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post Sat 7th January 2012, 8:02pm
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Black Sun (occult symbol) contains discussion of an image which is alleged to be "illegal to print or display this symbol in Germany today" (namely the logo of the Thule Society, although there is dispute about whether or not this particular rendering is the actual logo). What good would it be to say that about the image without showing it, so it is helpfully shown right beside that text...
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post Sat 7th January 2012, 10:23pm
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 7th January 2012, 3:02pm) *

"illegal to print or display this symbol in Germany today"


Is it also illegal to view the image? If not, then the title of this thread ("Just don't look...") is misleading.
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post Sat 7th January 2012, 11:15pm
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 7th January 2012, 10:23pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 7th January 2012, 3:02pm) *

"illegal to print or display this symbol in Germany today"


Is it also illegal to view the image? If not, then the title of this thread ("Just don't look...") is misleading.

I have no idea whether or not it is illegal to view the image. That might have something to do with whatever "display" means in that context. I have made no effort to verify the claim that there is anything illegal about the image. This is the Wikipedia Annex, after all...

I can't see how the thread's title is misleading, it's an exhortation not to look at something - what position am I expressing?
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post Sun 8th January 2012, 11:00am
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QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 7th January 2012, 8:02pm) *

Black Sun (occult symbol) contains discussion of an image which is alleged to be "illegal to print or display this symbol in Germany today" (namely the logo of the Thule Society, although there is dispute about whether or not this particular rendering is the actual logo). What good would it be to say that about the image without showing it, so it is helpfully shown right beside that text...

As I read the article, it is only reporting that one author says it is illegal. I find such a claim most surprising and will contact a colleague in Germany for her opinion. I suspect that the author of the article does not quite believe it either, or he would have made the claim more prominent. But maybe he was just trying to avoid WP:UNDUE.

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post Mon 9th January 2012, 6:08pm
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As the Wikimedia servers are in the US, Germany can not do anything about the image. In addition, it is for the purpose of "education", thus exempt from the whole German censorship of their dark past.
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post Tue 10th January 2012, 3:21am
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QUOTE(that one guy @ Mon 9th January 2012, 6:08pm) *

As the Wikimedia servers are in the US, Germany can not do anything about the image. In addition, it is for the purpose of "education", thus exempt from the whole German censorship of their dark past.

Some might assume that the reason for censoring such things is not to hide the dark past, but to discourage those who wish to glorify it. Just sayin'...
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post Tue 10th January 2012, 4:08am
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Sun 8th January 2012, 10:00pm) *

QUOTE(carbuncle @ Sat 7th January 2012, 8:02pm) *

Black Sun (occult symbol) contains discussion of an image which is alleged to be "illegal to print or display this symbol in Germany today" (namely the logo of the Thule Society, although there is dispute about whether or not this particular rendering is the actual logo). What good would it be to say that about the image without showing it, so it is helpfully shown right beside that text...

As I read the article, it is only reporting that one author says it is illegal. I find such a claim most surprising and will contact a colleague in Germany for her opinion. I suspect that the author of the article does not quite believe it either, or he would have made the claim more prominent. But maybe he was just trying to avoid WP:UNDUE.

From the information provided in the article, that author would appear to be a conspiracy theory nut. If my modest collection of crank literature is any guide, whatever such an individual says in relation to his particular obsession is just as likely as not to be complete poppycock.

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QUOTE(lonza leggiera @ Tue 10th January 2012, 4:08am) *

From the information provided in the article, that author would appear to be a conspiracy theory nut. If my modest collection of crank literature is any guide, whatever such individual says in relation to to his particular obsession is just as likely as not to be complete poppycock.

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