko?

Posted by: thekohser

QUOTE(Derktar @ Tue 30th November 2010, 1:36pm) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 30th November 2010, 12:17pm) *

Should this be updated?

If I can find some time this week I'll get around to it.

Please don't bother if there are not at least 10% of the threads shown as being started by me.

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Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 30th November 2010, 4:54pm) *

QUOTE(Derktar @ Tue 30th November 2010, 1:36pm) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 30th November 2010, 12:17pm) *

Should this be updated?

If I can find some time this week I'll get around to it.

Please don't bother if there are not at least 10% of the threads shown as being started by me.

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What if they were started by me? biggrin.gif