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In case you were wondering why Rachel Marsden got such special treatment on Wikipedia the secret is now out in the Valleywag. They also link here too! QUOTE Jimmy Wales loves to talk about "transparency" and "a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge." Unless it's about his scandal-prone girlfriend. Wales, who is divorcing his second wife Christine, has been secretly seeing conservative TV commentator Rachel Marsden since last fall, friends say.
And something for JzG: a steamy chat log is included. QUOTE(seanpercival @ 3:24 PM) These chats turned my "stub" into a full wiki page
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QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Sat 1st March 2008, 2:08am) Meanwhile, abusive sockpuppeteer JoshuaZ - who previously used his secret account to help keep Marsden's BLP - fights the Jimbo corner to keep this new tale off WP as long as possible. Rachel Marsden will fail to keep these rumors out of the article. Then she'll want to blame someone for it and wonder " which goddam idiot created an "encyclopedia" which acts as resume at the top of every internet search, but which any clown anywhere can use to propagate any rumor or opinion about me". Here is the idiot she seeks: (IMG: http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb311/Kato90125/jimbocake.jpg)
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QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Fri 29th February 2008, 9:08pm) Meanwhile, abusive sockpuppeteer JoshuaZ - who previously used his secret account to help keep Marsden's BLP - fights the Jimbo corner to keep this new tale off WP as long as possible. And they will keep it off Jimbo's Talk page, too. I'll check in with my friend Jimbo on Facebook and see if any of it has even a grain of truth. Greg
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QUOTE(Robster @ Fri 29th February 2008, 7:05pm) There isn't the slightest chance that stuff is legit.
Is there?
All I can tell you is that if they weren't, Jimbo would own Valleywag, the homes of each of its contributors, and the homes of their children, too. The only way any publisher would consider running something like those transcripts is if they were certain that they (the transcripts) were legitimate. Also, I have it on good authority that there's more to come...not necessarily chat transcripts, but other "evidences" of Jimbo's dalliances.
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sat 1st March 2008, 7:17pm) I see there is now a thread on Wales' page, started by Cla68, mentioning that Wales supposedly commented on the sooper seekrit mailing list that he: "felt unable, because of COI reasons, to participate in the BLP of certain Canadian journalist" Why should we believe that JzG and JoshuaZ did not merely act as his proxies in fixing the article according to Wales/Marsden's preference? It is almost certain that JzG was under orders from Wales as outlined here: QUOTE(ValleyWag) Most recently, a tipster tells us, Wales "sent a mass email to a 'special' Wikipedia list of admins at the beginning of February, right before he was set to spend the weekend with Marsden in DC. Said he wanted her page cleaned up. http://valleywag.com/362511/how-wikipedia-...immy-wales-laidHere's the type of thing JzG was doing early February: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=189783275This ties into the JzG / Jimbo Wales relationship. Where Jimbo is using a willing JzG, a man who seems on the edge of a complete breakdown, to act as a fixer / bully on content. Anyone can tell that JzG has lost the plot completely -- surely even Wales -- but as I've stated elsewhere, Wales doesn't seem to care about that as long as JzG is doing the dirty work. As JzG says : You're either with his friend Mr. Wales or with the enemy http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=176590424
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(IMG: http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/pics/movies/casablanca-louis-clauderains.jpg) I don't understand why everyone is so SHOCKED, SHOCKED that he cheats on his wife, cheats with a journalist, or even (heaven forfend!) sends sexy chat msgs. He was a porn dealer for God's sake. And if those listserver msgs are correct, he was more or less bragging about his affair, so he's probably not all that upset it is public. Hey, if it eclipses his bad Wikia press, it's gotta be good news... (with regrets for his poor wife. I hope she gets a decent settlement, and he doesn't rip her off)Anyways, why would this render him liable to removal? I'm thinking the lost funds might be grounds (gold washingmachine? Go Florence!). But even then, I doubt it. This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey:
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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sat 1st March 2008, 7:37pm) (IMG: http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/pics/movies/casablanca-louis-clauderains.jpg) I don't understand why everyone is so SHOCKED, SHOCKED that he cheats on his wife, cheats with a journalist, or even (heaven forfend!) sends sexy chat msgs. He was a porn dealer for God's sake. And if those listserver msgs are correct, he was more or less bragging about his affair, so he's probably not all that upset it is public. Hey, if it eclipses his bad Wikia press, it's gotta be good news... (with regrets for his poor wife. I hope she gets a decent settlement, and he doesn't rip her off)Anyways, why would this render him liable to removal? I'm thinking the lost funds might be grounds (gold washingmachine? Go Florence!). But even then, I doubt it. He has to go because he can't be trusted not to intervene, or to get others to do so for him in biographies of people with whom he is connected.
