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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Thu 8th September 2011, 7:48pm) QUOTE(-DS- @ Thu 8th September 2011, 11:27am) QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Tue 6th September 2011, 12:24am) It looks like a "Cirt desysopped" remedy is not out of the question. At the moment, it's five for and five against, so it still has a fighting chance. Now 6 in favor and 5 against, which if I understand it correctly means it passed. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) Looks like I might have to eat my shorts. Very unexpected indeed, if these votes stay as they are for the next few hours before the case closes. Cirt has made a direct appeal to the arbs to reconsider the remedy. Maybe his approach of not defending himself wasn't all he (or onlookers like myself) thought it would be. Though I think it was the best option he had. The last thing he wanted was for people to dig deeper for evidence, and to make even stronger arguments because he was defending himself. I wont be completely convinced that he is losing his adminship until I see it finalized. This post has been edited by Jagärdu:
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"The other remedies are preventative and send me a very strong message. I will follow policy. — Cirt "
"What I would very much like to know is why you did not follow policy before?" Roger Davies
"I simply do not trust you to follow policy, and I cannot support giving the tools to those whom I do not trust." The Cavalry
"If your editing was proper, or perhaps included a few excusable mistakes, you should have defended yourself or asked to be excused. If your editing was seriously improper, then you must resign as administrator. This will be the very best thing you can do for your reputation." Jehochman
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Fri 9th September 2011, 3:28pm) QUOTE(Beer me @ Fri 9th September 2011, 10:47am) Choice quotes
"The other remedies are preventative and send me a very strong message. I will follow policy. — Cirt "
"What I would very much like to know is why you did not follow policy before?" Roger Davies
"I simply do not trust you to follow policy, and I cannot support giving the tools to those whom I do not trust." The Cavalry
"If your editing was proper, or perhaps included a few excusable mistakes, you should have defended yourself or asked to be excused. If your editing was seriously improper, then you must resign as administrator. This will be the very best thing you can do for your reputation." Jehochman
I imagine there's probably a last minute charm offensive going out over email and IRC as well. Roger Davies's comment pretty much sums it all up for me. Cirt is appealing to Hershfold for more time as well. I think the fact that this is passing has caught him entirely by surprise. I imagine that he's not all that concerned about the other remedies and findings and was thinking he'd be sliding by without losing adminship, until Hershfold updated the score after Elen pointed out that she was recusing and the remedy went from not passing to passing. Now he looks downright silly finally coming to the table at the 11th hour. Surely he might have stated his objections as soon as the remedy was proposed. Had he not been so sure of himself he might have done so. Were I the arbs, or the clerk, I would not grant him any extra time given that he only bothered to object when he found himself surprisingly losing a battle he thought he could win by simply staying silent.
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QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sat 10th September 2011, 2:15am) QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 9th September 2011, 11:40pm) QUOTE(tarantino @ Fri 9th September 2011, 7:52pm) And gone. That was fast (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) Cue the handwringing. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif) One schmuck punishes another schmuck, and a bunch of other schmucks stands around moaning. Big deal. One schmuck down, plenty more schmucks to go. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif) (Do you realize that the number of RFAs per month is now the lowest that Wikipedia has ever seen? It's even lower than back in 2002, when every one of them was approved by Wales himself.)
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Sat 10th September 2011, 6:55am) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Sat 10th September 2011, 4:25am) (Do you realize that the number of RFAs per month is now the lowest that Wikipedia has ever seen? It's even lower than back in 2002, when every one of them was approved by Wales himself.) Yet more evidence that Wikipedia is dying. No wonder they're all running around trying to drum up participation. Yes, and they're trying to make the statistics lie--by generating stubs using bots. Blofeld is on another of his insane stub-benders, this time of German geographical features. Trust me, most of these stubs will never be expanded. They're fooling the donors. And the donors are swallowing it whole.
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