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Nathan
post Sat 28th July 2007, 4:23am
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I like it too...
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post Sat 28th July 2007, 4:50am
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how could you possibly think that blackmailing admins into unblocking you, of all things, would do anything but make the situation much, much worse?


Come, come. I think you dont understand the story. Mr. Brandt was essentially held hostage as an unwilling BLP. There was an(other, 16th) AFD battle, and it resulted in a weird merge. Then the history files went back up, as did all the AFD histories. Since they republished the history files, it is as worse as it can get for him.

I always felt that keeping his name up there was blackmail. Funny you'd accuse him of that for pressuring them with payback for tormenting him.

I have a hunch that SV and D made DB an offer: your article for our names. I thought that it was odd how SV and D tag-teamed on that AFD, and now it all makes sense. They bought him off. Now they are accusing him of coercion and blackmail. This is so like the victim game both of them play, and it is dirty and hypocritical.

His history files were reposted after the AFD. which violated the deal. He warned them to do something, and Durova threw a hissy fit and put him on ANI (acting as if she never had a clue there was a deal. Sure.)

If they wanted their part of the bargain (that I'm thinking they cooked up) then they should have held theirs.

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post Sat 28th July 2007, 10:26pm
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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Fri 27th July 2007, 10:50pm) *

QUOTE(Krimpet @ Fri 27th July 2007, 2:50pm) *

how could you possibly think that blackmailing admins into unblocking you, of all things, would do anything but make the situation much, much worse?


Come, come. I think you dont understand the story. Mr. Brandt was essentially held hostage as an unwilling BLP. There was an(other, 16th) AFD battle, and it resulted in a weird merge. Then the history files went back up, as did all the AFD histories. Since they republished the history files, it is as worse as it can get for him.

I always felt that keeping his name up there was blackmail. Funny you'd accuse him of that for pressuring them with payback for tormenting him.

I have a hunch that SV and D made DB an offer: your article for our names. I thought that it was odd how SV and D tag-teamed on that AFD, and now it all makes sense. They bought him off. Now they are accusing him of coercion and blackmail. This is so like the victim game both of them play, and it is dirty and hypocritical.

His history files were reposted after the AFD. which violated the deal. He warned them to do something, and Durova threw a hissy fit and put him on ANI (acting as if she never had a clue there was a deal. Sure.)

If they wanted their part of the bargain (that I'm thinking they cooked up) then they should have held theirs.



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post Sat 28th July 2007, 10:53pm
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Ironic.
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post Sat 28th July 2007, 11:20pm
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I think a bunch of people should join together in a class action lawsuit on Wikipedia.
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post Tue 31st July 2007, 1:35am
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Jimbo Wales who had unblocked Daniel Brandt prior, has endorsed the reblocking

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=147557211
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post Tue 31st July 2007, 1:46am
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That's been posted before in another thread, if I recall correctly.
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This block is rediculous. It is rediculous of the stupid cabal to disrespect Mr. Brandt in this way, because he requested the removal of his libelous biography, to block him. The cabal should so be sued for this. Mister Brandt, you are admirable and very respectable. In a case like yours, the deletion shouldn't have been filibustered (15 times) because you requested deletion yourself. Blame Jimbo. Leninist Jimbo. I admire you, Mr. Brandt. biggrin.gif
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 1:47am
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The talk page to the WP Daniel Brandt article has been restored by Bryan Derksen. Presumably a result of the latest SV shenanigans.
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 2:53am
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QUOTE(Kato @ Thu 2nd August 2007, 7:47pm) *

The talk page to the WP Daniel Brandt article has been restored by Bryan Derksen. Presumably a result of the latest SV shenanigans.

I fixed it. biggrin.gif

From July 15th to July 27th, I made no posts to this Board. I began losing interest in Wikipedia too, except to make sure no one was trying to weasel into the Public Information Research stub. Then I found out from this thread that I was blocked again, and Durova read my comment, and another round of silliness started on ANI. The Ohmynews article came out the same time, and got Slashdotted. I had just put Durova and SlimVirgin back on hivemind.

Now look where I am. I got re-hooked and have to start my Wikipedia withdrawal all over again. No wonder I cannot get anything productive done these days. Wikipedia just isn't smart enough to know when to leave me alone.
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 3:00am
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How long will it be before Daniel's IP is blocked and his blanking reverted?

It is sad to think that you might be fighting Wikipedia to your very death... and even afterwards as you won't be even marginally protected by the BLP policy after you die. sad.gif

Makes you not want to do anything notable as WP might libel you even after you die. blink.gif
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 3:23am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Thu 2nd August 2007, 9:00pm) *

It is sad to think that you might be fighting Wikipedia to your very death... and even afterwards as you won't be even marginally protected by the BLP policy after you die. sad.gif


When I was a kid I brought a new aspect to playing Monopoly with my siblings. Insurance. For $200-$1,000, depending on board development and the players position when purchasing the "policy," I'd cover a player as they passed those pricey green and blue lots. Maybe I sense an opportunity again. A person could, either while living or through their estate, purchase best efforts for monitoring/editing their Wikipedia article. Clean up vandalism and fend of nasty POV Pushers. MyWikiGraveYard.com. What do you think Greg?
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 4:21am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 3rd August 2007, 4:00am) *

How long will it be before Daniel's IP is blocked and his blanking reverted?

It is sad to think that you might be fighting Wikipedia to your very death... and even afterwards as you won't be even marginally protected by the BLP policy after you die. sad.gif

Makes you not want to do anything notable as WP might libel you even after you die. blink.gif


I think Daniel should relax after he dies and not worry so much about Wikipedia, personally.
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 4:31am
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QUOTE(everyking @ Fri 3rd August 2007, 12:21am) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 3rd August 2007, 4:00am) *

How long will it be before Daniel's IP is blocked and his blanking reverted?

It is sad to think that you might be fighting Wikipedia to your very death... and even afterwards as you won't be even marginally protected by the BLP policy after you die. sad.gif

Makes you not want to do anything notable as WP might libel you even after you die. blink.gif


I think Daniel should relax after he dies and not worry so much about Wikipedia, personally.


In many cultures, offending the dead is often worse than offending the living. His estate could sue, I suppose (particularly if they can conclude that WP played a part in his death).

Whether the dead can sue Wikipedia, edit WP, or become an administrator on WP I think might be worthy of another forum topic, but probably not here. The topic is rather morbid.

Brandt's ghost will haunt Jimbo and maybe others if the ghost is so inclined.
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post Fri 3rd August 2007, 3:34pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Thu 2nd August 2007, 11:23pm) *

Maybe I sense an opportunity again. A person could, either while living or through their estate, purchase best efforts for monitoring/editing their Wikipedia article. Clean up vandalism and fend of nasty POV Pushers. MyWikiGraveYard.com. What do you think Greg?

Jimbo and his racketeering crew would have it shut down in weeks. You're not allowed to make money off of activity on Wikipedia, unless your company starts with the letters WI, and ends with the letters KIA.

Greg

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post Sat 4th August 2007, 2:39am
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At least Daniel Brandt isn't back on the List of Banned users again, although they did ban the person who removed him.
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post Sat 4th August 2007, 2:57pm
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Thu 2nd August 2007, 10:00pm) *

How long will it be before Daniel's IP is blocked and his blanking reverted?

It is sad to think that you might be fighting Wikipedia to your very death... and even afterwards as you won't be even marginally protected by the BLP policy after you die. sad.gif

Makes you not want to do anything notable as WP might libel you even after you die. blink.gif

I wouldn't be counting on WP surviving Daniel Brandt. Besides, Daniel isn't that old.
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