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QUOTE(Rootology @ Sat 1st March 2008, 3:44pm) QUOTE(Kato @ Sat 1st March 2008, 12:13pm) And as Danny Wool notes all this gallivanting meant that "At one point he owed the Foundation some $30,000 in receipts, and this while we were preparing for the audit." Meaning a... MISUSE OF FOUNDATION FUNDS?Danny best be careful and back this up with evidence. It's borderline libel territory, if untrue. If true... well, shit. Bye-bye contributions, bye-bye Wikipedia. I'm going to be surprised if Jimbo doesn't go around trying to sue the shit out of everybody. He's been a little "legal threat happy", recently, from what I hear. He's probably been anticipating this coming out and what he may do--maybe this was foreshadowing things to come. How would it effect the project if Jimbo goes on a "sue the shit out of everybody" campaign? I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but it's fun to speculate. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(Kato @ Sat 1st March 2008, 3:48pm) QUOTE(Danny Wool) So Jimbeau cancelled an upcoming trip to Italy, Serbia, and Croatia, and got to work finding receipts. I helped process them. Subway ticket in Moscow: $0.50. Massage parlor in Moscow: priceless. Some were accepted; others were not, like the $650 spent on two bottles of wine during a dinner for four at Bern's—I remember that one because he submitted it twice, once with the tip scratched out. I wonder if the students who gave up their lunch money to donate to Wikipedia would have approved of that expense. In the end he reached a deal with Brad—details unknown—and paid the Foundation about $7000 in two checks. I don't know what happened with the rest, but the checks can be found in the list of donors. http://allswool.blogspot.com/HOly cow...This story has legs. And coming out at such an time in the community, when it is more divided over Wikipedia's direction than it has ever been!
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QUOTE(badlydrawnjeff @ Sat 1st March 2008, 9:37pm) I wouldn't be shocked if it's true that he had any sort of dealings with Marsden - while "juicy," that's not the issue.
The issue is that Marsden got preferential - and quite possibly unfair, given my suspicions about the ArbCom case and her alleged relationship - treatment due to her, no pun intended, position. No, read the first paragraph on the transcript page. Not the transcript itself, just the introductory paragraph. I don't want to quote it since if it's not true, it's really defamatory. But, if it is true, anything done on WP is a side issue, and I really hope someone is helping RM out. This post has been edited by AB:
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sat 1st March 2008, 3:48pm) QUOTE(Danny Wool) So Jimbeau cancelled an upcoming trip to Italy, Serbia, and Croatia, and got to work finding receipts. I helped process them. Subway ticket in Moscow: $0.50. Massage parlor in Moscow: priceless. Some were accepted; others were not, like the $650 spent on two bottles of wine during a dinner for four at Bern's—I remember that one because he submitted it twice, once with the tip scratched out. I wonder if the students who gave up their lunch money to donate to Wikipedia would have approved of that expense. In the end he reached a deal with Brad—details unknown—and paid the Foundation about $7000 in two checks. I don't know what happened with the rest, but the checks can be found in the list of donors. http://allswool.blogspot.com/Mr. Wales is a rich guy, right? Doesn't that mean no advance would be appropriate. Incur the expense, present the receipts, get reimbursed. He's not Florence for Christsake. By the way two checks? As in payment plan? I wonder if either he or WMF treated the payments as "donations" as Wool seems to suggest. That would be inappropriate on either/both ends.
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