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Eva Destruction
post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:09pm
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Three-to-one-on that this argument results in (1) someone being blocked, (2) someone saying "do you know who I am?", (3) someone whining on Jimmy Wales's talkpage and/or (4) a mention in the Register. You heard it here first.
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:16pm
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For laughs, I hope people merely take older (PD) images (hopefully very famous) and merely claim them as a depiction of Mohammad. The less likely the better. By technicality, the Muslims who get angry over it should still be angry as merely labeling someone as the prophet would be enough since we don't actually know what he looks like (and could look like Henry VIII in full royal gown).

By the way, Gatoclass would probably only whine and is not likely to go to Jimbo.
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:24pm
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:16pm) *

By technicality, the Muslims who get angry over it should still be angry as merely labeling someone as the prophet would be enough since we don't actually know what he looks like (and could look like Henry VIII in full royal gown).

Uh - we know exactly what he looked like, since his son-in-law helpfully left a description:
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[Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. He has long hair growing from neck to navel. He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him

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post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:31pm
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* [Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. - Rather vague.
* His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. - Also vague and veriable
* He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. -Any black and white image should accommodate this (and large skull? whatever that means)
* His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. - He has some weight to him, perfect for Henry VIII
* He has long hair growing from neck to navel. - Why would his nephew describe his bare chest? Creeepppyyy.
* He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. - Whatever this means.
* When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him - I doubt we'd depict him walking.


See, not too hard to apply to others.
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:35pm
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Well, at least he doesn't look like a sheeple, a salmon, a centaur, or a killer pooch.
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:41pm
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 5th May 2010, 2:35pm) *

Well, at least he doesn't look like a sheeple, a salmon, a centaur, or a killer pooch.


Sheeples are adorable!
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 2:55pm
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:09pm) *

Three-to-one-on that this argument results in (1) someone being blocked, (2) someone saying "do you know who I am?", (3) someone whining on Jimmy Wales's talkpage and/or (4) a mention in the Register. You heard it here first.

You're probably right. biggrin.gif There is also a fair chance the word "wiki-hounding" might be used at some point in the future, in reference to anyone that disagrees more than once with Cirt. evilgrin.gif

That aside, is it a good hook/article for the main page?
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 3:12pm
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 5th May 2010, 9:16am) *

For laughs, I hope people merely take older (PD) images (hopefully very famous) and merely claim them as a depiction of Mohammad. The less likely the better. By technicality, the Muslims who get angry over it should still be angry as merely labeling someone as the prophet would be enough since we don't actually know what he looks like (and could look like Henry VIII in full royal gown).

By the way, Gatoclass would probably only whine and is not likely to go to Jimbo.


For laughs you want to use Free Kulture to give offense, spread ill will and intolerance. Sounds about right both for you and Free Kulture.
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:55pm) *

That aside, is it a good hook/article for the main page?

No; quite aside from the recentism problem—in six weeks time, nobody will care about this event—it's just plain boring. A "did you know" section ought to at least pay lip service to the idea of "wow, I didn't know that!", not "of course I didn't know that because nobody except those directly involved gives two fucks".
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 3:48pm
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Sounds to me that in reality the big M is in a witness protection program.
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 4:26pm
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Ah, the obsequious thanks. I guess that's how you make friends and allies in Wikiland.

Let's see if this will develop into full-fledged persecution of Gatoclass. popcorn.gif
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 5:14pm
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 7:24am) *
Uh - we know exactly what he looked like, since his son-in-law helpfully left a description:
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[Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. He has long hair growing from neck to navel. He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him

That sounds just like this guy:
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post Wed 5th May 2010, 5:18pm
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QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 5th May 2010, 5:14pm) *

QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 7:24am) *
Uh - we know exactly what he looked like, since his son-in-law helpfully left a description:
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[Muhammad] is neither too short nor too tall. His hair is neither curly nor straight, but a mixture of the two. He is a man of black hair and large skull. His complexion has a tinge of redness. His shoulder bones are broad and his palms and feet are fleshy. He has long hair growing from neck to navel. He has long eye-lashes, close eye-brows, smooth and shining fore-head and a long space between his shoulders. When he walks he walks inclining as if coming down from a height. I never saw a man like him before him or after him

That sounds just like this guy:



OMG! Infidel!
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post Thu 6th May 2010, 12:35am
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QUOTE(HRIP7 @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:55pm) *

QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 5th May 2010, 3:09pm) *

Three-to-one-on that this argument results in (1) someone being blocked, (2) someone saying "do you know who I am?", (3) someone whining on Jimmy Wales's talkpage and/or (4) a mention in the Register. You heard it here first.

You're probably right. biggrin.gif There is also a fair chance the word "wiki-hounding" might be used at some point in the future, in reference to anyone that disagrees more than once with Cirt. evilgrin.gif

Bingo.
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post Thu 6th May 2010, 2:07am
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 5th May 2010, 2:16pm) *

For laughs, I hope people merely take older (PD) images (hopefully very famous) and merely claim them as a depiction of Mohammad.


Muhammad, at age 12, naked:

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Oh shit. Now Larry Sanger's going to report me to the FBI!
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QUOTE(anthony @ Thu 6th May 2010, 2:07am) *

Oh shit. Now Larry Sanger's going to report me to the FBI!


Oh! Two for the price of one. Nice. : D Quick, upload it to Commons!

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post Thu 6th May 2010, 4:19am
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 5th May 2010, 7:41am) *

Sheeples are adorable!

Not as adorable as peepshi.
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 6th May 2010, 4:19am) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 5th May 2010, 7:41am) *

Sheeples are adorable!

Not as adorable as peepshi.


OMG. That needs to have an article page.
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All religion is superstitious nonsense.

If an individual wants to believe it, it's his/her own business; however, when people try to censor or restrict others on the grounds of their particular brand of superstition, they become oppressors.
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I would go farther than Dan, to point out that religions are not the only variety of belief systems that people adopt on faith, without regard for the diligent epistemology that would confirm or refute the scientific accuracy of the beliefs in question.

It is often noted, for example, that Wikipedia is a cult which is not exactly a religion, but neither is it a well-grounded system of beliefs (or philosophical principles) and associated derivative practices.

The anachronistic and dysfunctional governance model of Wikipedia is a notable example of a failed system of beliefs and derivative practices.
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