Meta-Thread On Fascism, The Essence Of Injustice Options

[Jonny Cache]

Resource Thread

I will use this thread to collect previous posts and relevant resources on Fascism and its kindred species of Polis State Kraft.

Jon Awbrey

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AB,

Can you tell me what made you think of physical violence in connection with the topic of this thread?

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[AB]

AB,

Can you tell me what made you think of physical violence in connection with the topic of this thread?

Jonny B)

Fascism can sometimes involve physical violence / threats of
physical violence. Physical violence / threats of physical
violence are typically unjust, excluding specific circumstances
discussed by Nathan and I.

And then there was Saltimbanco thinking that the good of
'The Project' should come before the good of individual human
beings. The same argument, taken to extremes, could be
used to justify threats of physical violence.


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[Jonny Cache]

AB,

Can you tell me what made you think of physical violence in connection with the topic of this thread?

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Fascism can sometimes involve physical violence / threats of physical violence. Physical violence / threats of physical violence are typically unjust, excluding specific circumstances discussed by Nathan and I.

And then there was Saltimbanco thinking that the good of 'The Project' should come before the good of individual human beings. The same argument, taken to extremes, could be used to justify threats of physical violence.

Okay, that makes sense.

But I doubt if Saltimbanco was advocating physical violence, or even ethical violence, on behalf of any publication project, no matter how noble. Most likely he/she was simply reminding us of the "Not For Thy Own Self" aspects of any collective project.

But you are Wise to remember that Programmes Of Violence to Words and Images often Pre-Seed Programmes Of Violence via the media of Sticks & Stones, as the saying goes.

Which reminds me, did you see Freedom Writers?

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[AB]

But I doubt if Saltimbanco was advocating physical violence, or even ethical violence, on behalf of any publication project, no matter how noble. Most likely he/she was simply reminding us of the "Not For Thy Own Self" aspects of any collective project.

Indeed, what Saltimbanco said and what Saltimbanco meant
may not be the same. There are many people who have
philosophies that even they do not believe apply in all
circumstances.

However, there are circumstances where individuals should
absolutely, without doubt, come ahead of 'The Project'.
Defamation and threats of physical violence are examples.
And, once you've made exceptions for those, aren't you
saying that individuals are indeed more important than 'The
Project'? If 'The Project' claims to be a charity, isn't it
supposed to be about helping people, not hurting people?

Besides, I'm really flaming AW, not Saltimbanco.

But you are Wise to remember that Programmes Of Violence to Words and Images often Pre-Seed Programmes Of Violence via the media of Sticks & Stones, as the saying goes.

Nothing stopping anyone from doing both at the same time,
for example, threatening violence if material is not censored.

Which reminds me, did you see Freedom Writers?

Jonny B)

No, I don't watch films that often.